Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Will Obama Decrim/legalize marijuana? Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]sykexl[/m] at 9:50 pm on Nov. 7, 2008[quote]Quote: from [m]telomere13[/m] at 6:12 pm on Nov. 7, 2008[quote]Quote: from [m]sykexl[/m] at 6:04 pm on Nov. 7, 2008[quote]Why would I bother explaining myself to someone who the first thing they do is imply I don't know what I'm talking about and not even bothering asking to explain myself? I feel fine with telling you are wrong and leaving it at that. I'm not here to convince you of anything. Sorry I'm not that interested in changing people's beliefs on any given subject. I'm just interested in stating mine.[/quote]   I was going to refute you with a reasoned argument, but since you apparently have so little respect for evidence that you don't even use it yourself, I'll just tell you that it is, in fact, you who is wrong.   Many people [i]die[/i] from addiction to alcohol.  Alcohol is addictive in a literal, physical, sense.  Not only are there withdrawal symptoms, but you can die from alcohol withdrawal [i]alone[/i].   Marijuana, on the other hand, is significantly less physically addictive than, say, chocolate.  And it is impossible to die from marijuana withdrawal [i]or[/i] an overdose of marijuana.[/quote] Feel better now? You are still wrong you know, but whatever. I'm also interested in how you would refute me given I gave no argument. [/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post Juggalotus Posted at 5:16 am on Nov. 5, 2008 So what do yall think will Obama try to decriminalize or legalize marijuana? I highly doubt that he will but hey I can always hope. EDIT: adding a video to show his view.

Replies Windrunner Posted at 8:51 am on Nov. 12, 2008 I didn't read through all 5 pages so i don't know if this has been said yet but....Obama will not decriminalize marijuana because he can't.  The president can't just decriminalize something he doesn't like.  The presidents job is to enforce the law.  He could maybe make people stop enforcing the law, but to decriminalize/legalize marijuana the congressional branch of the government would have to act. empathyisdead Posted at 7:31 pm on Nov. 11, 2008 Look, just because you have finally voted in a left-leaning (in context to American politics, in global political compasses he isn't even that left) president instead of a socially authoritarian nutjob for once doesn't mean that America is going to turn into an economically socialist country with libertarian social policies whilst retaining and massively improving it's democratic system. Unfortunately. fallenhero Posted at 7:53 am on Nov. 10, 2008 http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_health.shtml * Every individual reacts differently to every substance. Use of marijuana is relatively safe. There are no confirmed deaths caused by marijuana alone. sykexl Posted at 9:52 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from hokie at 7:37 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from Bazly at 9:28 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Obviously sykexl is simply misinformed, there is no need to attack him because he hasn't fully researched the topic. There is perfect reason to (even though I'd argue it isn't "attacking). Do you know why? He's acting like he does know and is being close-minded. He's just simply being proven wrong. That's all it is. You guys are funny. sykexl Posted at 9:50 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from telomere13 at 6:12 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from sykexl at 6:04 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Why would I bother explaining myself to someone who the first thing they do is imply I don't know what I'm talking about and not even bothering asking to explain myself? I feel fine with telling you are wrong and leaving it at that. I'm not here to convince you of anything. Sorry I'm not that interested in changing people's beliefs on any given subject. I'm just interested in stating mine.   I was going to refute you with a reasoned argument, but since you apparently have so little respect for evidence that you don't even use it yourself, I'll just tell you that it is, in fact, you who is wrong.   Many people die from addiction to alcohol.  Alcohol is addictive in a literal, physical, sense.  Not only are there withdrawal symptoms, but you can die from alcohol withdrawal alone.   Marijuana, on the other hand, is significantly less physically addictive than, say, chocolate.  And it is impossible to die from marijuana withdrawal or an overdose of marijuana. Feel better now? You are still wrong you know, but whatever. I'm also interested in how you would refute me given I gave no argument. MushroomSatsujin Posted at 9:44 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from Bazly at 6:28 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Obviously sykexl is simply misinformed, there is no need to attack him because he hasn't fully researched the topic. I wouldnt say that, due to the fact that he hasnt made an argument yet. MushroomSatsujin Posted at 9:42 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from sykexl at 3:04 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 1:07 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 It would help to explain yourself instead of repeating that Im wrong over and over. Why would I bother explaining myself to someone who the first thing they do is imply I don't know what I'm talking about and not even bothering asking to explain myself? I feel fine with telling you are wrong and leaving it at that. I'm not here to convince you of anything. Sorry I'm not that interested in changing people's beliefs on any given subject. I'm just interested in stating mine. Fine with me. But it would help actually stating your opinion. Thats why I assumed you knew nothing because all you did was say that I was wrong. You didnt even specify what I was wrong about. So how am I to take you seriously? hokie Posted at 7:37 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from Bazly at 9:28 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Obviously sykexl is simply misinformed, there is no need to attack him because he hasn't fully researched the topic. There is perfect reason to (even though I'd argue it isn't "attacking). Do you know why? He's acting like he does know and is being close-minded. He's just simply being proven wrong. That's all it is. Bazly Posted at 6:28 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Obviously sykexl is simply misinformed, there is no need to attack him because he hasn't fully researched the topic. telomere13 Posted at 6:12 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from sykexl at 6:04 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Why would I bother explaining myself to someone who the first thing they do is imply I don't know what I'm talking about and not even bothering asking to explain myself? I feel fine with telling you are wrong and leaving it at that. I'm not here to convince you of anything. Sorry I'm not that interested in changing people's beliefs on any given subject. I'm just interested in stating mine. I was going to refute you with a reasoned argument, but since you apparently have so little respect for evidence that you don't even use it yourself, I'll just tell you that it is, in fact, you who is wrong. Many people die from addiction to alcohol.  Alcohol is addictive in a literal, physical, sense.  Not only are there withdrawal symptoms, but you can die from alcohol withdrawal alone. Marijuana, on the other hand, is significantly less physically addictive than, say, chocolate.  And it is impossible to die from marijuana withdrawal or an overdose of marijuana. sykexl Posted at 4:45 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from starlightstarbright at 3:50 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 What blows my mind is how salvia is still legal and marijuana is not. How does that blow your mind? It actually makes perfect sense, specially given the path it is moving on now. starlightstarbright Posted at 3:50 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from CherryD at 1:20 pm on Nov. 5, 2008 It's not good for health. It's better for your health than cigarettes, alcohol, and other things that are legal. What blows my mind is how salvia is still legal and marijuana is not. sykexl Posted at 3:04 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 1:07 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 It would help to explain yourself instead of repeating that Im wrong over and over. Why would I bother explaining myself to someone who the first thing they do is imply I don't know what I'm talking about and not even bothering asking to explain myself? I feel fine with telling you are wrong and leaving it at that. I'm not here to convince you of anything.  Sorry I'm not that interested in changing people's beliefs on any given subject. I'm just interested in stating mine. Quote: from hokie at 2:57 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 You, sir, are misunderstood, and I am living evidential proof. But alas, I can not prove to someone else my own experience, so, it looks like you'll never know the truth if you stay close-minded. Feel better now? hokie Posted at 2:57 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from sykexl at 3:59 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:57 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 You apparently dont know anything so thanks for playing. Fair enough. Although, to be nice, spoiler alert: one day you'll feel like an idiot when you think back to this conversation and realize just how ignorant you use to be. Why do you say this? Did you get addicted to it and know this from experience? Do you know friends who say they aren't addicted, but they are, so that means everybody is like that? Or is it because DARE told you that people get addicted? I've known and encountered people older than probably any living relatives you have who have smoked heavily, cut down, and aren't addicted at all. At the same time, I know people who are. Big whoop? I smoked pot 2+ times every single day for 3 months straight over the summer, and I haven't smoked in over 2 months now, and I have absolutely no craving or desire to at all. I've only stopped to save some money, and later on I'll surely start again. Only for hobby, it's an interest. Just like fishing or playing golf. You, sir, are misunderstood, and I am living evidential proof. But alas, I can not prove to someone else my own experience, so, it looks like you'll never know the truth if you stay close-minded. If not, however, you may see that marijuana is only as addictive as weak-minded (majority of the population) people let it to be. For "normal" people, however, it is VERY HARD if not impossible to become addicted. Juggalotus Posted at 1:48 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from CherryD at 8:17 am on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from mtllcrckmn at 10:03 pm on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from CherryD at 11:01 am on Nov. 7, 2008 Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 4:37 am on Nov. 6, 2008 Quote: from CherryD at 5:20 am on Nov. 5, 2008 It's not good for health. Since when has that had anything to do with this? If they did drug laws based on health, weed, LSD, shrooms, and mdma would be legal and alcohol and tobacco would be illegal.       On topic, I doubt he will. The states will slowly legalize medical marijuana then we may see legalization or at least de-criminalization  in most states. Hopefully he may decide to at least de-criminalize it because it is not a crime to begin with.    Maybe 'cause it's easier to get addicted to?    But you see, it's not.    Whereas with alcohol and cigarettes it's easier to get addicted.    Marijuana will not cause you to get addicted. People who smoke it constantly may have a chance to get mentally addicted. But that's all. Mentally.    Alcoholics become physically addicted. When they try to come off they get withdrawal symptoms. For example, DTs (aka pink elephants).    Cigarette smokers will find it hard to QUIT too. They become physically addicted.    After searching wiki for cannabis and marijuana addiction I have failed to find any pages. If anyone can find a page on cannabis withdrawal on wiki please let me know.   But they can't ban cigarettes and stuff all out of a sudden because some people won't be able to take it. However, marijuana didn't exist for as long as cigarettes and alcohol(...right?) so it's just to prevent another addiction. Actually there is evidence of people using marijuana from pre-biblical times. Most recent 15 of 66 previous replies displayed.