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lostwitness Posted at 11:00 pm on Nov. 16, 2008
KRATOM - a legal drug.

Seriously... why isn't anyone talking about this?
Google it for more info...
http://www.erowid.org/plants/kratom/kratom.shtml

Here are some experiences from Erowid:


A 'Legal High' That Actually Did Something

Must say that I was pleasantly surprised at the potency of this wonderful plant. I decided to order 4 grams of '10x' extract from an online shop just to see what the effects would be like.

I was on an empty stomach and so decided to try it out at a low dosage of 1 gram. The packaging claimed that it would be active at 2 grams, and would yield 'strong effects' at 4g. I had heard of its bitter taste, but decided to tough it out. I simply mixed the powder with a coffee cup full of water and drank it quickly. The taste was bitter, but not unbearable. I'd suggest mixing it with any regular beverage of choice. Would probably go well with fruit juice or iced tea.

After about 20 minutes of drinking the liquid, I began to feel as if I had taken an opioid-based painkiller. As time went on, the effect got more and more pleasant. There was no 'speedy' sensation at the beginning, as most users have reported, but this is only my first time with this drug. As of this writing I am still feeling a strong sedative effect, very similar to that of a heavy Vicodin dose. The only negative effect I am experiencing is itchiness.

All in all, I must say that of all the legal psychoactives I have tried, this one is by far the most enjoyable, and seems to be one of the precious few that does anything at all. I highly recommend this to anyone who enjoys opium-related highs.


A Warm Opiate Feeling

More:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Kratom.shtml

I actually have kratom (haven't taken it yet though) if I ever need it for pain because In general I try to avoid pharmaceutical drugs. Definitely something I would suggest as an alternative to opiates.

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k14nk Posted at 4:19 pm on Nov. 17, 2008
I wanna eat it.
lostwitness Posted at 3:35 pm on Nov. 17, 2008
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:44 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

Quote: from lostwitness at 11:43 am on Nov. 17, 2008

Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:18 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

I tried it. Didnt do anything for me

Nothing? What was the dosage?


http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/Kratom_Powder__15x_Extract.cfm?iProductID=3490

2 grams is a very light dosage. You may have noticed a pleasant effect at 4-6 grams.

That website is very over priced though. You can find better prices here:
http://www.ethnogarden.com/cart/index.pl/catid_78/proid_168/_/_/Kratom
There are some pretty potent mixes of kratom extracts there too, see:
http://www.ethnogarden.com/cart/index.pl/catid_80/proid_321/_/_/KratomCombos-

I personally do not use drugs for recreational purposes, but rather for brain enhancement and relief of physical symptoms. If you want recreational dosages you'll just have to take much more than is usually recommended. 2 Grams is very low though for recreational use.

MushroomSatsujin Posted at 11:44 am on Nov. 17, 2008
Quote: from lostwitness at 11:43 am on Nov. 17, 2008

Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:18 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

I tried it. Didnt do anything for me

Nothing? What was the dosage?


http://www.everyonedoesit.com/online_headshop/Kratom_Powder__15x_Extract.cfm?iProductID=3490
lostwitness Posted at 11:43 am on Nov. 17, 2008
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 12:18 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

I tried it. Didnt do anything for me

Nothing? What was the dosage?

MushroomSatsujin Posted at 11:18 am on Nov. 17, 2008
I tried it. Didnt do anything for me
rosebud Posted at 1:25 am on Nov. 17, 2008
heard of it ages ago, not interested
Xusk Posted at 1:09 am on Nov. 17, 2008
Plenty of "legal" highs little kiddies could be abusing but someone has to THINK.
aphex twin Posted at 11:51 pm on Nov. 16, 2008
Kratom is pretty good. The only thing I don't really like about it is that I never get the opiate nod. And it's usually really stimulating for me.
Its use as an analgesic is sort of limited though, it's supposed to be only equivalent to that of codeine.  
Ramellan Posted at 11:07 pm on Nov. 16, 2008
i want some
lostwitness Posted at 11:06 pm on Nov. 16, 2008
Quote: from nickgrand2 at 12:04 am on Nov. 17, 2008

Maybe if you would raise your life and standards of living up you wouldn't have to get high to make to stop feeling so down.

It's a natural opioid for pain... not necessarily for getting high -- though it certainly can do that if you take enough. Many things have many uses ok.

Niick Posted at 11:05 pm on Nov. 16, 2008
Quote: from Fortis Obscurum at 2:01 am on Nov. 17, 2008

Why the fuck isn't weed legal?

The white man.

blufindr Posted at 11:05 pm on Nov. 16, 2008
Quote: from snowcone200 at 6:05 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

Quote: from blufindr at 11:04 pm on Nov. 16, 2008

An legal, eh?

It's about maybe 3-5 dollars a 10mg hit...its reallly good opiate to but a bitch to prepare.


Lulz, you missed my Grammar Nazi.

The Last Magister Posted at 11:05 pm on Nov. 16, 2008
A legal*
snowcone200 Posted at 11:05 pm on Nov. 16, 2008
Quote: from blufindr at 11:04 pm on Nov. 16, 2008

An legal, eh?

It's about maybe 3-5 dollars a 10mg hit...its reallly good opiate to but a bitch to prepare.

nickgrand2 Posted at 11:04 pm on Nov. 16, 2008
Maybe if you would raise your life and standards of living up you wouldn't have to get high to make to stop feeling so down.
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