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MourningAir Posted at 12:04 am on Dec. 24, 2008
lol

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Xusk Posted at 7:00 am on Jan. 4, 2009
Quote: from RedNoir at 11:30 am on Dec. 24, 2008

You need to stop. I know you can do it. You know you can do it.

Famous Rapper Pimp-C died of his addiction to syrup. It will kill you if you don't stop. It will also cause sever liver damage.  


Lol, FYI, he died from a perscription cough syrup known on the streets as "Purple Drank". It's Promethazine and Codeine mixed in a purple syrup(most notably abused with soda like mountain dew) and has nothing to do with dextromethorphan other then also being a opioid analgesic.

*Also MourningAir , all this GOD aspect of you stopping is very discerning and makes me think your not sober at all. To me, it looks like DXM has really messed with your psyche.

God is YOU and you must realise this is a decision soley based on that, no matter what you truely think, REALITY is what matters.

You say you denied god, but from the looks of it, you did what god would want you to do in the first place and that's being a individual that can make decisions for themself whether it's right or wrong. They say the anti-christ will come back in the form of trickery but when you actually look at what society has become, the anti-christ must have already landed on earth.

Another sheep following the herd is definitely not what 'GOD' would want, that's only what 'GODS' would want(speaking of roman times, 300 anyone?).

Analyse and question everything, doing good should be a given and not preached, after all just about every war has happen because of religion and even most segregation(the recent one being prop 8 which successfully has taken away more rights from people, those being gays getting married(marriage being another failed religious act which has now became a front for a business transaction leading the male into being screwed in the end more times then not). Then even Jesus was killed because of his own views.

(Speaking in general terms mostly since every religion is the same anyways)

Keep up the non-usage if anything! If it works, then I guess something is right.

MourningAir Posted at 5:15 pm on Dec. 31, 2008
Quote: from sykexl at 4:08 pm on Dec. 29, 2008

Tell me, how do you expect to just go back to magically believing in a god?

I probably should've been more clear about this. It wasn't that I necessarily just stopped believing in Him, it's that I forced myself to not think about His existence because I wanted to partake in sinful behavior without having to answer to anyone.


Which makes me question the validity all over again. So you are only turning to god to quit using a drug. Isn't that kind of....sad, pathetic, whatever?

No, I think it's more that I realized that I need to stop all of my harmful behavior (drugs, promiscuous sex, etc). After realizing that, it occurred to me, "Why deny God then?" I have always believed in God deep inside, I just found it easier to deny Him so that I could do whatever I wanted.

At the same time, believing in God and wanting to follow His word has kept me from going back to the drugs so far.


Even more so, what would god care about you using drugs?

Scripture says our bodies are temples and we should not do anything to harm them.

 


Also something to mention, I don't believe DXM is seriously physically addictive. I could be wrong, however, but if I'm right, then it is more of a psychological problem which can be even harder to treat in my experience. Why I bring this up is because an addiction to dissociatives is a whole other beast entirely.

Yeah I don't think dxm is very physically addictive. I think the more 'physical' stuff that results from abusing it and then stopping is also connected to the psychological aspect. For example, I've experienced a great deal of anxiety which has caused me to vomit pretty often.

All in all though, I'm doing OK so far.

sykexl Posted at 1:11 pm on Dec. 29, 2008
Quote: from RedNoir at 11:30 am on Dec. 24, 2008

You need to stop. I know you can do it. You know you can do it.  

Famous Rapper Pimp-C died of his addiction to syrup. It will kill you if you don't stop. It will also cause sever liver damage.


Pro-tip: Promethazine and Codeine aren't the same thing as DXM.

sykexl Posted at 1:08 pm on Dec. 29, 2008
And now, my random thoughts on your post.


They say that calling yourself "addicted" is a self-fulfilling prophecy
And "they" would be idiots. Would you rather be in denial?


 
2) eliminated hunger (allowing me to lose weight very easily)

Weird. For the first few weeks or so this was the case but in the years since I will get ridiculously hungry unless I go to sleep before coming down.  Even if I re-dose my body just doesn't "shutdown" like it use to. I suppose that is a good thing.

The whole situation reminds me of a girl I knew who started smoking to stay thin because it made her puke....then she became addicted to nicotine.



Eight months ago I dosed 600mg for the first time. I was amazed, I started using every day. I binged and binged and my behavior became extremely bizarre.
Ugh. A couple of days in I'd feel too "speedy" to do anything except walk circles in my room.



I don't regret doing it because we're still engaged, he is my soulmate, but he is also in a christian rehab center
Your soul mate, huh? I don't believe in that shit but hey, there's one good thing that came out of it.

And sorry to say I laughed hard at the prospect of a christian rehab center.

 


I have problems urinating,
Welcome to the club. That shouldn't be a long term problem though.



I was put on SSRIs a few weeks ago because I thought the idea of serotonin syndrome (which I have experienced mildly before) would deter me from using anymore.
Not really a good idea, but I'm sure you see that now.



A few days ago I took 900mg and nearly died. I could barely see, I couldn't remember anything (even my long term memory was nonexistent)
Sounds like what happened to me when I had three doses of 1.2g in an almost 30 hour period. Almost reminded me of being back in the hospital with general anesthesia. Never experienced serotonin syndrome myself I don't think. Reading the symptoms on wiki and it seems like it would be hard to differentiate between an average DXM trip. At least the onslaught anyways.



And I also realized I haven't been happy since I stopped believing in God 7 years or so ago. I'm going to start attending church.
Tell me, how do you expect to just go back to magically believing in a god?



I know a lot of you will say I'm weak because I need God to stop especially since dxm's physical addictiveness has yet to be determined. The thing is, without Him, I have no reason to stop.
Which makes me question the validity all over again. So you are only turning to god to quit using a drug. Isn't that kind of....sad, pathetic, whatever?  

Even more so, what would god care about you using drugs? If your only reason to not use is "Him" then I don't know what to tell you. All in all it doesn't sound very christian like to use god for your own means.

Actually, that sounds very christian like.  



And on top of this, all my friends use drugs and are atheists and I'm terrified of how they're going to take this.
You know the standard insert bullshit: they aren't really your friends if they can't accept it.




Also I am embarrassed to post this but I think by putting it on here it might encourage me to stick with this...
It's just a random forum. You lose nothing either way so I'd say that no, posting this won't/hasn't helped you. Not really.



Anyways, best of luck. I've always had trouble with DXM. Every time I use it I end up binging. Now, I can stop and go for months/years with out using so it would appear we are in different boats. It usually gets to the point where I can't do shit and so I stop for a bit. Sometimes a few weeks, others close to two years, but I've never seen how people can dose every day for a consistent time period.

Also something to mention, I don't believe DXM is seriously physically addictive. I could be wrong, however, but if I'm right, then it is more of a psychological problem which can be even harder to treat in my experience. Why I bring this up is because an addiction to dissociatives is a whole other beast entirely.  

And there are my thoughts. It should be noted I am dexing right now so forgive the randomness of my comments. Maybe I shouldn't of said that. Don't really care I guess. Just saw this thread a few days ago and felt like responding eventually so there it is.

piejesu Posted at 11:02 pm on Dec. 25, 2008
Lol

You know you love it.

jakelong Posted at 10:47 pm on Dec. 25, 2008
yeah well Melville isn't all that. I mean you ever checked out Moby dick? that story is totally whacked    
piejesu Posted at 7:52 pm on Dec. 25, 2008
Jakelong, "There is something wrong about the man who wants help. There is somewhere a deep defect, a want, in brief, a need, a crying need, somewhere about that man. "
Herman Melville
jakelong Posted at 7:04 pm on Dec. 25, 2008
Quote: from MourningAir at 5:39 pm on Dec. 25, 2008

But yeah I do think rehab is a good idea however I would be very ashamed to give up my college education for it.
No its not really "giving up" your education. Its more like taking a litle sick leave. Like taking a break to care care of yourself. In fact thats what you can tell ppl if you really want to and don't want to say too much. If they ask more detail then you decide how much they want to know or switch topics.

But really its no shame. If other ppl want to make you fel ashame they idiots and forget them/ But anyone who knows the real deal knows its no shame. Its a great thing.

jakelong Posted at 7:00 pm on Dec. 25, 2008
MA,

Well I don't think you're weak at all. I think you're pretty strong. I know a lot of ppl on drugs and other stuff. Its really really tough to admit the problem and get out of it. Its even harder to stay out of it.

I was on booze myself for a while. I say you keep it up and if you need somebody to listen Im sure you got a lot of LW to help. But if you feel down and want to talk you can PM me if you want.

Anyway you're on the right track and I think its awesome and whatever you do to stay cool and stay out of the addiction is cool by me.

Im catholic myself anway so its cool by me that you seek the help of God. He's the best help you can get really.

One thing I know: the hardest thing is admitting you need help. The thing that stops most ppl is we feel ashamed of it and we feel like shit about needing help.

But the fact is WE ALL NEED HELP! All of us even the guys who neve been addicted to anything (im not sure they even exist really). But we all need ppl to help through the tough shit in life.

So thats why its important to feel that God can help because He's the only one who can be your friend even when you feel nooby is even yourself.

Anyway keep up the good stuff and Im behind you all the way.  

MourningAir Posted at 5:39 pm on Dec. 25, 2008
But yeah I do think rehab is a good idea however I would be very ashamed to give up my college education for it. I think I will at least try this next quarter on my own and if I just cannot do it, well I guess then I have no choice but to check myself in somewhere. I don't want to disappoint my family...

I seriously appreciate everything you guys have said though. I know I can handle a lot of things but I also can't help but feel that i am weak to have let it all come to this. it's funny because i don't ever think that of others who have addictions - i never consider them weak, just unfortunate. looking back on it I'm a textbook example of someone who falls prey to this kind of stuff. came from a "broken" home, poor, relatively intelligent and the latter is perhaps why I thought i could abuse so many drugs and get away with it. I thought i was invincible.

The thing with dxm, as is apparent in lostintranslation's post is how it's not taken seriously at all. You know, there was a time when cocaine and some opiates could be found in OTC medications... Just because dxm is found in cough medicine does not mean it's a "kiddie" drug. it's the single most powerful drug I've ever used (and I've used lsd [multiple times of doing two hits at once], shrooms, coke, x, etc etc). Not taking it very seriously IMO is a huge problem in our society. I didn't ever think I could have a problem with dxm... because FFS it's found in cough syrup (although there is dxm powder). With other drugs, I was aware that you could abuse them to the point of screwing up your life and so i exercised at least some degree of caution.

but anyway

to Micus: I am definitely waiting for my fiancee. i personally feel that God made us for one another. no one in my life is religious or even close to it, if it weren't for he and I being together, i could possibly never have been exposed to God's word. because not in years have i even associated with religious people or anyone with the smallest bit of faith. All I know though is that i have to wait for him to finish his program, I've got to wait the 13 months no matter how hard it is. because if he were to just to sign himself out at this time and come back to me, I know we'd start using together again. I think we both need to get better without each other and only then can we live good lives.

MourningAir Posted at 5:20 pm on Dec. 25, 2008
Quote: from LostinTranslation00 at 12:07 pm on Dec. 25, 2008

One thing I find very hard, I repeat VERY hard to believe about your story is that you actually prefer DXM over LSD or mushrooms. That's like saying Id rather have the 5 dollar bill instead of the 100 dollar bill. Having been very experienced with all three, (900 mg dxm high dose, strip of LSD (10 hits), quarter of psilocybin)I've got to say DXM is kiddie stuff compared to LSD or psilocybin (mushrooms). I am having a hard time believing you actually did legit LSD or shrooms, because you would have moved on from DXM a long time ago. DXM is the kiddie stuff you do, and it really is bad for you in the long term. LSD and shrooms are FAR safer if you can take them resonsibly.

Yep you're right dude. i spent an hour typing up this long ass post as a complete and total joke. UMMM how does that make any sense? Not to mention how in-depth I go about it all. I'm not saying I didn't enjoy my LSD trips, just that they did not give me what dxm did. Imo dxm is a drug for the morbid. Everything about it was morbid. tripping balls completely dissociated from myself seeing demons flying about me and not feeling any fear from it. When you're on acid, the slightest change in your emotion can cripple you. When I'm hallucinating on dxm, I acknowledge that something is scary but I ultimately do not feel any fear because it all remains apart from myself.

piejesu Posted at 4:01 pm on Dec. 25, 2008
Quote: from yourbrainonsaget at 9:24 am on Dec. 25, 2008

Quote: from LostinTranslation00 at 12:07 pm on Dec. 25, 2008 One thing I find very hard, I repeat VERY hard to believe about your story is that you actually prefer DXM over LSD or mushrooms. That's like saying Id rather have the 5 dollar bill instead of the 100 dollar bill. Having been very experienced with all three, (900 mg dxm high dose, strip of LSD (10 hits), quarter of psilocybin)I've got to say DXM is kiddie stuff compared to LSD or psilocybin (mushrooms). I am having a hard time believing you actually did legit LSD or shrooms, because you would have moved on from DXM a long time ago. DXM is the kiddie stuff you do, and it really is bad for you in the long term. LSD and shrooms are FAR safer if you can take them resonsibly.
Yea, they are far safer drugs, but with DXM everyone reacts differently, I mean everyone. Brain chemistry is really a factor in it. Some people get full blown, awe-inspiring experiences, while others just don't really break through. Its not just a "kiddie" drug for everyone


Yes, yes, what you said is very important too. It is very much so an important factor in it.
piejesu Posted at 3:56 pm on Dec. 25, 2008
Quote: from LostinTranslation00 at 9:07 am on Dec. 25, 2008

Quote: from MourningAir at 12:04 am on Dec. 24, 2008

They say that calling yourself "addicted" is a self-fulfilling prophecy. At the same time, what good is lying to yourself and feeding into your own delusions?  

 This is going to be long so just start reading at the bold part if you don't want to read it all.  

 I started using dxm about a year and a half ago. mostly because I had heard you could trip off of it and lsd and shrooms were not readily available in my hometown. I was bored of weed and alcohol and didn't really enjoy pills much. What I found was a drug that:  
 1) eliminated my social anxiety (more than benzos even)  
 2) eliminated hunger (allowing me to lose weight very easily)  
 3) made me feel happy (like I had the potential to do anything and was a very unique and intelligent individual)  
 4) gave me confidence  
 5) allowed me to bring my ideas to life (I was able to actually see whatever I thought up - it's like being a god)  

 and various other things I could go on and on about. Even when I did get my hands on lsd, shrooms, ecstasy, etc, I found that these substances alone were nothing next to dxm. Instead I began to use them in combination with it, not really giving a crap about the consequences.  

 At first I only used dxm at low doses and only about once a month. Eight months ago I dosed 600mg for the first time. I was amazed, I started using every day. I binged and binged and my behavior became extremely bizarre. Seriously, an example:  

 I started talking to this guy I met on a dxm forum. We talked for like 2 weeks and then he hopped on a bus and came down to live with me in my car. I got kicked out of the house, had my car taken away, and he and I lived out in the woods in a tent for a few days until he asked me to marry him and we moved in with his dad back in Michigan. Yep, that's right. I knew this guy for about 4 weeks and I moved to a different state with him. We did dxm almost daily. the only breaks were when we'd sleep for 15+ hours then get up and do it again.  

 I don't regret doing it because we're still engaged, he is my soulmate, but he is also in a christian rehab center in a program for 13 months (he has been abusing dxm for 4 years now).  

 When he first left for the program, I pretty much told him to go fuck himself. I was upset because I'm not allowed contact with him until it's been six months. It's been almost four months.  

 I was able to keep from doing dxm for about 3 weeks because I lost my ID and was too depressed (from being away from him) to walk the 45 minutes to steal some cough syrup from Wal-mart. I failed half of my classes (prior to this year I had been an all A student in AP classes), lost many of my friends who were freaked out by my behavior. I have problems urinating, I'm even more anxious now than I was before I started abusing dxm, my word recall is awful, my short term memory is shot.  

 I was put on SSRIs a few weeks ago because I thought the idea of serotonin syndrome (which I have experienced mildly before) would deter me from using anymore. A week ago I took 600mg and had an awesome trip. A few days ago I took 900mg and nearly died. I could barely see, I couldn't remember anything (even my long term memory was nonexistent), I just kept crying because I realized I was afraid of dying and I was so sad because of all the pain I've put my family through.  

 I'm not going to use any substances anymore, I decided. because even by using weed (which I have smoked on a daily basis for about 3 years), all it reminds me of is "Wow this would be great with some dxm." And I also realized I haven't been happy since I stopped believing in God 7 years or so ago. I'm going to start attending church.  

 I know a lot of you will say I'm weak because I need God to stop especially since dxm's physical addictiveness has yet to be determined. The thing is, without Him, I have no reason to stop. Yes I hate hurting my family but I justify it to myself - that they just don't understand, that moderate use is OK. It's obvious though that I cannot just use dxm, I have shown myself this time and time again. I just don't care about myself at all. All I care about is doing more.  

 It's been like four days and I feel HORRIBLE. The thought of never doing dxm again makes me want to die, makes me feel like I will never again know any joy the world has to offer. And on top of this, all my friends use drugs and are atheists and I'm terrified of how they're going to take this.  

 I need some encouraging words... or someone's experiences to relate to... or something.  

 Also I am embarrassed to post this but I think by putting it on here it might encourage me to stick with this...


One thing I find very hard, I repeat VERY hard to believe about your story is that you actually prefer DXM over LSD or mushrooms. That's like saying Id rather have the 5 dollar bill instead of the 100 dollar bill. Having been very experienced with all three, (900 mg dxm high dose, strip of LSD (10 hits), quarter of psilocybin)I've got to say DXM is kiddie stuff compared to LSD or psilocybin (mushrooms). I am having a hard time believing you actually did legit LSD or shrooms, because you would have moved on from DXM a long time ago. DXM is the kiddie stuff you do, and it really is bad for you in the long term. LSD and shrooms are FAR safer if you can take them resonsibly.


You know, being an elitist in this subject is just...total and utter fail. A "kiddie" drug? You're such a tool, I'm sorry, but it's not at all about classifying drugs into "big grown up" drugs and into "kiddie" drug categories. You don't need to justify a preference for something by it being a "big hardcore drug". It's about personal tastes and what matches them. Different drugs offer different things, some people are addicted to nicotine and caffeine but they are obviously not as powerful as your "holy grail" drugs LSD and Mushrooms. Some people are just "different" my friend, you don't need to attempt to discredit them or their experiences to reinforce your narrow-minded mainstream tastes. I have used LSD/Mescaline/2C-I/Mushrooms/Ecstasy/Coke/Morphine/Meth and many many others extensively from different sources all across the country, quite a few of them being classified as traditionally hardcore addictive drugs, and haven't found a single instance of one of those 'hardcore' drugs holding a match against DXM in regards to my personal tastes, and that is me being %100 serious. Yes, LSD, and Mushrooms are mighty powerful....but I found them to be...not at all what I was looking for, they offer one thing, DXM offers another, and I prefered the latter by the nth degree, And seriously....DXM is VERY powerful, calling it a kiddie drug is just silly, a 4th plateau experience will knock you on your ass, and that's coming from somebody that's used salvia. I think a heavy 2nd plateau dose was my favorite place, that's where I was most capable of enjoying it while interacting with the outer world in a somewhat normal fashion.

Vicodin Posted at 9:30 am on Dec. 25, 2008
Kels kels kels.

You are one the coolest kids ever.

I know you can do it. You're one tough little shit. From day one I thought you were hardcore enough to face anything, including this. Facing up to it and really admitting it takes a lot, and you did it. I honestly believe you can get through this. No matter what you're still a cool kid in my book. I know what it's like to try to kick an addiction, I, however, don't have enough courage to actually stop at the moment. I'm in awe that you have that courage. Find whatever it takes for you to have an amazing life, kid. You deserve it.

yourbrainonsaget Posted at 9:24 am on Dec. 25, 2008
Quote: from LostinTranslation00 at 12:07 pm on Dec. 25, 2008 One thing I find very hard, I repeat VERY hard to believe about your story is that you actually prefer DXM over LSD or mushrooms. That's like saying Id rather have the 5 dollar bill instead of the 100 dollar bill. Having been very experienced with all three, (900 mg dxm high dose, strip of LSD (10 hits), quarter of psilocybin)I've got to say DXM is kiddie stuff compared to LSD or psilocybin (mushrooms). I am having a hard time believing you actually did legit LSD or shrooms, because you would have moved on from DXM a long time ago. DXM is the kiddie stuff you do, and it really is bad for you in the long term. LSD and shrooms are FAR safer if you can take them resonsibly.
Yea, they are far safer drugs, but with DXM everyone reacts differently, I mean everyone.   Brain chemistry is really a factor in it.  Some people get full blown, awe-inspiring experiences, while others just don't really break through.  Its not just a "kiddie" drug for everyone
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