Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Hookah Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]Charolastra[/m] at 10:39 pm on Oct. 16, 2006[quote]EDIT: I DIDN'T POST THIS THREAD FOR YOU TO TELL ME HOW BAD SMOKING IS KTHX FGTS. Fuck yeah, this is the shit! [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/soy_sauce/DSC00088.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/soy_sauce/DSC00086.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/soy_sauce/DSC00089.jpg[/IMG] [URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v47/soy_sauce/?action=view¤t=MOV00015.flv][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/soy_sauce/th_MOV00015.jpg[/IMG][/URL] It was my first time hitting it. I celebrated with picture-taking. We used strawberry tobacco (only). My friends ditched school today and bought it. A modest sized one, I think it cost them about $50? That was for a case for it as well. One hose (all it can handle). We had a regular cigarette lighter so it took like 10-15 minutes to get the charcoal started.   We did it way out in the middle of nowhere. The like, undeveloped part of town where there are horse ranches and stuff. There was like a recreation park in this middle of nowhere area, and benches there so we just hit it there. I didn't feel it much, but after like I don't know, the 10th time around, coupled with a lot of laughing and not to mention some bigass hits, I finally started feeling pretty lightheaded. Still not nearly as strong as say, cigarettes, but still fun nonetheless. In fact, I wouldn't care either way if I could feel what I was smoking so much as I had a lot of fun blowing the smoke! There was so much of it! haha.   Sooner or later we're going to add weed to it, I don't know when, I think I should like spend the night at my friend's house or something if I want to do that (not sure how that would work out, they're guys...) We're planning on hitting it up tomorrow, in the same exact location. Hell yes! (And since hindsight is 20/20 [I mean, it was also a spur-of-the-moment deal], we're bringing an actual BBQ lighter.) Post your hookah experiences, I guess?[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post Charolastra Posted at 10:39 pm on Oct. 16, 2006 EDIT: I DIDN'T POST THIS THREAD FOR YOU TO TELL ME HOW BAD SMOKING IS KTHX FGTS. Fuck yeah, this is the shit! It was my first time hitting it. I celebrated with picture-taking. We used strawberry tobacco (only). My friends ditched school today and bought it. A modest sized one, I think it cost them about $50? That was for a case for it as well. One hose (all it can handle). We had a regular cigarette lighter so it took like 10-15 minutes to get the charcoal started.   We did it way out in the middle of nowhere. The like, undeveloped part of town where there are horse ranches and stuff. There was like a recreation park in this middle of nowhere area, and benches there so we just hit it there. I didn't feel it much, but after like I don't know, the 10th time around, coupled with a lot of laughing and not to mention some bigass hits, I finally started feeling pretty lightheaded. Still not nearly as strong as say, cigarettes, but still fun nonetheless. In fact, I wouldn't care either way if I could feel what I was smoking so much as I had a lot of fun blowing the smoke! There was so much of it! haha.   Sooner or later we're going to add weed to it, I don't know when, I think I should like spend the night at my friend's house or something if I want to do that (not sure how that would work out, they're guys...) We're planning on hitting it up tomorrow, in the same exact location. Hell yes! (And since hindsight is 20/20 [I mean, it was also a spur-of-the-moment deal], we're bringing an actual BBQ lighter.) Post your hookah experiences, I guess?

Replies snowfish Posted at 9:00 pm on Nov. 6, 2006 I hit it, I was already pretty high though. I think I need to try it sober. Anthrax Posted at 4:47 am on Nov. 6, 2006 Looks awesome, I've never had the chance to hit one though, and I don't think we have any of the bars around here either. Blacksummer Posted at 2:03 am on Nov. 6, 2006 It seems you are arguing that the counterculture ideal of "fuck the system" can't be achieved, and I agree. That's probably the only clear point I made. An example I like to use is the anti-advertising campaigns like AdBuster and shit. The simple and effective way to deal with 'corporate logos' is to just make advertising expenditures non- tax deductible or at least not as deductible. It's just paper work but paper work isn't fun enough. Riots are so much more exciting and rebellious. Who can't complain with that? old american century Posted at 10:39 pm on Nov. 5, 2006 Quote: from Blacksummer at 10:24 pm on Nov. 5, 2006 if mainstream culture adopts the sentiments of the counterculture, the counterculture has succeeded.   So this so called 'counterculture' does nothing at all. Nothing gets done.   No, everything gets done!  If the counterculture believes that gays should wear blue hats, women should be bald, and that the best and only way to have sex is on waterbeds, and eventually the mainstream culture starts acting out these same ideas, I believe the counterculture succeeded.  If the counterculture ideal of someone is to "fuck the system," they'll only "win" if the system is abolished.  There's no spot on the ballot that says "abolish government."  I doubt anyone can actually "fuck the system," but if the counterculture ideals simply require a change in the way the system works, it can win. All those riots and all those anti-ads shit is a bunch of failure in a tight little ball.   Just rebuttle me again so I can clear my shit up. It seems you are arguing that the counterculture ideal of "fuck the system" can't be achieved, and I agree.  I'm talking about the other ideals the counterculture represents that are simply modifications in the way the system runs. *These are my opinions.  I believe there are many countercultures, not one. old american century Posted at 10:34 pm on Nov. 5, 2006 Quote: from Blacksummer at 10:19 pm on Nov. 5, 2006 Your still thinking of it as two seperate things. Yes, because I believe they are two separate things.  Different people have different ideals; it's the people with the ideals that aren't yet incorporated into mainstream culture that represent the counterculture.   The counterculture movements is a movement of the culture as a whole. I understand that the counterculture is within the "culture" (society), but that doesn't mean that counterculture and mainstream culture are the same, they just exist in the same system. This is why people who think they can fuck the system can't fuck the system, they are their own enemy. It's a vicious circle. /tired. Fucking the system is only one of the many counterculture ideals.  I think most people are looking to change the system (incorporate their ideas into the mainstream), not fuck the system.  They just want to see the system work based on their beliefs. *I'm not looking to persuade anyone; these are my opinions. Blacksummer Posted at 10:24 pm on Nov. 5, 2006 if mainstream culture adopts the sentiments of the counterculture, the counterculture has succeeded. So this so called 'counterculture' does nothing at all. Nothing gets done. All those riots and all those anti-ads shit is a bunch of failure in a tight little ball. Just rebuttle me again so I can clear my shit up. Blacksummer Posted at 10:19 pm on Nov. 5, 2006 Quote: from old american century at 8:36 pm on Nov. 3, 2006 Quote: from Miss Maggie at 3:02 pm on Nov. 3, 2006 And, old american century, there really was no revolution, per-say. The revolution is still happening today, merely covert (imo).   Quote: from Blacksummer at 4:35 pm on Nov. 3, 2006 Read the book 'The Rebel Sell'. Counter culture is not a seperate entity it is the culture. You have a lot to learn. Do you plan on having an argument or just exchanging claims?  I'm fine with either. From what I've read, the authors are making arguments based on the premise that counterculture trends have, and do fail.  I disagree with the premise, because I witness the counterculture everyday; it hasn't failed yet. Also, from what I understand, the argument that follows is that the counterculture movements fail because they become commercialized and capitalized, later making them a part of mainstream culture?  Am I correct?  If one believes this to be so, then I have different ideas re: what exactly the counterculture is and what exactly it is trying to achieve. I don't believe counterculture trends fail once they are capitalized; if mainstream culture adopts the sentiments of the counterculture, the counterculture has succeeded.  It's also important to note that just because the mainstream culture hasn't adopted counterculture beliefs, that doesn't mean the counterculture movement has necessarily failed. Your still thinking of it as two seperate things. The counterculture movements is a movement of the culture as a whole. This is why people who think they can fuck the system can't fuck the system, they are their own enemy. It's a vicious circle. /tired. NYGirl1113 Posted at 9:07 pm on Nov. 5, 2006 Quote: from old american century at 10:17 pm on Nov. 5, 2006 The Dead > Jefferson Airplane BITE YOUR TONGUE! old american century Posted at 7:17 pm on Nov. 5, 2006 The Dead > Jefferson Airplane TheyCallMeDrLove Posted at 6:31 pm on Nov. 5, 2006 Quote: from old american century at 1:59 pm on Nov. 3, 2006 White Rabbit is one of the most culturally iconic anthems of the counterculture revolution.  I'm offended that you have degenerated it's gravity-- a la inferring that so few of the TA&SA members are not sufficiently erudite re: the drug culture-- by offering a shiny star to the people who can name the band, considering all responsible users (and abusers) should know this song (by heart).  This leads me to believe you are: too young to have realized, or considered, the significance this song has had over the last half century; naive to the sociopolitical cultural networking apropos of the drug community; too new to be aware of the sui generis & learned members of this detrital forum; or an ostentatious, pretentious, haughty spirit. shut the fuck up first of all wtf are you talking about and secondly i am a student studying journalism and i plan on becoming a music  journalist. jefferson airplane is one of my favourite bands and... for fucks sake i was just joking around... jesus christ dont take sh!t so seriously or i'll have to ro sham bo you. old american century Posted at 8:36 pm on Nov. 3, 2006 Quote: from Miss Maggie at 3:02 pm on Nov. 3, 2006 And, old american century, there really was no revolution, per-say. The revolution is still happening today, merely covert (imo). Quote: from Blacksummer at 4:35 pm on Nov. 3, 2006 Read the book 'The Rebel Sell'. Counter culture is not a seperate entity it is the culture. You have a lot to learn. Do you plan on having an argument or just exchanging claims?  I'm fine with either. From what I've read, the authors are making arguments based on the premise that counterculture trends have, and do fail.  I disagree with the premise, because I witness the counterculture everyday; it hasn't failed yet. Also, from what I understand, the argument that follows is that the counterculture movements fail because they become commercialized and capitalized, later making them a part of mainstream culture?  Am I correct?  If one believes this to be so, then I have different ideas re: what exactly the counterculture is and what exactly it is trying to achieve. I don't believe counterculture trends fail once they are capitalized; if mainstream culture adopts the sentiments of the counterculture, the counterculture has succeeded.  It's also important to note that just because the mainstream culture hasn't adopted counterculture beliefs, that doesn't mean the counterculture movement has necessarily failed. snowfish Posted at 6:18 pm on Nov. 3, 2006 mmm one of my best friends bought a hookah last weekend. We'll see if I get a chance to hit it up soon. We've also got a hookah bar down in Seattle, but I've never really had the motivation to drive down and pay for it. Blacksummer Posted at 4:35 pm on Nov. 3, 2006 Quote: from old american century at 2:43 pm on Nov. 3, 2006 From where I'm seated, it's alive and thriving, right outside my door. Counterculture has likely always existed, and most likely always will. edit: You Canadians sure are something else. Read the book 'The Rebel Sell'. Counter culture is not a seperate entity it is the culture. You have a lot to learn. Miss Maggie Posted at 3:02 pm on Nov. 3, 2006 Much love for TheyCallMeDrLove for posting Jefferson Airplane!  And no, chil', that's not what I was implying.  It was just a query, is all.  By the by, I never replied to your message.  All of your photographs are quite lovely. And, old american century, there really was no revolution, per-say.  You could say that they attempted, but when I look around today, I don't see peace and free-love all around me.  A counter-culture will always exist, unless our world falls to some fascist tyrant, but we have yet to see an actual revolution. old american century Posted at 2:43 pm on Nov. 3, 2006 From where I'm seated, it's alive and thriving, right outside my door. Counterculture has likely always existed, and most likely always will. edit: You Canadians sure are something else. Most recent 15 of 62 previous replies displayed.