Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Wimbledon Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]Midnight Frost[/m] at 9:33 am on July 3, 2008[quote]Hoping Safin will win. If not, Nadal.[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post Decadence Posted at 5:14 pm on June 22, 2008 Wimbledon Championships start tomorrow. Who plans on watching and who are you rooting for? First round draw Schedule of play

Replies Soren Kierkegaard Posted at 4:40 pm on July 13, 2008 Quote: from Borislav at 3:15 pm on July 13, 2008 Dude I saw rafa and federer and most of the top 20 guys play. I know all about them. Rafa does not care about the US open as much as the french or wimbeldon.   Canas also said the same. Fuck the USA open it's not imporant. It has the largest purse out of the other Majors due to the US Open Series leading up to the Grand Slam. It still is 1000 pt toward their ranking with a victory in tine Final? And more importantly, the series is the first jump back off grass court season leading up to the ATP Masters Cup, which happens to be played on Hard Court, as well.   Borislav Posted at 3:15 pm on July 13, 2008 Dude I saw rafa and federer and most of the top 20 guys play. I know all about them. Rafa does not care about the US open as much as the french or wimbeldon. Canas also said the same. Fuck the USA open it's not imporant. Soren Kierkegaard Posted at 2:40 pm on July 13, 2008 Quote: from Borislav at 11:33 am on July 13, 2008 Quote: from Soren Kierkegaard at 8:41 am on July 13, 2008 And I am telling you that due to Nadal's playing style, he's literally spent most of his energy up through the Grass Court season, which still leaves Federer the heavy favorite to defend his US Open Series crown. THE USA is not important for Spaniards and for Nadal. he does not care about it. haha And your ignorance astounds me even further. Borislav Posted at 11:33 am on July 13, 2008 Quote: from Soren Kierkegaard at 8:41 am on July 13, 2008 And I am telling you that due to Nadal's playing style, he's literally spent most of his energy up through the Grass Court season, which still leaves Federer the heavy favorite to defend his US Open Series crown. THE USA is not important for Spaniards and for Nadal. he does not care about it. haha Soren Kierkegaard Posted at 8:41 am on July 13, 2008 And I am telling you that due to Nadal's playing style, he's literally spent most of his energy up through the Grass Court season, which still leaves Federer the heavy favorite to defend his US Open Series crown. jakelong Posted at 8:05 pm on July 12, 2008 Quote: from Soren Kierkegaard at 7:17 pm on July 12, 2008 , but that does not mean that Federer is down in out whatsoever compared to Nadal. I never said THAT so don't try to say I did. All I said is Nadal is getting better and better. And to wait a few years and he might win the hard courts as well. Soren Kierkegaard Posted at 7:17 pm on July 12, 2008 Quote: from jakelong at 3:13 pm on July 12, 2008 Quote: from Soren Kierkegaard at 11:02 am on July 12, 2008 Yes, he is 22-years-old, but it practically took him exhausting every hat trick in the book in order to win their latest bout on grass, Maybe you should hear what Federer said about nadal Federer said Nadal was being underestimated, especially by the media. "There's no such thing as a specialist on clay now. Maybe it's your best surface but then you can always play well on the hard courts, and even grass today," he said. "That's why I am not surprised at all at how good he is -- what has surprised me that at his young age, he's been able to do it for so long. "That's impressive stuff and something that I wasn't able to do. That's why I have high respect for him. "It's almost impossible for him to be as dominant on hard courts as he is on clay because hard courts is just a different ball game, but it (his main rival) is Nadal." http://www.rediff.com/sports/2007/aug/25fed.htm but you should not discredit experience or age, as well. I don't but don't discredit Nadal neither.   He is getting up in age, yes, but he still is #1 Sure but Nadal ois up and coming right behind. arguably one of the greatest tennis players of all-time yeah well to me Pete Sampras beats them all. He WAS the BEST. Ever.    In the three widely publicized exhibition matches between Federer-Samprass, how old was he when he was able to win of those matches? Doesn't mean much because by the time he beat him Sampras was already older and more tired and practically retired. I love how you continue to selectively read most, if not all of the information that you simply choose to voice your opinions over.  I am looking at simple numbers, and by Nadal's playing style, it has much to be desired on Hard Courts as a rule, not Federer.  They're both humble players and deeply respect one another, but that does not mean that Federer is down in out whatsoever compared to Nadal. jakelong Posted at 3:13 pm on July 12, 2008 Quote: from Soren Kierkegaard at 11:02 am on July 12, 2008 Yes, he is 22-years-old, but it practically took him exhausting every hat trick in the book in order to win their latest bout on grass, Maybe you should hear what Federer said about nadal Federer said Nadal was being underestimated, especially by the media. "There's no such thing as a specialist on clay now. Maybe it's your best surface but then you can always play well on the hard courts, and even grass today," he said. "That's why I am not surprised at all at how good he is -- what has surprised me that at his young age, he's been able to do it for so long. "That's impressive stuff and something that I wasn't able to do. That's why I have high respect for him. "It's almost impossible for him to be as dominant on hard courts as he is on clay because hard courts is just a different ball game, but it (his main rival) is Nadal." http://www.rediff.com/sports/2007/aug/25fed.htm but you should not discredit experience or age, as well. I don't but don't discredit Nadal neither. He is getting up in age, yes, but he still is #1 Sure but Nadal ois up and coming right behind. arguably one of the greatest tennis players of all-time yeah well to me Pete Sampras beats them all. He WAS the BEST. Ever. In the three widely publicized exhibition matches between Federer-Samprass, how old was he when he was able to win of those matches? Doesn't mean much because by the time he beat him Sampras was already older and more tired and practically retired. Soren Kierkegaard Posted at 11:02 am on July 12, 2008 Es tut mir leid, but I am afraid that would have, could have, should have isn't a valid reason for further discussion, jakelong.  Has Nadal ever made it to the finals of the Tennis Masters Cup?  Ever made it to the Finals of either US Open or Australian Open?  Yes, he is 22-years-old, but it practically took him exhausting every hat trick in the book in order to win their latest bout on grass, Federer's dominant surface, who is presently 26-years-old. Simply acknowledging Nadal as young and capable of becoming greater is logical, yes, but you should not discredit experience or age, as well.  Federer still has a couple of more years to play phenomenally competitive tennis on Hard-Grass-Carpet courts, and would be even better on Clay if he practiced round the clock on his own clay circuit with a left-handed clay court player to help him train against Nadal. Granted, Nadal is naturally a right-handed person who was forced to learn how to play tennis with his left-hand by his uncle in order to give him a greater edge over his opponents. Federer has since been able to consistently played Nadal in crucial finals on Hard-Clay-Grass, but not Carpet as of yet thus far.  He is getting up in age, yes, but he still is #1 and arguably one of the greatest tennis players of all-time due to his versatility and overall ability to increase his competitiveness during trying moments in professional tennis. How old was Agassi again when he made it to the Finals of the US Open against Federer in 2005?  Agassi turned pro in 1986 and was able to win the 2003 Australian Open as his final Grand Slam Tournament. How old was Samprass when Federer dethroned him in the 4th Round of the 2001 Wimbledon games, before finally retiring as of 2003?  He went pro originally around 1988, and was able to win upward to 14 of the 18 Grand Slam Finals?  In the three widely publicized exhibition matches between Federer-Samprass, how old was he when he was able to win of those matches? jakelong Posted at 10:04 pm on July 11, 2008 no his injuries are because he gives alot of himself. Federer is good. but Nadal is just 22 and hes gonna get even better. Soren Kierkegaard Posted at 8:50 pm on July 11, 2008 Quote: from jakelong at 9:49 am on July 11, 2008 By the end of the Clay and Grass Court season, Nadal's knees are excruciatingly painful for him yeah because he gives so much of himself. The fact that he gets injured doesn't mean he's a worse player than Federer though. However, it doesn't mean that Nadal is any better than Federer either?  Federer has more titles and obviously has clear edge over Nadal on Hard courts, because of Nadal's constant injuries due specifically to his inability to function the same as he can on the softer surfaces. jakelong Posted at 9:49 am on July 11, 2008 By the end of the Clay and Grass Court season, Nadal's knees are excruciatingly painful for him yeah because he gives so much of himself. The fact that he gets injured doesn't mean he's a worse player than Federer though. Soren Kierkegaard Posted at 8:35 am on July 11, 2008 Quote: from jakelong at 1:52 am on July 11, 2008 Wait a few years. Federer still has the higher seed and better chances to win at every Hard, Grass, and Carpet court he plays on instead of Clay.  By the end of the Clay and Grass Court season, Nadal's knees are excruciatingly painful for him, which is why he has never really done that well during the US Open series or Tennis Masters Cup, which both Federer is expected to win still. jakelong Posted at 1:52 am on July 11, 2008 Wait a few years. Soren Kierkegaard Posted at 7:22 pm on July 10, 2008 Quote: from Borislav at 7:16 pm on July 10, 2008 Quote: from Decadence at 4:22 pm on July 10, 2008 Quote: from Borislav at 5:12 pm on July 8, 2008 Quote: from Telemachus at 10:22 pm on July 7, 2008 Quote: from jakelong at 10:53 pm on July 7, 2008 Rafa won! yeah!!!!!            No...NO!!     calm down telamachus. nice greek name by the way. Odysseus's son. Rafa is the best player in the world now.    Roger Federer is still number one seed. The seeds mean nothing now. Rafa is better and beat federer in Paris and London. Rafa is better and dominates. Except for any of the Hard Court Grand Slams, of course. Most recent 15 of 155 previous replies displayed.