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JustaKid Posted at 4:11 pm on Jan. 8, 2008
So im trying to get this code to work. lots of tables though lol so it can get confusing. I have the code all set up but the image and text in the <!---Updates Box1---> isnt working for me. It just doesnt come up. Any suggestions?  Heres the code...

<table border="0">
<tr>
<td>
<!--------START NAV TABLE-------->
<table border="0">
<tr>
<td> <center><font size="4"><b>Navigation</b> </font></center> </td></tr>
<tr>
<td><img src="graphics/buttons/home.jpg" /></td> </tr>
<tr>
<td><img src="graphics/buttons/oldvsnewpp.jpg" /></td></tr>
<tr>
<td><img src="graphics/buttons/ourstaff.jpg" /></td></tr>
<tr>
<td> <img src="graphics/buttons/playerstuffies.jpg" /></td></tr>
<tr>
<td> <img src="graphics/buttons/ppstaff.jpg" /></td></tr>
</table>
<!-----END NAV------>
</td>
<td>
<-----START UPDATES----->
<table border="0" width="500">
<tr>
<td> <center><font size="4"> <b>News and Updates</b></font> </center></td></tr>
<tr>
<td>
<!----Updates Box 1------>
<table border="1" width="500">
<tr><td> <center><font color="#FFFFFF"> <b>Welcome!</b></font> </center> </td></tr>
<tr><td><img src="graphics/banner.gif" />Welcome! The site is up and running. Some links may not work because<br /> they are still being worked on. If you have any questions or comments please see the Contact Us button to your left.<br /> Check back often for new updates. Thanks and I hope you enjoy!</td></tr>
</table>
<!----END Updates 1----->
</td>
</tr>
</table>
<!------END UPDATES------>
</td>
</tr>
</table>

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allsmiles Posted at 5:38 am on Jan. 10, 2008
Quote: from PiXiE at 11:18 pm on Jan. 9, 2008

Ok fine, you don't care about accessibility, search engine optimization (remember, google is a blind user too), site size/efficiency, or keeping up with current standards and practices (err, not so current -- css came about nearly a decade ago). Not everyone cares about that stuff, and people like to stick to what they know. But if you ever wanted to get a job with a professional web design firm or something of the like (which I'm guessing you don't), you'd be laughed out of the room with table-based layouts. It's like choosing the long way when the shortcut is right in front of you.

You're right, I don't want a job with a professional firm. I'm a real programmer, not an artist masquerading as a programmer.

rand0mguy Posted at 3:31 pm on Jan. 9, 2008
Learn CSS!!!
PiXiE Posted at 3:18 pm on Jan. 9, 2008
Ok fine, you don't care about accessibility, search engine optimization (remember, google is a blind user too), site size/efficiency, or keeping up with current standards and practices (err, not so current -- css came about nearly a decade ago). Not everyone cares about that stuff, and people like to stick to what they know. But if you ever wanted to get a job with a professional web design firm or something of the like (which I'm guessing you don't), you'd be laughed out of the room with table-based layouts. It's like choosing the long way when the shortcut is right in front of you.
allsmiles Posted at 1:54 pm on Jan. 9, 2008
That entire document feels like propaganda. There's only one benefit of CSS over Tables that isn't either false (the caching thing), or surmountable by server side scripting, and that's the readability for the blind user. Which to be honest, I don't give a shit about. I also don't see the point in differentiating between different types of visually identical formatting, or using a 5 byte tag to do the same thing a 1 byte tag would.
PiXiE Posted at 11:14 am on Jan. 9, 2008
No, it isn't elitism. This explains it better than I ever could.
allsmiles Posted at 7:48 am on Jan. 9, 2008
Quote: from PiXiE at 3:08 pm on Jan. 9, 2008

Quote: from allsmiles at 3:04 am on Jan. 9, 2008

Quote: from rand0mguy at 3:22 am on Jan. 9, 2008

um i have an idea.... LEARN CSS.. tables should only be used to display tabular data
 

 Bitch bitch whine whine tables are valid coding also



Tables may validate but it is not proper usage. Once you get the hang of CSS you realize how much easier it is than messing around with tables.

I know CSS, I just find tables to be more logical. So long as it validates, everything about CSS over tables is pure elitism.

PiXiE Posted at 7:08 am on Jan. 9, 2008
Quote: from allsmiles at 3:04 am on Jan. 9, 2008

Quote: from rand0mguy at 3:22 am on Jan. 9, 2008

um i have an idea.... LEARN CSS.. tables should only be used to display tabular data

Bitch bitch whine whine tables are valid coding also



Tables may validate but it is not proper usage. Once you get the hang of CSS you realize how much easier it is than messing around with tables.
allsmiles Posted at 2:04 am on Jan. 9, 2008
Quote: from rand0mguy at 3:22 am on Jan. 9, 2008

um i have an idea.... LEARN CSS.. tables should only be used to display tabular data

Bitch bitch whine whine tables are valid coding also

rand0mguy Posted at 7:22 pm on Jan. 8, 2008
um i have an idea.... LEARN CSS.. tables should only be used to display tabular data
JustaKid Posted at 4:19 pm on Jan. 8, 2008
Oh thats wierd that it works in the practice board. Hmm maybe its just not FireFox compatible?  Lol I feel so stupid i wasted at least 20-25 minutes rereading the code like 100 times lol =P
RossTheHoss69 Posted at 4:16 pm on Jan. 8, 2008
Quote: from The Dalai Lama at 6:15 pm on Jan. 8, 2008

You forgot the closing </table> for the START UPDATES section.  

And you forgot the <table> for the last two sections as well.



EDIT: nvm.
teeny Posted at 4:16 pm on Jan. 8, 2008
i just put it on practice board, just like it is, and it worked fine. http://www.practiceboard.com/?7747701
which means your html is messed up somewhere else.
RossTheHoss69 Posted at 4:15 pm on Jan. 8, 2008
It could just be the wrong path to the image.
Make sure the image is correctly named,
and if that doesn't work, then take the image you want,
and upload it to photobucket.
The Dalai Lama Posted at 4:15 pm on Jan. 8, 2008
You forgot the closing </table> for the START UPDATES section.

And you forgot the <table> for the last two sections as well.

nvm

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