"In accordance with the constitution and federal law, I, as president of Russia, am obliged to protect lives and dignity of Russian citizens wherever they are located," Medvedev said, according to Russian news reports. "We won't allow the death of our compatriots go unpunished."
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has warned that the Georgian attack will draw retaliation and the Defense Ministry pledged to protect South Ossetians, most of whom have Russian citizenship.
Georgian forces also shot down two Russian combat planes, according to Georgia's Interior Ministry spokesman, Shota Utiashvili. He said the planes were downed while they were raiding Georgian territory, but wouldn't give their type or any further details.
Russia's Defense Ministry denied an earlier Georgian report about one Russian plane downed. It had no immediate comment on the latest claim.
An Associated Press reporter saw tanks and other heavy weapons concentrating on the Russian side of the border with South Ossetia. Some villagers were fleeing into Russia.
"I saw them (the Georgians) shelling my village," said Maria, who gave only her first name. She said she and other villagers spent the night in a field and then fled toward the Russian border as the fighting escalated.
Separatist officials in South Ossetia said 15 civilians had been killed in fighting overnight. Georgian officials said seven civilians were wounded in bombing raids by Russia.
Putin, in Beijing to attend the Olympic opening ceremony, also said an unspecified number of the peacekeepers have been wounded. A full-scale aggression has been launched against Georgia," Saakashvili said in a televised statement.
FUCK. If we (usa) interfere.... We might get into another Cold war.
Russia may be corrupt but Georgia is not a beacon of liberty either. Georgia sounds to be at fault here. They started military action, probably took the olympics into account when planning so they could try to be in a situation to avoid a large retaliation by russia. They would not have been stupid enough to go on the offensive against South Ossetia if they didn't assume the US would help them no matter what as well.
This is essentially my view of the conflict. Neither side is really in any better moral standing over the other, and any attempt to claim one side is in the right or wrong seems to be the result of whether that person likes or dislikes Russia.
The US seems to be in a pretty sticky situation since it is in their interests to not provoke Russia, but also in their interests to not abandon Georgia (a country who, after the US and British, has had the 3rd largest force in Iraq - a good ally). Looks like the US will be stuck giving some help to Georgia, and whatever help the US will give Georgia will only justify Russia's helping Iran in the future, especially if the conflict between the US and Iran intensifies any further.
Shit! No good news at all. The US needs to stay out of this.
Quote: from panicxparadox at 6:56 am on Aug. 8, 2008 Shit! No good news at all. The US needs to stay out of this. I don't even think the US has the resources to find Russia in Georgia whilst in Iraq. You guys have a budget deficit.
I don't even think the US has the resources to find Russia in Georgia whilst in Iraq. You guys have a budget deficit.
yes but you forget, it's BENEVOLENT USA: WORLD POLICE. They've gotta be in every conflict in the world, on the winning side, or they're letting the team down!
Oh here's McCain opening his trap "Today, news reports indicate that Russian military forces crossed an internationally-recognized border into the sovereign territory of Georgia. Russia should immediately and unconditionally cease its military operations and withdraw all forces from sovereign Georgian territory. What is most critical now is to avoid further confrontation between Russian and Georgian military forces. The consequences for Euro-Atlantic stability and security are grave. "The government of Georgia has called for a cease-fire and for a resumption of direct talks on South Ossetia with international mediators. The U.S. should immediately convene an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council to call on Russia to reverse course. The U.S. should immediately work with the EU and the OSCE to put diplomatic pressure on Russia to reverse this perilous course it has chosen. We should immediately call a meeting of the North Atlantic Council to assess Georgia's security and review measures NATO can take to contribute to stabilizing this very dangerous situation. Finally, the international community needs to establish a truly independent and neutral peacekeeping force in South Ossetia." http://tinyurl.com/576hv4
"Today, news reports indicate that Russian military forces crossed an internationally-recognized border into the sovereign territory of Georgia. Russia should immediately and unconditionally cease its military operations and withdraw all forces from sovereign Georgian territory. What is most critical now is to avoid further confrontation between Russian and Georgian military forces. The consequences for Euro-Atlantic stability and security are grave. "The government of Georgia has called for a cease-fire and for a resumption of direct talks on South Ossetia with international mediators. The U.S. should immediately convene an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council to call on Russia to reverse course. The U.S. should immediately work with the EU and the OSCE to put diplomatic pressure on Russia to reverse this perilous course it has chosen. We should immediately call a meeting of the North Atlantic Council to assess Georgia's security and review measures NATO can take to contribute to stabilizing this very dangerous situation. Finally, the international community needs to establish a truly independent and neutral peacekeeping force in South Ossetia."
"The government of Georgia has called for a cease-fire and for a resumption of direct talks on South Ossetia with international mediators. The U.S. should immediately convene an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council to call on Russia to reverse course. The U.S. should immediately work with the EU and the OSCE to put diplomatic pressure on Russia to reverse this perilous course it has chosen. We should immediately call a meeting of the North Atlantic Council to assess Georgia's security and review measures NATO can take to contribute to stabilizing this very dangerous situation. Finally, the international community needs to establish a truly independent and neutral peacekeeping force in South Ossetia."
http://tinyurl.com/576hv4
Quote: from panicxparadox at 6:56 am on Aug. 8, 2008 Shit! No good news at all. The US needs to stay out of this.you'd hope http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,399962,00.html Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili is expected to declare martial law within hours, according to the Georgian security council chief, Reuters reported. This comes after Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called on Russia Friday to halt attacks in South Ossetia, after Georgian troops entered the breakaway province in an attempt to crush separatist forces seeking control. Rice's announcement came as the European Union was working on a cease-fire with Georgia and South Ossetia separatists to end the violent conflict. Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, launched a surprise military offensive to retake South Ossetia and reportedly killed hundreds of people, triggering a ferocious counterattack from Russia that threatened to plunge the region into full-scale war. The United States was sending its top Caucasus envoy, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Matthew Bryza, to the region to try to end the bloodshed. Russia, which has granted citizenship to most of the region's residents, appeared to lay much of the responsibility for ending the fighting on Washington. In a telephone conversation with Rice, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Georgia must be convinced to withdraw its forces, according to a ministry statement. Georgia has about 2,000 troops in Iraq, making it the third-largest contributor to coalition forces after the U.S. and Britain. But Saakashvili said that the troops would be called home Saturday in the face of the South Ossetia fighting. Georgia, which borders the Black Sea between Turkey and Russia, was ruled by Moscow for most of the two centuries preceding the breakup of the Soviet Union. Georgia has angered Russia by seeking NATO membership — a bid Moscow regards as part of a Western effort to weaken its influence in the region. looks like the repukes are eager to get us into it. Anyone ready for another world war? Because with the war in iraq and aghanistan and russia at war we're getting there fast....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,399962,00.html
Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili is expected to declare martial law within hours, according to the Georgian security council chief, Reuters reported. This comes after Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called on Russia Friday to halt attacks in South Ossetia, after Georgian troops entered the breakaway province in an attempt to crush separatist forces seeking control. Rice's announcement came as the European Union was working on a cease-fire with Georgia and South Ossetia separatists to end the violent conflict. Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, launched a surprise military offensive to retake South Ossetia and reportedly killed hundreds of people, triggering a ferocious counterattack from Russia that threatened to plunge the region into full-scale war.
This comes after Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called on Russia Friday to halt attacks in South Ossetia, after Georgian troops entered the breakaway province in an attempt to crush separatist forces seeking control.
Rice's announcement came as the European Union was working on a cease-fire with Georgia and South Ossetia separatists to end the violent conflict.
Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, launched a surprise military offensive to retake South Ossetia and reportedly killed hundreds of people, triggering a ferocious counterattack from Russia that threatened to plunge the region into full-scale war.
The United States was sending its top Caucasus envoy, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Matthew Bryza, to the region to try to end the bloodshed. Russia, which has granted citizenship to most of the region's residents, appeared to lay much of the responsibility for ending the fighting on Washington. In a telephone conversation with Rice, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Georgia must be convinced to withdraw its forces, according to a ministry statement. Georgia has about 2,000 troops in Iraq, making it the third-largest contributor to coalition forces after the U.S. and Britain. But Saakashvili said that the troops would be called home Saturday in the face of the South Ossetia fighting. Georgia, which borders the Black Sea between Turkey and Russia, was ruled by Moscow for most of the two centuries preceding the breakup of the Soviet Union. Georgia has angered Russia by seeking NATO membership — a bid Moscow regards as part of a Western effort to weaken its influence in the region.
Russia, which has granted citizenship to most of the region's residents, appeared to lay much of the responsibility for ending the fighting on Washington.
In a telephone conversation with Rice, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Georgia must be convinced to withdraw its forces, according to a ministry statement.
Georgia has about 2,000 troops in Iraq, making it the third-largest contributor to coalition forces after the U.S. and Britain. But Saakashvili said that the troops would be called home Saturday in the face of the South Ossetia fighting.
Georgia, which borders the Black Sea between Turkey and Russia, was ruled by Moscow for most of the two centuries preceding the breakup of the Soviet Union. Georgia has angered Russia by seeking NATO membership — a bid Moscow regards as part of a Western effort to weaken its influence in the region.
looks like the repukes are eager to get us into it.
Anyone ready for another world war? Because with the war in iraq and aghanistan and russia at war we're getting there fast....
Your lack of knowledge shows. It is a small local conflict. It is not anything major. Ossetia is very small. not many people live there ethier.
What the fuck do you know about russia? nothing. stay in mexico please.
The russian army will quickly quell this situtition.
Quote: from Borislav at 1:16 pm on Aug. 8, 2008 What the fuck do you know about russia? nothing. stay in mexico please. This is a Kavkas affair. The russian army will quickly quell this situtition. I have full confidence in Dmitri. Everyone knows that if Russian is doing something, they're doing it for the wrong reasons. Someone needs to nuke you bastards. Then the cold war shit will end.
What the fuck do you know about russia? nothing. stay in mexico please. This is a Kavkas affair. The russian army will quickly quell this situtition. I have full confidence in Dmitri.
Everyone knows that if Russian is doing something, they're doing it for the wrong reasons.
Someone needs to nuke you bastards. Then the cold war shit will end.
Have you ever made a good post?
If we (usa) interfere.... We might get into another Cold war.
Why would we? Russia's been at war for quite some time, and as a whole Americans has been content to let various ethnic groups they've never heard of before fight wars over territories that they didn't know existed. I don't see why they would change anything for a country whose name causes most Americans to scoff "that's not a country, it's a state," in ignorant disbelief.
Quote: from Borislav at 2:16 pm on Aug. 8, 2008
LOL.
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