Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic One Man's Terrorist Is Another Man's Freedom Fighter Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]willz[/m] at 11:21 pm on Aug. 25, 2008[quote]America backed, and supplied Al Queda and Osama when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, he was viewed as a "freedom fighter". Now that he's tuned his attention to the USA he's a terrorist.[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post August Rush Posted at 9:25 am on Aug. 22, 2008 "One Man's Terrorist Is Another Man's Freedom Fighter" I can't find who said that but what do you think? The war topic got me thinking.. In my opinion War is never a good thing and I don't like how some countries try to cover up the reason for the invasion of IRAQ. Anyone with half a brain can work out its about America trying to take some control of the oil farms in the middle east.. thats simply it, 'terrorists' who attack America are simply trying to tell America to GTFO! I just wanted to se what you guys thought about the quote I used at the start.. Discuss.

Replies SocialistHero Posted at 8:36 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 The current columbian goverment is basically a puppet goverment for America. The American private contracters show that clearly. They dont really run drugs they tax the drug industry I dont agree with this at all. The fact is most Third world south American nations are the same way. lsd Posted at 8:33 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Quote: from SocialistHero at 8:32 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 There the good guys for fighting for independence from a clearly american imperialist state. How so? SocialistHero Posted at 8:32 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 There the good guys for fighting for independence from a clearly american imperialist state. Loud Dog Posted at 8:23 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Because involvement in kidnapping and the cocaine trade makes you the good guys. lsd Posted at 8:15 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Quote: from SocialistHero at 8:14 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Real freedom fighters are the Farc. in what way? SocialistHero Posted at 8:14 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Real freedom fighters are the Farc. Loud Dog Posted at 7:06 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Northern Ireland would be an example of where this phrase ends - once you start deliberately murdering innocent civilians, you don't get  to be called a freedom fighter any more. clomb Posted at 10:50 am on Aug. 28, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 1:41 am on Aug. 27, 2008 Quote: from Assaultrifle at 2:07 pm on Aug. 22, 2008 I agree. The media gives a very one sided view, just calling them terrorists. <b>Which they are but never really reasons why they are. </b>America just wants a base in the middle east, so they are a kind of threat to other middle eastern countries and of course the oil. I hate the damn government.    Are you unaware of the definition of a terrorist? A terrorist is someone who primarily uses terror, especially on civilians, in order to scare and pressure a group of people into giving them what they want.    AL-Qaeda and various insurgent groups in Iraq are therefore terrorists because they primarily use suicide bombings and car bombs in civilian areas in order to terrorize entire cities of people. They distribute sick, terrible propaganda such as videos of non-muslims being executed with AKs and also videos of people getting their heads sawed off with knives, in order to instill fear in people.    As for the quote, yeah i suppose the terrorists see themselves as freedom fighters but who cares? They're still just some fucking terrorists       Kind of like when the American government targeted the citizens of Iraq and attempted to starve them out with illegal sanctions? If your going for 'bad things America has done to the Iraqi people', I'd probably go the illegal invasion which killed an estimated 650'000 people. Then the hasty withdrawal plans that leave the country and its populence in no better condition than when they entered it, except now its prone to a bloody civil war. katyduck Posted at 10:41 am on Aug. 28, 2008 Just look at Northern Ireland. Perfect example. Vordhosbn Posted at 3:19 am on Aug. 28, 2008 Quote: from Mabzie at 12:40 am on Aug. 27, 2008 Quote: from Assaultrifle at 5:07 pm on Aug. 22, 2008 [ A terrorist is someone who primarily uses terror, especially on civilians, in order to scare and pressure a group of people into giving them what they want.         U.S. Government? What? heh. you read my mind. whoisabs Posted at 1:41 am on Aug. 27, 2008 Quote: from Assaultrifle at 2:07 pm on Aug. 22, 2008 I agree. The media gives a very one sided view, just calling them terrorists. <b>Which they are but never really reasons why they are. </b>America just wants a base in the middle east, so they are a kind of threat to other middle eastern countries and of course the oil. I hate the damn government. Are you unaware of the definition of a terrorist? A terrorist is someone who primarily uses terror, especially on civilians, in order to scare and pressure a group of people into giving them what they want. AL-Qaeda and various insurgent groups in Iraq are therefore terrorists because they primarily use suicide bombings and car bombs in civilian areas in order to terrorize entire cities of people. They distribute sick, terrible propaganda such as videos of non-muslims being executed with AKs and also videos of people getting their heads sawed off with knives, in order to instill fear in people. As for the quote, yeah i suppose the terrorists see themselves as freedom fighters but who cares? They're still just some fucking terrorists   Kind of like when the American government targeted the citizens of Iraq and attempted to starve them out with illegal sanctions? Mabzie Posted at 12:40 am on Aug. 27, 2008 Quote: from Assaultrifle at 5:07 pm on Aug. 22, 2008 [ A terrorist is someone who primarily uses terror, especially on civilians, in order to scare and pressure a group of people into giving them what they want.   U.S. Government? What? lsd Posted at 12:22 am on Aug. 27, 2008 Quote: from willz at 10:23 pm on Aug. 26, 2008     Here you go...   http://archive.capecodonline.com/special/terror/binladen17b.htm" target="_top">http://http://archive.capecodonline.com/special/terror/binladen17b.htm   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_assistance_to_Osama_bin_Laden" target="_top">http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_assistance_to_Osama_bin_Laden   Not conclusive proof, but things like this are almost impossible to prove. 1. Your first link doesn't cite any sources and is wrong by most contemporary accounts. Your second link actually says that there was no direct connection between the Arab Afghans and the United States. 2. The US (and Iran) both backed what became known as the Northern Alliance, native Afghans fighting against the Soviet occupation. The Taliban were a creation of the Pakistani intelligence who allied with Arab and Pakistani fundamentalist islamists. The group that was to become the Taliban were led by Mullah Omar and would be an ally to Osama bin Laden. These two sides, the native Islamist Afghans and Arab Afghans were both fiercely anti American and received aid from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. The Northern Alliance was a hodgepodge of Afghan ethnic groups and it's ideology was rooted in nationalism more than Islamism. They were led by Ahmed Shah Massoud with support from the US and Iran. Yes, these two groups sided with each other during the Soviet occupation, but let's not forget that the forces of communist Mao and western-leaning Shang Kai Shek put their civil war on hold to fight Japanese occupation. Massoud was pro-American whereas Mullah Omar and Osama bin Laden were always anti American. Osama bin Laden and Zawahiri also both categorically deny receiving any aid from the United States. It was the nationalist Afghanis that we funneled money to, the Islamists were allied with the ISS and Arab countries. willz Posted at 10:23 pm on Aug. 26, 2008 Quote: from lsd at 7:37 am on Aug. 27, 2008 Quote: from August Rush at 11:45 am on Aug. 26, 2008 Quote: from lsd at 7:32 pm on Aug. 26, 2008 Quote: from willz at 11:21 pm on Aug. 25, 2008 America backed, and supplied Al Queda and Osama when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, he was viewed as a "freedom fighter". Now that he's tuned his attention to the USA he's a terrorist.   no we didn't.    lol, oh yes you did! provide a link Here you go... http://archive.capecodonline.com/special/terror/binladen17b.htm" target="_top">http://http://archive.capecodonline.com/special/terror/binladen17b.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_assistance_to_Osama_bin_Laden" target="_top">http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_assistance_to_Osama_bin_Laden Not conclusive proof, but things like this are almost impossible to prove. dragonking Posted at 5:22 pm on Aug. 26, 2008 I made a topic relating to this.  It's true.  George Washington and the other founding fathers were terrorists... to the British.  They were/are freedom fighters to Americans. Most recent 15 of 38 previous replies displayed.