Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic So why the hell would anyone vote for McCain? Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]whoisabs[/m] at 10:37 pm on Aug. 28, 2008[quote]The biggest thing that McCain's time in the military has given him as far as qualifications to be president is executive experience, as he had to run large organizations under his command.[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post eBay Posted at 10:12 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 He's an old turd that's awkward as shit on stage and has a creepy smile. Not only that, his policy sucks. How the fuck are you going to take care of our country with us spending trillions on some middle east shit hole? Most republicans are hicks and white trash that come from the stupid states anyway, or the CEOs getting paid 20 million executive compensation and refuse to have their $$ taxed.

Replies jakelong Posted at 12:54 am on Aug. 30, 2008 Quote: from MrJollyRancher at 10:13 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Solid American values. That is why. I got your solid american value right here.   obvious child Posted at 11:32 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 8:05 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 One of the biggest problems with the military budget comes from contractors. You're missing something though. Cheney made a good point about Contractors, especially private military firms like Blackwater and Executive Outcomes. We pay them for a service. One time deal. If their employees get wounded or killed we as a government pay nothing. We have no liability or obligation to these contractors. That is a BIG ASS cost saving. Neodymie Posted at 11:09 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from runthespread at 10:55 am on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from neodymie at 12:17 am on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from MrIndigo at 11:50 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Because he's not a socialist like Obama.       And those CEOs deserve their money. Stop trying to rob other people of their belongings just because you envy them.       All of you socialist deserves to be poor and rot in poverty!       If I don't make it when I get out of college, then I deserve to be poor. I'm not going to whine and try to steal the good from people who are more successful than me. One should blame NO ONE but himself for everything that goes wrong in one's life.       If liberals stop whining all the the time maybe they'll actually get something done.    QFT   While there's some truth in this, it's not ALL up to the individual. Think if you were born into poverty and your live revolved around you unable to even go to college (like this guy mentions as if it's a given) and work whatever job you can get just to put your earnings back into your family. The truth is that Capitalism creates a divide, and if the poor are doing the dirty work, the rich can spend a little more on them to help the gap. You don't see ignoring the poor as a problem until it's in your face, you can't ignore it, it's part of the society we live in. You know what i understand that and I'm by no means against all forms of welfare and such but our current system is just ridiculous. There's people that go cash a social security check and go buy drugs. There's people that just live off of unemployment. That's not right. It's supposed to be help not a free ride. Then look at Obama's plan. Windfall taxes on oil companies to give American's a thousand dollars. Give me a break. That's redistribution of wealth plain and simple. It's a load of shit. There's no reason to punish oil companies for doing well. Kind of a side note but all these people bitch about them having record profits yet no one seems to stop and think and equate that to record consumption. Demand has decreased quite a bit, will they have record profits for this quarter? No way. runthespread Posted at 10:55 am on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from neodymie at 12:17 am on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from MrIndigo at 11:50 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Because he's not a socialist like Obama.    And those CEOs deserve their money. Stop trying to rob other people of their belongings just because you envy them.  All of you socialist deserves to be poor and rot in poverty!  If I don't make it when I get out of college, then I deserve to be poor. I'm not going to whine and try to steal the good from people who are more successful than me. One should blame NO ONE but himself for everything that goes wrong in one's life.  If liberals stop whining all the the time maybe they'll actually get something done. QFT While there's some truth in this, it's not ALL up to the individual. Think if you were born into poverty and your live revolved around you unable to even go to college (like this guy mentions as if it's a given) and work whatever job you can get just to put your earnings back into your family. The truth is that Capitalism creates a divide, and if the poor are doing the dirty work, the rich can spend a little more on them to help the gap. You don't see ignoring the poor as a problem until it's in your face, you can't ignore it, it's part of the society we live in. Neodymie Posted at 12:17 am on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from MrIndigo at 11:50 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Because he's not a socialist like Obama. And those CEOs deserve their money. Stop trying to rob other people of their belongings just because you envy them.   All of you socialist deserves to be poor and rot in poverty!   If I don't make it when I get out of college, then I deserve to be poor. I'm not going to whine and try to steal the good from people who are more successful than me. One should blame NO ONE but himself for everything that goes wrong in one's life.   If liberals stop whining all the the time maybe they'll actually get something done. QFT MrIndigo Posted at 11:50 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Because he's not a socialist like Obama. And those CEOs deserve their money. Stop trying to rob other people of their belongings just because you envy them. All of you socialist deserves to be poor and rot in poverty! If I don't make it when I get out of college, then I deserve to be poor. I'm not going to whine and try to steal the good from people who are more successful than me. One should blame NO ONE but himself for everything that goes wrong in one's life. If liberals stop whining all the the time maybe they'll actually get something done. WhiteDwarf Posted at 11:13 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 11:05 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 One of the biggest problems with the military budget comes from contractors. People who get paid multiples of what they used to make in the military for doing the same damn job, or even worse are the ones such as the cooks in KBR that get paid $60-70k/yr. Hate to break it to you but the government spends more than 70k per year on the individual servicemember in direct and indirect costs in most cases. And that isn't one of the "biggest problems", there are so many bigger problems I could list right now if it weren't for it being near midnight. whoisabs Posted at 11:05 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 One of the biggest problems with the military budget comes from contractors.  People who get paid multiples of what they used to make in the military for doing the same damn job, or even worse are the ones such as the cooks in KBR that get paid $60-70k/yr. WhiteDwarf Posted at 11:02 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 1.4 billion? That would cover like 3 days in Iraq. GeneCosta Posted at 11:00 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 10:57 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Kind of hard to give tax cuts to those who don't really pay much in taxes. Ah, don't go there, Rush Limbaugh. The bottom 90% pays more in taxes than they own in wealth. The income tax is purposely done as an attack on labor; capitalists make their money from investments at a much lower rate. whoisabs Posted at 10:59 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Quote: from littlenicky40 at 10:56 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 1:46 am on Aug. 29, 2008 54% of American taxes go to the military?    That's a pretty funny lie right there. My mistake, mixed 2 thigns up. 550 billion dollars a year. Almost 10% of all taxes(I was previously looking at only one form of tax) My point stands. There is no need for the US to force themselves all over the world, therefore no need for 550 billion dollars to be spent on it, when the homeland has MANY areas that need improvement that could use JUST half that money. The US needs to figure out a way to slash its non-discretionary spending, and eliminate spending on things that aren't contained within Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution. GeneCosta Posted at 10:58 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Quote: from littlenicky40 at 10:56 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 1:46 am on Aug. 29, 2008 54% of American taxes go to the military?    That's a pretty funny lie right there. My mistake, mixed 2 thigns up. 550 billion dollars a year. Almost 10% of all taxes(I was previously looking at only one form of tax) My point stands. There is no need for the US to force themselves all over the world, therefore no need for 550 billion dollars to be spent on it, when the homeland has MANY areas that need improvement that could use JUST half that money. 550 billion is more than 10%. That also doesn't take into account discretionary spending, which is either focused on corporate subsidization or military campaigns. whoisabs Posted at 10:57 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Kind of hard to give tax cuts to those who don't really pay much in taxes. Niick Posted at 10:56 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 1:46 am on Aug. 29, 2008 54% of American taxes go to the military? That's a pretty funny lie right there. My mistake, mixed 2 thigns up. 550 billion dollars a year. Almost 10% of all taxes(I was previously looking at only one form of tax) My point stands. There is no need for the US to force themselves all over the world, therefore no need for 550 billion dollars to be spent on it, when the homeland has MANY areas that need improvement that could use JUST half that money. GeneCosta Posted at 10:56 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 10:51 pm on Aug. 28, 2008 Too bad Bush isn't running in 2008, and McCain has a pretty long history of pushing for slashed spending. Was that before or after he was against Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy and well-to-do?   McCain is just another shill for corporations; Obama, too (that's plainly obvious), but if there's going to be lopsided tax cuts it's better to have them on the bottom than the top. It increases demand's ability to purchase and save. Most recent 15 of 69 previous replies displayed.