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Prince o palities Posted at 11:52 am on Aug. 21, 2008
For those of you who haven't logged on for the past couple and don't know what I'm talking about, you can disregard this.  However, for those who have been on in the past few days for the controversy surrounding nudity on LiveWire, particularly nudity in art, you may consider this my personal apology for my part in the turmoil that it caused.

I cannot speak for any other moderators involved, but for my part I want to apologize for my role in bringing not only offensive images to LiveWire, but for the chaos that was caused as result of those images being posted.  I admit that it was a puerile way of going about making my point, inconsistent not only with standard moderating procedures but with good form in general.  For those who had a positive opinion of me that was negatively impacted by this ordeal, I truly regret that any respect was lost and only ask for the opportunity to rejuvenate that positive opinion over time.

More importantly, if this has negatively impacted anyone's opinion with the moderating team as a whole, I would hope that you could separate the unapproved actions of a few rabble-rousing moderators from the team as a whole and the system in general.  Some of you who were appalled with the behavior of the moderators taking part should know that you have counterparts on the moderating team who were just as appalled, if not moreso for knowing how deviant the behavior was.

If anyone is still confused about the policy, the revised rules regarding nudity on LiveWire may be found in this topic.

Again, my genuine hope now is that the site may return to a normal, smooth state of operation and its members to a typical interaction with the moderating team (be that positive or negative).

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iconoclast Posted at 9:31 pm on Aug. 30, 2008
Quote: from 4est at 3:53 am on Aug. 23, 2008

Quote: from katyduck at 12:46 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

You've seriously damaged something that the other 30 of us have worked tirelessly for years to build up. I know that I haven't been trying my damnedest for nearly three years to put the trust, respect and decency into moderating just for my efforts to be mindlessly tossed aside in a few hours.  

 That said, I appreciate your apology, which for the most part does sound sincere.

 Just give me a few months to cool down.


You guys have built up fuck all, nobody respects any of it.


i totally agree with this

katy is just being her usual over-dramatic lame self

 

4est Posted at 7:22 pm on Aug. 30, 2008
Quote: from RedNoir at 10:33 pm on Aug. 29, 2008

Quote: from 4est at 12:53 am on Aug. 23,  
   

 It makes me disgusted with the world today that this is even a fucking issue. It kills me a little inside every time I am reminded that society has developed into a state that covers that eyes when a natural human bodypart is shown.  

 Embrace the human body, clothed or not, motherfuckers.

Maybe you are blind? Your computer reads your world to you? Or you can not read?
I clearly said there is nothing wrong with the human body. But when it is portrayed in distasteful ways, that is when it gets ugly. That is when people shy away from it. THAT is when people complain.


The root word of distasteful is taste - something that varies for everyone.

RedNoir Posted at 10:33 pm on Aug. 29, 2008
Quote: from 4est at 12:53 am on Aug. 23,
 

It makes me disgusted with the world today that this is even a fucking issue. It kills me a little inside every time I am reminded that society has developed into a state that covers that eyes when a natural human bodypart is shown.  

Embrace the human body, clothed or not, motherfuckers.

Maybe you are blind? Your computer reads your world to you? Or you can not read?
I clearly said there is nothing wrong with the human body. But when it is portrayed in distasteful ways, that is when it gets ugly. That is when people shy away from it. THAT is when people complain.

RedNoir Posted at 10:30 pm on Aug. 29, 2008
Quote: from shotgun therapy at 12:21 am on Aug. 23, 2008

Quote: from RedNoir at 4:27 pm on Aug. 22, 2008

I fell that P-O-P should NOT have apologized for others actions. They should be FORCED to apologize for their childish actions + abuse of power(s).

Thank god we don't have you for an admin then.


I didn't really mean that they should be forced... *sigh* I didn't mean it that way. I meant that they should apologize... but I mean either way what's done is done and move past it already.

Prince o palities Posted at 2:00 pm on Aug. 29, 2008
Only white.  Let's not discount that.
iconoclast Posted at 9:16 pm on Aug. 28, 2008
price o palities is political and charismatic just like obama
Prince o palities Posted at 6:59 pm on Aug. 28, 2008
I'm so happy to know that this topic isn't dying...
TheOtherHorseman Posted at 1:30 pm on Aug. 27, 2008
Quote: from jamesish at 3:58 pm on Aug. 27, 2008

Quote: from The Samsoniteman at 3:51 pm on Aug. 27, 2008

This controversy can only be resolved with immediate distribution of nude pictures of Prince. It's only fair. Think of the children.

 
How is this going to help again?


damnit to hell do I need to bring out the chart again

hI jAMES Posted at 12:58 pm on Aug. 27, 2008
Quote: from The Samsoniteman at 3:51 pm on Aug. 27, 2008

This controversy can only be resolved with immediate distribution of nude pictures of Prince. It's only fair. Think of the children.


How is this going to help again?

The Samsoniteman Posted at 12:51 pm on Aug. 27, 2008
This controversy can only be resolved with immediate distribution of nude pictures of Prince. It's only fair. Think of the children.
marshmellowman Posted at 6:21 am on Aug. 25, 2008
I actually caught the start and end of this before I left for Reading. That said I have to say that I am ashamed that a public apology had to be made. Whilst this is a teen forum, the art was tasteful and not obscene. It wasn't porn and shouldn't be classed as such.

It wasn't a good idea to start exploiting the lack of a better acceptable use policy by the moderators which then was caught on by everyone else, but I do have to chuckle at those that are outraged by it. There is no such thing as a perfect forum, and it's debacles like these that will only make LiveWire a better place.

Bearsy Posted at 5:26 am on Aug. 24, 2008
I want me and Rasta's naked fairy back so bad
4est Posted at 12:55 am on Aug. 23, 2008
Besides, to put it into perspective, some of the topics in the teen sexuality forum are going to make a bunch of 13 year olds a lot more horny/corrupt/exposed than a picture of a naked fairy.

Oh, and by the way, my mom has a tattoo of a naked fairy riding a dolphin on her wrist. I guess we should set up a mobile perimeter around her, in case a minor walks by while she's wearing a t-shirt, huh?

4est Posted at 12:53 am on Aug. 23, 2008
Quote: from katyduck at 12:46 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

You've seriously damaged something that the other 30 of us have worked tirelessly for years to build up. I know that I haven't been trying my damnedest for nearly three years to put the trust, respect and decency into moderating just for my efforts to be mindlessly tossed aside in a few hours.

That said, I appreciate your apology, which for the most part does sound sincere.  

Just give me a few months to cool down.


You guys have built up fuck all, nobody respects any of it.


Quote: from RedNoir at 4:27 pm on Aug. 22, 2008


FIRST!  
NO nudity allowed. I don't f-ing understand why people can not get that through their head! NO NUDITY!

Yet still people try to get around it!

SECOND!

If you want to see nudity, go to a porn site, or take off  
your clothes and look in the mirror. Don't bring it here. There are 13+ year olds who should not be exposed to those images. THAT IS WHY THE RULE(S) IS/ARE IN EFFECT!

The reason why there is no nudity allowed here, is not to hinder people from expressing their individuality/personality, etc. The internet is different from real life. There is nothing wrong with the human body.  
However, some images, such as pornographic images, do NOT portray the human body in a beautiful/tasteful way.
When you post pics like that on the internet, you have to have permission/qualifications to do that, (like a porn site, etc.)

THIS IS A TEEN SITE. look at the top of your browser.
IT SAYS: TEEN AND COLLEGE!!!

So 13-26 go here, the majority of which are under 21.
So I believe, that NO NUDITY is a good policy, including so-called "art" where some woman has her legs cocked open showing her disgusting, ungroomed bush. Just because it is painted, that does not make the image any less NUDITY/PORNOGRAPHY.

There is also a whole "abuse of power" thing that I could get into, but that is for another time.

I fell that P-O-P should NOT have apologized for others actions. They should be FORCED to apologize for their childish actions + abuse of power(s).


Grow the fuck up. Paintings of naked people does not equal pornography. If you want to see what pornography is, email me.

It makes me disgusted with the world today that this is even a fucking issue. It kills me a little inside every time I am reminded that society has developed into a state that covers that eyes when a natural human bodypart is shown.

Embrace the human body, clothed or not, motherfuckers.

4est Posted at 12:35 am on Aug. 23, 2008
Quote: from snowfish at 11:55 am on Aug. 21, 2008

your apology offends me more than any of your previous actions. I really wish mods would stop being such pussies.
Ditto.
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