Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Should mods be allowed to close their own MERs? Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]iconoclast[/m] at 6:01 pm on Nov. 13, 2008[quote]Quote: from [m]The Professional[/m] at 8:13 pm on Nov. 13, 2008[quote]Quote: from [m]prisoner of hss[/m] at 5:38 pm on Nov. 13, 2008[quote]mods do sometimes cover each others backs, after being here for 3+years this is obvious, but not all the time[/quote] Do you have any -recent- examples of abuse that was covered up by other mods? (Recent meaning since I've been on the mod team, since I can't speak about times before that.)[/quote] yeah, one example being tons of stuff with insertnamehere, and some of the crap you did[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post Bearsy Posted at 10:52 am on Nov. 13, 2008 I don't think so. This is an informal poll.

Replies iconoclast Posted at 10:17 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from audrey820 at 12:58 am on Nov. 14, 2008 1- I can definitely say that Jesse isn't biased against you at all. You probably have more of an issue with what he considers spam. well i dont think hes consciously 'biased' but due to past stuff he has a tendency to delete my shit pretty fast 2-insertnamehere. His stuff was never ignored at all. I don't know if you know it, but he was reprimanded and many mods spoke out against the way he treated you. That situation was never ignored, either you weren't aware of the action which was taken or you wanted more action. i wanted more drastic action, some shit happened and he was threatened with demotion if he did it again, then he did it again and completely got away with it 3-katyduck is one of the best SLs to ever use LW. She's offered incredibly high quality advice to many users. this is extremely offset by her nasty, rotten disposition and tendency to hold meaningless grudges over a long period of time. shes a fucking two face, 'supportive' and nice on the one hand, but a nasty, nasty bitch on the other whoisabs Posted at 10:05 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 audrey is a hater who give lovins anymore :\ audrey820 Posted at 9:58 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 I didn't read all of this. But hss... 1- I can definitely say that Jesse isn't biased against you at all. You probably have more of an issue with what he considers spam. To be honest, he and I have just disagreed about that recently, which shows that there are many opinions on that issue. It's not personal. Jesse is one of the most lenient moderators on the entire team. You would definitely rather have him moderating your stuff than anyone else. Idk if you're just trolling about him for a laugh, but you definitely don't see everything if you think he's against you. 2-insertnamehere. His stuff was never ignored at all. I don't know if you know it, but he was reprimanded and many mods spoke out against the way he treated you. That situation was never ignored, either you weren't aware of the action which was taken or you wanted more action. But I remember that he was threatened with a demotion and mods were pissed about his behavior. 3-katyduck is one of the best SLs to ever use LW. She's offered incredibly high quality advice to many users. The fact that she expects high quality advice from SLs shows her dedication to keeping the support system as good as possible. iconoclast Posted at 8:02 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from wolverineh8ter at 10:33 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 10:20 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 thats because you pretend that its some kind of quantum physics shit It isn't quantum physics, but at the same time there is a lot that goes on behind the scenes.  Enforcing the rules of a large community of people and trying to come to a consensus with 30 different points of view on many different issues on how we act is very hard.  Topics can get up to 15 pages of debating ideas and points brought up. We have to take into account legality, member safety, etc and we do this all with a relative lack of direction from administration. It isn't mindless blind enforcement of black and white rules, and it requires know how. Why don't you make an effort to try to become a mod if the way it's run is so horrible? er, in most topics, thats not a big deal, there are a few more difficult ones, but most of it is fucking easy and of course it requires common sense that a lot of idiots dont use, and i pretty much know already what goes on behind the scenes californication Posted at 7:45 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Post from this position was omitted due to content violations Wolf Posted at 7:33 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from prisoner of hss at 10:20 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 thats because you pretend that its some kind of quantum physics shit It isn't quantum physics, but at the same time there is a lot that goes on behind the scenes. Enforcing the rules of a large community of people and trying to come to a consensus with 30 different points of view on many different issues on how we act is very hard. Topics can get up to 15 pages of debating ideas and points brought up. We have to take into account legality, member safety, etc and we do this all with a relative lack of direction from administration. It isn't mindless blind enforcement of black and white rules, and it requires know how. Why don't you make an effort to try to become a mod if the way it's run is so horrible? californication Posted at 7:33 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Post from this position was omitted due to content violations iconoclast Posted at 7:20 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from The Professional at 10:17 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Okay Hss. Nothing more can really be said, I'd just be repeating myself. It's rather clear to me, and I'm sure clear to the majority, that you are speaking very much from a outside looking in perspective - and that is hardly ever accurate. thats because you pretend that its some kind of quantum physics shit The Professional Posted at 7:17 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Okay Hss. Nothing more can really be said, I'd just be repeating myself.  It's rather clear to me, and I'm sure clear to the majority, that you are speaking very much from a outside looking in perspective - and that is hardly ever accurate. iconoclast Posted at 7:13 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from The Professional at 10:02 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Hss, if I went -out of my way- to abuse you (again, risking my position and reputation), then I'd have to have a pretty strong dislike for you. The last thing I'd be doing is defending you if I would go to such links to abuse you. Common sense should tell you this. Second: If you honestly believe that viewing something from the outside looking in gives you more experience than someone who has almost a year of first hand experience and interaction, then I'm fairly sure there is nothing I can do to convince you otherwise - but the idea of that is laughable. Just because I've been watching politics for 3 years doesn't mean I have more of an understanding than a actual politician. But, as they say, it's easy to arm-chair quarterback. going "out of your way"? hardly. its easy as fuck to delete a few junk topics and give some bullshit informal warning, especially if a bunch of the mods are morons already and agree. its hardly common sense, you act like this is some big thing, looking like a moron for defending some idiot is much worse than doing some bullshit that no one cares about and yes i do, you sound like one of those who think moderation is some 'special thing', i know pretty much everything about this mod crap because ive spoken extensively to like 20 about it poor comparison - politics involves many things and requires experience, moderation is a joke thanks The Professional Posted at 7:02 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Hss, if I went -out of my way- to abuse you (again, risking my position and reputation), then I'd have to have a pretty strong dislike for you.  The last thing I'd be doing is defending you if I would go to such links to abuse you.  Common sense should tell you this. Second:  If you honestly believe that viewing something from the outside looking in gives you more experience than someone who has almost a year of first hand experience and interaction, then I'm fairly sure there is nothing I can do to convince you otherwise - but the idea of that is laughable.  Just because I've been watching politics for 3 years doesn't mean I have more of an understanding than a actual politician.   But, as they say, it's easy to arm-chair quarterback. iconoclast Posted at 6:56 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from The Professional at 9:50 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 First comment: Not quite. I could easily have remained silent, or easily argued the other side (rarely is there no opposition to an argument, it's simple to join the opposing side). Second comment: This just shows you really don't understand how the mod team here works, Hss. Ask any moderator if "no one gives a shit" when someone abuses their position - I can almost guarantee you'll get the same response from every moderator on the team. well maybe you happened to be on and like arguing, and no, it does seem when a mod does something really really fucking random and stupid theres often unilateral opposition to it or maybe you just think furrypanther is a dumbass like much of the mod team does or other things second: i actually understand a lot more about how this mod shit works than you probably, given how many ive known over the years, and no, for trivial shit like informal warnings and topic deletions where its not a valuable topic anyway they dont really care The Professional Posted at 6:50 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 First comment:  Not quite.  I could easily have remained silent, or easily argued the other side (rarely is there no opposition to an argument, it's simple to join the opposing side). Second comment: This just shows you really don't understand how the mod team here works, Hss.  Ask any moderator if "no one gives a shit" when someone abuses their position - I can almost guarantee you'll get the same response from every moderator on the team. iconoclast Posted at 6:39 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 Quote: from The Professional at 9:37 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 That reasoning doesn't make sense to me. If I had it out for you badly enough to falsely delete topics, risking my reputation on the mod team and my position, why would I bother to argue your side on certain occasions? because if someone fucks up bad and the majority agrees, youd look like an idiot not to and it hardly risks your reputation, because few people really give a fuck The Professional Posted at 6:37 pm on Nov. 13, 2008 That reasoning doesn't make sense to me.  If I had it out for you badly enough to falsely delete topics, risking my reputation on the mod team and my position, why would I bother to argue your side on certain occasions? Most recent 15 of 37 previous replies displayed.