Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic A Question on Grammar Who/Whom POINTS Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]Jettie12[/m] at 8:31 pm on Dec. 1, 2008[quote]All my points for whoever (whomever?) may assuage my grammatical conundrum. In a recent topic I posted this: [quote]To whoever's post happens above roflfuckyou's, if she is to post in this topic.[/quote] Should it be whoever's or whomever's?  [/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post Jettie12 Posted at 8:31 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 All my points for whoever (whomever?) may assuage my grammatical conundrum. In a recent topic I posted this: To whoever's post happens above roflfuckyou's, if she is to post in this topic. Should it be whoever's or whomever's?

Replies cherryD Posted at 7:31 am on Dec. 3, 2008 There's usually two subjects in that sentence, right? So if you are not talking about the main subject, then it's whomever... Colleen35 Posted at 8:44 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 'to which ever person (obj) whose (possessive) post...' 'person' suspended in ellipsis, 'whose' + 'ever' --> "whoever's" crazyboy1992 Posted at 8:42 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 whomever's dianabitch Posted at 8:38 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 most people say whoever, but its "whomever". Colleen35 Posted at 8:36 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 The case given here is a use of English possessive, which is formed by adding an -'s suffix to the subjective form of the word.  'Whoever' is subjective, where 'whomever' is objective. For the record, in most English dialects, 'whomever' is more or less defunct.  I would say that it's generally appropriate to not use it at all. hi sarah Posted at 8:33 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 i told you to ask Praise the Lard. will you ever listen to me? PotPom Posted at 8:32 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 i say whoever.... glowinthedark Posted at 8:32 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Either way, it should be GLOWINTHEDARK that gets points. I freakin' tried. Praise the Lard Posted at 8:31 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 OK did some research on the argument, and it hit me; the original sentence you gave is not grammatically correct, regardless of the whomever/whoever conflict. Once you fix the sentence, you can figure out if the whomever/whoever clause is the subject or object. If it's the subject, then it's whoever. If it's the object, then it's whomever. I think. All 9 previous replies displayed.