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Jettie12 Posted at 8:31 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
All my points for whoever (whomever?) may assuage my grammatical conundrum.

In a recent topic I posted this:


To whoever's post happens above roflfuckyou's, if she is to post in this topic.

Should it be whoever's or whomever's?  

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cherryD Posted at 7:31 am on Dec. 3, 2008
There's usually two subjects in that sentence, right? So if you are not talking about the main subject, then it's whomever...
Colleen35 Posted at 8:44 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
'to which ever person (obj) whose (possessive) post...'

'person' suspended in ellipsis, 'whose' + 'ever' --> "whoever's"

crazyboy1992 Posted at 8:42 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
whomever's
dianabitch Posted at 8:38 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
most people say whoever, but its "whomever".
Colleen35 Posted at 8:36 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
The case given here is a use of English possessive, which is formed by adding an -'s suffix to the subjective form of the word.  'Whoever' is subjective, where 'whomever' is objective.

For the record, in most English dialects, 'whomever' is more or less defunct.  I would say that it's generally appropriate to not use it at all.

roflfuckyou Posted at 8:33 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
i told you to ask Praise the Lard.

will you ever listen to me?

PotPom Posted at 8:32 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
i say whoever....
glowinthedark Posted at 8:32 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
Either way, it should be GLOWINTHEDARK that gets points.


I freakin' tried.

Praise the Lard Posted at 8:31 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
OK did some research on the argument, and it hit me; the original sentence you gave is not grammatically correct, regardless of the whomever/whoever conflict. Once you fix the sentence, you can figure out if the whomever/whoever clause is the subject or object. If it's the subject, then it's whoever. If it's the object, then it's whomever. I think.
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