Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic evolution Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]shadow heart[/m] at 10:47 am on Sep. 24, 2008[quote]Some creationists genuinely believe that fossils etc. are all fake, and that they've planted by God so that he can find out who the true believers really are :rolleyes: This is a true fact and but who would be crazy enough to belive it.[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post shadow heart Posted at 9:03 am on Sep. 24, 2008 ok so in a school run by a church they dont teach evolution coz they say its wrong in the bible but i think the should have to coz children should be able to make there own minds up about it what do you think?

Replies nikki Posted at 1:49 am on Sep. 27, 2008 Quote: from obvious child at 11:16 pm on Sep. 26, 2008 Oh but there's a problem with that. If you teach high school kids that Christanity is just another religion and place genesis next to Norse origin myth, many Christians in the US throw tantrums. The only way you're going to placate many Christians in the US is if you teach Christanity as fact and by itself. This is what I hate about America. Who cares if you upset some Christians? You could equally argue that you offend those who don't believe in evolution by teaching it as fact. It SHOULD be taught along with the other "creation" stories of other religions, regardless of what your dedicated Christians believe. obvious child Posted at 3:16 pm on Sep. 26, 2008 Oh but there's a problem with that. If you teach high school kids that Christanity is just another religion and place genesis next to Norse origin myth, many Christians in the US throw tantrums. The only way you're going to placate many Christians in the US is if you teach Christanity as fact and by itself. nikki Posted at 2:28 pm on Sep. 26, 2008 In England, classes like that are compulsory - it's nothing to do with "Sunday school" - it's part of the curriculum, as are the "creation" stories of all the major religions. It's something people should have to learn about, otherwise it just leads to ignorance, I don't understand how people can argue that it should be excluded from the curriculum. obvious child Posted at 2:20 pm on Sep. 26, 2008 Quote: from Nikki at 10:26 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from obvious child at 3:10 am on Sep. 25, 2008 Nikki, what exactly would you teach about Creationism?   - The creation story as told in the bible. - The fact that creationists themselves take it 100% literally whereas others believe it to be a shortened version of what happened (ie. 7 days not literally being 7 days) - The different creationist theories - not just the Christian version, for example. - The fact that some Christians believe fossils to have been planted by God as a "trick". I agree it's not factual, but people need to have both ideas explained to them, even if they believe one or the other to be bullshit. So you are saying we should have sunday school in public schools? nikki Posted at 3:46 am on Sep. 25, 2008 I never argued that it should belong in a science class, just that it should be included on the school curriculum. TheAntiBarbie Posted at 3:04 am on Sep. 25, 2008 Quote: from Nikki at 4:26 am on Sep. 25, 2008 Quote: from obvious child at 3:10 am on Sep. 25, 2008 Nikki, what exactly would you teach about Creationism?   - The creation story as told in the bible. - The fact that creationists themselves take it 100% literally whereas others believe it to be a shortened version of what happened (ie. 7 days not literally being 7 days) - The different creationist theories - not just the Christian version, for example. - The fact that some Christians believe fossils to have been planted by God as a "trick". I agree it's not factual, but people need to have both ideas explained to them, even if they believe one or the other to be bullshit. I think that belongs more in a religion or even sociology class, not a science class. nikki Posted at 1:26 am on Sep. 25, 2008 Quote: from obvious child at 3:10 am on Sep. 25, 2008 Nikki, what exactly would you teach about Creationism? - The creation story as told in the bible. - The fact that creationists themselves take it 100% literally whereas others believe it to be a shortened version of what happened (ie. 7 days not literally being 7 days) - The different creationist theories - not just the Christian version, for example. - The fact that some Christians believe fossils to have been planted by God as a "trick". I agree it's not factual, but people need to have both ideas explained to them, even if they believe one or the other to be bullshit. obvious child Posted at 7:10 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 Nikki, what exactly would you teach about Creationism? It has no experiments. It has no actual facts. Essentially outside of religion, what factual science is there to teach? shadow heart Posted at 11:52 am on Sep. 24, 2008 yeah it would you would have to watch the people you love die over and over again. SpM Posted at 11:41 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Immortality would be frightfully dull in any case. shadow heart Posted at 11:38 am on Sep. 24, 2008 yeah your right it has to happen for the world to go one the earth needs its nutriance. SpM Posted at 11:34 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Nothing to be sad about. shadow heart Posted at 11:32 am on Sep. 24, 2008 we all will in time :( SpM Posted at 11:31 am on Sep. 24, 2008 I'll get around to it eventually. shadow heart Posted at 11:31 am on Sep. 24, 2008 hahaha no thanks i have things to live for. you do it? Most recent 15 of 112 previous replies displayed.