Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Useful Science Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]Dont Notice Me[/m] at 6:40 pm on June 10, 2008[quote]...i'm sure that's not the only thing they're working on[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post tkedwn119 Posted at 6:39 pm on June 10, 2008 Is it just me or should scientists do more useful things.  Like the particle accelerator that is being built to test the big bang theory, if something goes wrongs, we could all die.  Shouldn't we worry about that stuff after we invent reliable renewable energy?

Replies Moridin Posted at 1:51 am on June 11, 2008 Quote: from tkedwn119 at 4:39 am on June 11, 2008 Is it just me or should scientists do more useful things.  Like the particle accelerator that is being built to test the big bang theory, if something goes wrongs, we could all die.  Shouldn't we worry about that stuff after we invent reliable renewable energy? No, it is not for testing the big bang theory. No, it is not the case that we could all die from the testing. TheOtherHorseman Posted at 9:36 pm on June 10, 2008 Quote: from tkedwn119 at 9:51 pm on June 10, 2008 Quote: from medjai at 9:47 pm on June 10, 2008 No particle accelerator that man is currently capable of making could "kill us all" unless there's some new project I haven't heard of. Where have you been?  The one in Europe will likely either 1)recreate a mini bigbang or 2)create mini black holes wich will call the earth to consume it's self Every single source on the "potential threats" posed by the latest greatest particle accelerators usually eventually quotes the scientists involved, who mention that the risk of making the universe implode in on itself is only marginally greater than the risk due to random shit that happens in the Universe anyway. obvious child Posted at 9:30 pm on June 10, 2008 I'd love to see an explanation as to how a black hole so tiny that it disappears in less then a nanosecond could suck in sufficient mass quickly enough from a vacuum to survive more then a second. medjai Posted at 7:18 pm on June 10, 2008 Here's a legitimate study on the risks of the particle accelerator. It's conclusion? There's no basis for fear. http://doc.cern.ch/yellowrep/2003/2003-001/p1.pdf Event Horizon Posted at 7:17 pm on June 10, 2008 Quote: from tkedwn119 at 6:39 pm on June 10, 2008 Is it just me or should scientists do more useful things.  Like the particle accelerator that is being built to test the big bang theory, if something goes wrongs, we could all die.  Shouldn't we worry about that stuff after we invent reliable renewable energy? 1. You are a fool. the Particle accelerator can NOT kill us all. You've got your facts all mixed up and, well, wrong. 2. You make it seem like no one is trying to discover a way to create renewable energy...Its not like inventing the fork. Working around the laws of nature as we know them is not something that comes easily. medjai Posted at 7:14 pm on June 10, 2008 Read some actual articles on it instead of taking your television at face value like a retard. A few random idiotic scientists decided that they'd mystify this new innovation and make it out to be theoretically risky, when in fact any such discussions of earthly discussions are (by said scientist's own admissions) purely conjecture. On top of that, mini black holes aren't even the risk they they talked about, nor where they talking about the earth "consuming itself." They were conjecting retardedly that the accelerator could cause an imbalance in the "metavaccuum" and cause it to try to convert itself into a stabilized vaccuum, creating a multiple galaxy-wide catastrophe of complete destruction spreading at the speed of light for an indefinite if not nearly univerally distant period. It's like the old conjecture that a single hydrogen bomb might create a nearly infinite chain reaction and destroy the milky way. In other words, bullshit. BUT DISCOVERY SAID OTHERWISE! lol, you clearly weren't even paying attention to the program. tkedwn119 Posted at 7:09 pm on June 10, 2008 Quote: from medjai at 10:03 pm on June 10, 2008 Whoever told you that the new particle accelerator could devour the world if it fucked up was probably just joshing you. You realize that one of the stated goals of these mini big bang particle accelerator groups are in fact to intentionally create mini black holes. Guess what, they won't devour the earth. I doubt History, Discover, and NatGeo lie.  Plus a guy sued the company doing it for endangerment. It could go terrible wrong medjai Posted at 7:03 pm on June 10, 2008 Whoever told you that the new particle accelerator could devour the world if it fucked up was probably just joshing you. You realize that one of the stated goals of these mini big bang particle accelerator groups are in fact to intentionally create mini black holes. Guess what, they won't devour the earth. medjai Posted at 6:53 pm on June 10, 2008 I've read about it, I don't remember anything about the possibility of the earth consuming itself. tkedwn119 Posted at 6:51 pm on June 10, 2008 Quote: from medjai at 9:47 pm on June 10, 2008 No particle accelerator that man is currently capable of making could "kill us all" unless there's some new project I haven't heard of. Where have you been?  The one in Europe will likely either 1)recreate a mini bigbang or 2)create mini black holes wich will call the earth to consume it's self medjai Posted at 6:47 pm on June 10, 2008 No particle accelerator that man is currently capable of making could "kill us all" unless there's some new project I haven't heard of. tkedwn119 Posted at 6:47 pm on June 10, 2008 Quote: from MorningStar at 9:41 pm on June 10, 2008 Nuclear energy and fusion (or was it fission?) are quite clean sources of energy and last a long time, if you don't fuck it up like they did at Chernobyl and Three Mile Island. They are working on a way to do cold fission, like on the sun at room temp, a second of that fission can power america for a year, I think.  Don't quote me MorningStar Posted at 6:44 pm on June 10, 2008 Quote: from MAKINGstrangers at 5:10 am on June 11, 2008 I've never heard of something called a particle accelerator?   It involves I believe the collision of subatomic particles such as quarks and electrons.  I think protons are also a commonly used particle.  And then splitting an atom of iron?  It's been said that it would destroy half the universe, but it's never been tested for obvious not-wanting-to-blow-up-the-whole-world reasons.  And also, we don't know the size of the full universe, only the visible one. The only case in which I would consider blowing up half the universe would be if something happened like in the Peter F. Hamilton space opera book "The Reality Dysfunction."  Anyone read that book?  Lots of stuff about dark matter and shit. Total Destruction Posted at 6:42 pm on June 10, 2008 Quote: from MAKINGstrangers at 6:40 pm on June 10, 2008 I've never heard of something called a particle accelerator?   omg.... where have you been for the past decade? palepalepeach Posted at 6:41 pm on June 10, 2008 Some scientists seem to work on things that aren't really very important, but you never know where some scientific studies may lead and how they may come in useful in the future. Most recent 15 of 20 previous replies displayed.