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BlueEyedBrielle Posted at 12:39 pm on June 3, 2009
I have ADHD and yes, I'm on medicine for it. I take Adderall XR every morning before school, but I'm unsure if it's really working for me. Sometimes it does, but other times it doesn't. And lately, my ADHD has been getting worse by the day, especially in my all-mainstream student history class. So far, I've been kicked out of history class about twice this week for disruptive behavior and that's not fair because I can't help it. My teacher knows about my personal IEP but still he kicks me out of class whenever I get hyper or hard to handle. I know the other students think I'm weird, but I guess that's not going to make me stop the hyper behaviors.

I've been undergoing a large amount of stressful transitions lately. And often, when I get stressed or anxious, my ADHD behaviors start acting up and can get worse than normal. But since I'm so stressed, it's a bit more difficult for me to control my behavior in class. I guess I really do need my meds at this point. Usually, I do have control over most of my behaviors when I'm feeling normal. The abnormal behaviors include laughing about off-topic things and saying peoples' names and other details because I think they're funny.

It's also difficult because most of the other students in history class have ADHD or learning disabilities and they often encourage me to disrupt the class. I do know better than to be fooled by them, but it's hard for me to control. And I've been told I'm very impressionable and others' behavior can influence me sometimes. What do you think I should do? I'm stuck and can't stop the hyperactivity! Serious answers only, please. Thanks

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insurgent Posted at 7:54 am on Aug. 21, 2009

depressedfreak:

You're wrong, insurgent. Bipolar Disorder and ADHD are two different disorders. Sure, some symptoms of both disorders overlap, like the hyperactivity and inability to pay attention. But at the time of diagnosis, a doctor must look at the most pressing issues. If one's main problem is fluctuating between moods, they arre likely going through a manic/hypomanic/depressive episode of Bipolar (mood swings are also seen in ADD, but are much less extreme than those going through a manic/depressed episode). If one's main symptoms during a diagnosis are hyperactivity or inability to concentrate, trhen they are showing some core symptoms typical of ADHD. You could go to the doctor one day, say you can't concentrate, and get diagnosed ADHD. The next day, go back and say tyhat you have uncontrollable, extreme swings in mood, and you'll be diagnose as Bipolar. Then you're both ADHD AND Bipolar.


Actually, you're wrong.

Mood swings are a common fluctuation after the age of puberty, so your statement that mood swings are seen in A.D.D is fairly redundant, and doesn't make any sense, actually.   How exactly would a psychiatrist properly observe less severe mood swings as cause of A.D.D.  without attributing it to just the normal mood swings of a human?

Anyway.

Although A.D.H.D and bipolar disorder are two separate disorders they are created due to a chemical imbalance of the chemicals noepinephrine, epinephrine, seratonin, ect.  All the chemicals that control hunger, sleep, mood, energy, and the like.  It is not possible to be diagnosed with both disorders.
In a diagnosis you don't tell the psychiatrist a few symptoms one day, and come back the next day and tell them another range of symptoms.  They objectively ask you a few questions such as, "How is your ability to concentrate in class?" or "How well do you sleep at night?"  and you give a full account of your "life story," you could say,  in great detail and based on symptoms such as an inability to concentrate, decreased need for sleep, hyperactivity, and intense emotional outbursts, they would diagnose you with bipolar disorder.   Not bipolar disorder and A.D.H.D.  The diagnosis takes into full account of your symptoms as a whole, and attributes them to one disorder that closely pertains to your symptoms.

I was diagnosed with A.D.D. at the age of 7 then A.D.H.D at the age of 14 then Bipolar disorder at the age of 23, and upon diagnosis I was told it is a common occurrence for psychiatrists to mistakenly attribute symptoms of bipolar disorder to less severe disorders because the illness contains symptoms of a myriad of other disorders.  And incidentally, when I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder I was also told I had clinical depression around the age of 7, which was the cause of my inability to concentrate, and the psychiatrist at the time mistakenly diagnosed me with A.D.D.  Unbelievable.  But they are just giving their educated opinions, right?

Now, comorbidity does exist, meaning more than one disorder alongside another one.  But they'd have to be dissimilar disorders such as...dyslexia and A.D.H.D or OCD and bipolar disorder.

silverbullets Posted at 7:37 pm on Aug. 17, 2009
that stuff is actually terrible for you. long term use can cause depression, bipolar, and sometimes lead to suicide. the best thing to do is go to a friend or a therapist that specializes in ADHD. they will drill coping mechanisms into you so that you will keep from being hyper and keep you concentrated. like, even if your not required, write down points of the lesson so your buisy and not as easily distracted. the therapist will help you. iv also heard hypnotherapy works for ADHD too.
aphex twin Posted at 11:50 am on Aug. 17, 2009
Quote: from Kane36 at 5:12 pm on Aug. 16, 2009

I've been told I've had ADD and ADHD, my idiot therapist couldn't make up his mind, but I passed 7th and 8th grade science with a B never ever ONCE studying, just paying attention in class.

You can have both, it's called ADHD Combined Type.
Kane36 Posted at 5:12 pm on Aug. 16, 2009
I've been told I've had ADD and ADHD, my idiot therapist couldn't make up his mind, but I passed 7th and 8th grade science with a B never ever ONCE studying, just paying attention in class.
depressedfreak Posted at 11:46 am on Aug. 16, 2009
Quote: from insurgent at 10:21 am on Aug. 13, 2009


MyBrokenHeartBleeds:

i have ADD and im on Adderall  and anty depressents and a mood controller thing cause i have depressiong and im bipollar so i understand even though ADD and ADHD are differnt there silmilar in a way but w/e and some time i wonder if my meds are working and i have some of those tings ur going through to so ur not alone dont worry


 
No, you don't have A.D.D. and bipolar disorder. You just have bipolar disorder.

Honestly, does ANYONE else who gets diagnosed with these disorders do any research on them besides me? God....


You're wrong, insurgent. Bipolar Disorder and ADHD are two different disorders. Sure, some symptoms of both disorders overlap, like the hyperactivity and inability to pay attention. But at the time of diagnosis, a doctor must look at the most pressing issues. If one's main problem is fluctuating between moods, they arre likely going through a manic/hypomanic/depressive episode of Bipolar (mood swings are also seen in ADD, but are much less extreme than those going through a manic/depressed episode). If one's main symptoms during a diagnosis are hyperactivity or inability to concentrate, trhen they are showing some core symptoms typical of ADHD. You could go to the doctor one day, say you can't concentrate, and get diagnosed ADHD. The next day, go back and say tyhat you have uncontrollable, extreme swings in mood, and you'll be diagnose as Bipolar. Then you're both ADHD AND Bipolar.

insurgent Posted at 10:21 am on Aug. 13, 2009

MyBrokenHeartBleeds:

i have ADD and im on Adderall and anty depressents and a mood controller thing cause i have depressiong and im bipollar so i understand even though ADD and ADHD are differnt there silmilar in a way but w/e and some time i wonder if my meds are working and i have some of those tings ur going through to so ur not alone dont worry



No, you don't have A.D.D. and bipolar disorder.  You just have bipolar disorder.

Honestly, does ANYONE else who gets diagnosed with these disorders do any research on them besides me?  God....

MyBrokenHeartBleeds Posted at 7:43 am on July 28, 2009
i have ADD and im on Adderall  and anty depressents and a mood controller thing cause i have depressiong and im bipollar so i understand even though ADD and ADHD are differnt there silmilar in a way but w/e and some time i wonder if my meds are working and i have some of those tings ur going through to so ur not alone dont worry
insurgent Posted at 11:45 am on July 22, 2009

HelHound:

I have, ADD and ADHA and Bipolar, and other stuff. I don't take medicines at the moment. But when I was on them, I was the same way, sometimes they helped sometimes they didn't.


A.D.D. and A.D.H.D are symptoms of your bipolar disorder.  So, instead of saying you have a myriad of disorders, just say you have bipolar disorder.  Do some research on it. Bipolar disorder is the most complex, and often times the most misdiagnosed, because it contains symptoms of many psychological disorders.



meangirl64:


I would recommend going to your psychiatrist and asking for a dosage adjustment....or ask them for anxiety medication to help with the stress induced anxiety....


I think this is about the best counsel BlueEyedBrielle could receive concerning her dilemma.


InMyWorld99:

what did you guys have to do to be diagnosed?? like what did they do to test you for that?


An average clinical doctor can diagnose you for A.D.D. or A.D.H.D, I believe..  They simply ask you a few questions about your problematic behavior and determine whether you have a disorder based on your responses.  They're generally aware of the symptoms of the disorders, though, which is why they ask you to explain your behavior.

rstyku Posted at 3:27 pm on July 20, 2009
Quote: from wind at 8:46 am on July 4, 2009

Quote: from GlassHearts at 7:06 am on July 3, 2009

ADHD isnt real.

You're not real


He has the stronger case.

wind Posted at 8:46 am on July 4, 2009
Quote: from GlassHearts at 7:06 am on July 3, 2009

ADHD isnt real.

You're not real

GlassHearts Posted at 5:06 am on July 3, 2009
ADHD isnt real.
534534553453 Posted at 2:36 am on June 26, 2009
Hey Shans

Try taking breaks from your Adderall XR at the weekend.

It sounds like you are builiding a tollerance to your medication.

Also, buy magnesium tablets... and take 100-200mg's of magnesium a day.

This will prevent further tolerance.... and slowly reverse it in the long term.

Good luck!

x

InMyWorld99 Posted at 2:43 pm on June 23, 2009
what did you guys have to do to be diagnosed?? like what did they do to test you for that?
aphex twin Posted at 12:49 pm on June 22, 2009
You either need to change the dose, or switch over to a different medicine like Dexedrine, Vyvanse, Concerta, or Provigil, all which are less likely to cause anxiety.
outatime Posted at 11:20 pm on June 21, 2009
I used to get kicked out of class for the same kinda behavior.  
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