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kidd rune Posted at 3:58 pm on Aug. 22, 2008
Name some technological inventions by the negro.

GO!


EDIT: Already disproven (check posts):
*Peanut butter
*Traffic Light
*Air conditioner
*Lawn Mower
*Blood Bank
*Automatic Car Coupling Device
*Refrigeration for transport trucks
*Refrigeration for railroad cars
*Elevator
*Gas Mask
*Railway Air Brakes
*Steam-boiler/radiator
*Almanac
*Automatic fishing device
*Automatic gear shift
*Baby buggy
*Bicycle frame
*Biscuit cutter
*Blood plasma bag
*Cellular phone
*Chamber Commode
*Clothes dryer
*Curtain rod
*Door Knob
*Door stop
*Dust pan
*Egg beater
*Eye protector
*Fire escape ladder
*Fire extinguisher
*Folding bed
*Folding Chair
*Fountain Pen
*Furniture caster
*Golf tee
*Guitar
*Hair Brush
*Hand stamp
*Horse Shoe
*Ironing board
*Key chain
*Lantern
*Lawn mower
*Lawn sprinkler
*Lemon Squeezer
*Lock
*Lubricating cup
*Lunch pail
*Mailbox
*Mop
*Motor
*Pencil Sharpener
*Phone transmitter
*Refrigerator
*Rolling pin
*Shampoo Headrest
*Stove
*Street sweeper
*Thermostat
*Traffic light
*Tricycle
*Typewriter
*Kool Aid
*Lasting Machine
*Carbon filament
*Mechanical Seed Planter
*Mechanical Corn Harvester
*insect-destroyer gun

Proven as true negro inventions:
*SUPERSOAKER!(Even if it's not technology, it owns)

Undisputed (no proof whatsoever):
*Spark Plug (Disputed origin, some claim one man, others say another)
*Banjo (Unknown direct origin)
*Auto cut-off switch (What is this?)
Anyone can submit info on these.


Irrelevant (not inventions):
*improv. sugar making
*rap/rock-n-roll
*jazz
*cotton (seriously, this made me laugh for a good 10 minutes)

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kidd rune Posted at 11:47 am on Aug. 6, 2009
He ipatented an IMPROVED resistor (Improvement =/= invention).
Now if you could give the patent numbers for the said inventions (The resistor I found), or a date or something, then it would make my job a bit easier.
Soyzokins Posted at 8:57 pm on Aug. 5, 2009
Quote: from kidd rune at 11:10 am on July 29, 2009

Boykin - what electronic devices specifically? And what are they used in?

Otis Boykin is known for inventing a variable resistor used in guided missile parts, a control unit for heart stimulators, a burglar-proof cash register, and a chemical air filter.

kidd rune Posted at 11:20 am on July 29, 2009
Also to clean up the unknown inventions list:

*Mechanical Seed Planter
Claim was 1834 by H Blair.
Yet US#353949 from the 1700's was a Seed planter.


*Mechanical Corn Harvester
Same man, 2 years later.
US#371087 from the 1700's, again.


*insect-destroyer gun
From AC Richard February 28, 1899.
They already existed decades before.
US#148069 from the mid 1870's patents an improvement to insect guns.
kidd rune Posted at 11:10 am on July 29, 2009
The SuperSoaker I actually knew about, I may have mentioned it in this or another thread.
Regardless it's barely technology.

As for Matzeliger, the "Invention" was an improvement of the Lasting Machine. Among many others. It was patented in 1890, with at least 100 patents related to Lasting-Machines already existed.
I think it's wrong to assume that only one of maybe 100 improvements of the Lasting machine should take credit for it's achievements.
Funny how that works, isn't it?


Boykin - what electronic devices specifically? And what are they used in?


Latimer - I think he was already discussed.
Read this:


English chemist/physicist Joseph Swan http://www.bartleby.com/65/sw/Swan-Sir.html" target="_top">experimented with a carbon-filament incandescent light all the way back in 1860, and by 1878 had developed a better design which he patented in Britain. On the other side of the Atlantic, Thomas Edison developed a successful carbon-filament bulb, receiving a patent for it (#223898) in January 1880, before Lewis Latimer did any work in electric lighting. From 1880 onward, countless patents were issued for innovations in filament design and manufacture (Edison had over 50 of them). Neither of Latimer's two filament-related patents in 1881 and 1882 were among the most important innovations, nor did they make the light bulb last longer, nor is there reason to believe they were adopted outside Hiram Maxim's company where Latimer worked at the time. (He was not hired by Edison's company until 1884, primarily as a draftsman and an expert witness in patent litigations).

Latimer also did not come up with the first screw socket for the light bulb or the first book on electric lighting.


The Banjo - not only do we not know the exact origin, but "Africa" doesn't necessarily equate to Black, and it has been found in India, Egypt, and North East Africa in history - neither of these places could be considered Negroid at all.

Soyzokins Posted at 11:41 am on July 28, 2009
How about..

Jan Matzeliger - supposably invented a shoemaking machine that increased shoemaking speed by 900%.

Otis Boykin - invented electronic devices used in heart stimulators and guided missiles and IBM computers.

Lewis Latimer improved the newly-invented incandescent light bulb by inventing a carbon filament (which he patented in 1881)

The banjo was made by African slaves based on instruments that were indigenous to their parts of Africa.

I'm not sure if this counts as a technological invention but Lonnie G. Johnson  invented the world-famous watergun, the Supersoaker.

And I don't want to win anything, I only wish to contribute to your list of negro inventions. I added the smiley to be friendly.

kidd rune Posted at 11:54 pm on July 26, 2009

Henry Blair - Mechanical Corn Harvester (1836)
Try US#1641682 filed in 1828 which is also a mechanical corn harvester.


Mark Dean and his co-inventor Dennis Moeller - Microcomputer system with bus control means for peripheral processing devices (1984)

Apparently you didn't know Dennis Moeller isn't a Negro.
http://www.invent.org/hall_of_fame/104.html

Not only that, it's an improvement of an improvement of an improvement and so forth. And let's not forget in the patent itself they write "The use of peripheral processing devices which attach to the input/output interface of a main computer system is well known."


Elijah McCoy - Automatic Lubrication System for railroads and heavy machinery (1892)
This has been touched upon in another thread:
http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yysesei-support-yn.html
"The oil cup, which automatically delivers a steady trickle of lubricant to machine parts while the machine is running, predates McCoy's career; a description of one appears in the May 6, 1848 issue of Scientific American. The automatic "displacement lubricator" for steam engines was developed in 1860 by John Ramsbottom of England, and notably improved in 1862 by James Roscoe of the same country. The "hydrostatic" lubricator originated no later than 1871.

Variants of the phrase Real McCoy appear in Scottish literature dating back to at least 1856 — well before Elijah McCoy could have been involved."
More reading:
The Not-so-real McCoy
The Fake McCoy
Did Somebody Say McTrash?


Jan Matzeliger - Mechanism for distributing tacks, nails, etc.
I have to do the work for you...
MECHANISM FOR DISTRIBUTING TACKS - US#415726 - Filed Oct 12, 1888
"Be it known that I, Jan Earnst Matzeliger, of Lynn, conty of Essex, and Commonwealth of Massachusetts, have inveted certain Improvements in Mechanism for Distributing Tacks, Nails, and other Small Suspendable Articles..."
Does it need to be repeated? Improvments.

In Aug 1871, Albion Knowlton created an "Improvement in machines for distributing nails." US#118250.
William M Clark, in June 1885, patented an "Instrument for entering and drawing tacks." US#319070.



W. H. Sammons - Hot Comb (1920)
Seeing as we have Comb-Heater patents from 1900 (US#673018) I think Sammons is a bit off.
You really thought the Hot Comb was invented in the 20's? Common sense, please.


Granville Woods - Multiplex Telegraph system, allowing messages to be sent/received from moving trains (1887)
Already discussed...
It is erroneously said or implied on several websites that Granville Woods was proven the inventor of the first train telegraph in a court case against either Lucius Phelps or his business partner Thomas Edison. Woods never went head-to-head with Edison himself, but there is indeed a known case where one of Phelps's patent applications, relating to specific improvements of railway telegraphs, was invalidated in a patent office hearing because Woods also had a pending patent on a closely similar idea which he had begun to develop earlier (Phelps subsequently appealed the decision, to no avail). What is not generally known is that Phelps had several other* railway telegraph patents — awarded both before and after Woods filed his application on May 21, 1885 — which were not affected, and there had been previous inventors** (going back to at least 1873) who patented train telegraph systems years before either Phelps or Edison or Woods applied for patents in this area.

The Woods vs Phelps case is usually made out to be more of a big deal than it actually was. Cases involving interference between patent applications are nothing out of the ordinary, and are initiated by the patent office whenever two or more parties independently submit patent applications covering the same or overlapping ideas. Examiners then sort out who came up with the idea first. Edison and Phelps opposed each other in at least one of these disputes, which they resolved by forming the Consolidated Railway Telegraph Company to pool their interests in train telegraphy.

Interference does not mean anyone "stole" or dishonestly claimed another's invention, even though one side may accuse the other of doing so, as when Phelps accused Woods of getting his ideas from a Scientific American article which described the Phelps railway telegraph and which was published exactly three months before Woods applied for his first railway telegraph patent. Woods was able to prove that he came up with his own plan independently.

*
307984, 312506, 329076, 329077, 334186, 334187, 334188, 334189, 351524, 351525, 355468, 355469, 355470, 369880, etc.


**
James G. Smith's US Patent 141604, issued 5 August 1873:
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6014/rrteljgsmith.gif
William Wiley Smith's US Patent 247127 (issued 13 Sept 1881):
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/127/rrtelwwsmith.gif


Nathaniel John Mullen-Asphalt paving vehicles (1975)
Wrong.
Donald R. Davin (US#3846035) patented a grade control for asphalt pavers BEFORE 1975.
Let's not forget US#2109020, 2215455, 2225481, 2245426, 2393954, and the many more paver patents that are out there. Here's a hint, each of those listed (Except for Davin's) was patented over 30 years BEFORE Mullen's.


Thomas Jennings - Dry-cleaning process
This was just the first patent in the US to be recieved by a Negro. It's not the first patent for a dry-cleaning process.
Dry cleaning wasn't new, and his process was never widely used. The majority of results on google for "dry scouring" are about Jennings and his supposedly historical patent.


Daniel McCree - invented a portable fire escape and received patent 440,322 in 1890.
http://tinyurl.com/non3cg
Was not the first portable fire escape.
If you search "Fire escape" then you'll get matches from the 1700's.

By 1888, the US had over 1000 patents on fire escapes. Really, a few Negroes thrown in isn't surprising.


Samuel Moore
-Self-directing headlight (1926)

You are aware all he did was stick a light in front of a train?
And there were such inventions in the 1870's such as US#141183, 138426, etc.


-Vehicle-headlight mechanism (1928)
Is that not the same thing, but for automobiles instead? Well, yes it is.

The man did not invent, he just put a headlight on the front of a car.


-Locomotive headlight (1928)
Which were invented before the 1900's. (Ex: 309044)

-Hobby horse (1929)
Yet the toy horse is an old invention. An example is D60974, issued in 1922.
Not only that, you must admit a toy horse is quite old, invented way before the 1900s.

How about "Design for a Hobby-Horse" filed in 1875? Patent D8743?


-Fuel-valve lock for motor vehicles (1935)
How about US#1879482 from 1931?
Which claims to "provide an improved anti-theft valve lock for the fuel tank of an automotive vehicle."




Who is grinning now? I win, you don't.
Soyzokins Posted at 9:43 pm on July 26, 2009
Henry Blair - Mechanical Corn Harvester (1836)

Mark Dean and his co-inventor Dennis Moeller - Microcomputer system with bus control means for peripheral processing devices (1984)

Elijah McCoy - Automatic Lubrication System for railroads and heavy machinery (1892)

Jan Matzeliger - Mechanism for distributing tacks, nails, etc.

W. H. Sammons - Hot Comb (1920)

Granville Woods - Multiplex Telegraph system, allowing messages to be sent/received from moving trains (1887)


Nathaniel John Mullen-Asphalt paving vehicles (1975)

Thomas Jennings - Dry-cleaning process

Daniel McCree - invented a portable fire escape and received patent 440,322 in 1890.

Samuel Moore
-Self-directing headlight (1926)
-Vehicle-headlight mechanism (1928)
-Locomotive headlight (1928)
-Hobby horse (1929)
-Fuel-valve lock for motor vehicles (1935)

Moonscar Posted at 1:17 pm on June 23, 2009
You deny even modern inventions made by blacks. The only thing you will admit was invented by a black is the super soaker.  
Micus Posted at 9:54 am on June 23, 2009
kidd rune Posted at 4:04 pm on Sep. 29, 2008
Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 3:51 pm on Sep. 29, 2008

The racist blowjob so nice that he had to post about it twice.
Maybe it was an accident...


EDIT: Come on, I want a list of Negro inventions larger than single digits...

TheOtherHorseman Posted at 3:51 pm on Sep. 29, 2008
The racist blowjob so nice that he had to post about it twice.
kidd rune Posted at 3:30 pm on Sep. 29, 2008
Quote: from jakelong at 12:54 am on Sep. 29, 2008

I thought you had switched to sucking Himmler's cock. Didn't want to disturb your Nazi party.
Now I'm sucking Nazi cock because I prefer that sort of government?

Why don't you go suck the cock of all 43 presidents' cocks?

kidd rune Posted at 3:30 pm on Sep. 29, 2008
Quote: from jakelong at 12:54 am on Sep. 29, 2008

I thought you had switched to sucking Himmler's cock. Didn't want to disturb your Nazi party.
Now I'm sucking Nazi cock because I prefer that sort of government?

Why don't you go suck the cock of all 43 presidents' cocks?

mountain hare Posted at 2:13 am on Sep. 29, 2008
Buttsechs:

It's kind of hard to invent whilest your people are in shackles.

Not all negroes were in shackles over the entire course of history. And from memory, quite a few negroes were actually getting rich from putting their fellow negro in shackles.

jakelong Posted at 12:54 am on Sep. 29, 2008
I thought you had switched to sucking Himmler's cock. Didn't want to disturb your Nazi party.
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