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kidd rune
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Posted at 3:11 pm on Oct. 21, 2008 |
Quote: from jakelong at 9:54 pm on Oct. 20, 2008
Quote: from stl man at 4:28 pm on Oct. 20, 2008
come on yall this thread was over a long time ago. why are you still arguing on it?
KR's got nothin else to do 
What about you? |
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jakelong
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Posted at 9:54 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 |
Quote: from stl man at 4:28 pm on Oct. 20, 2008
come on yall this thread was over a long time ago. why are you still arguing on it?
KR's got nothin else to do |
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gretchx3
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Posted at 8:46 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 |
| Nope |
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Doghouse
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Posted at 4:39 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 |
| White people, like any other people, can be quite annoying. |
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stl man
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Posted at 4:28 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 |
| come on yall this thread was over a long time ago. why are you still arguing on it? |
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kidd rune
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Posted at 3:39 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 |
The point is scientists don't mention it because it got shit to do with science. If it had some scientific meaning they would use it. 
The word has so many false meanings people have added that the true meaning is hidden.
So to you Aryans = Europeans = whites Just what I thought... 
No...
with the black sea aryans (whatever race they were) 
They are Aryans mixed with Aryans?
Still kills your claim that Nazis did not think Aryan = nordic european. 
No, it doesn't. Himmler HIMSELF believed that the Roman and Slavic people, which aren't Nordic, were also Aryan and he wished to reunite them after Germany. |
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jakelong
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Posted at 10:46 pm on Oct. 19, 2008 |
Quote: from kidd rune at 6:50 pm on Oct. 19, 2008
Some people know what it means, but the average person hears "Aryan" and thinks "Nazi genocide jew hating blond blue eyed racist" 
The point is scientists don't mention it because it got shit to do with science. If it had some scientific meaning they would use it.
The "Original Europeans" were of Aryan/White/Caucasoid stock. 
So to you Aryans = Europeans = whites Just what I thought...
With what races? 
with the black sea aryans (whatever race they were)
Well, anthropology wasn't as known back then, of course they're going to get some stuff wrong.
Still kills your claim that Nazis did not think Aryan = nordic european. |
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kidd rune
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Posted at 6:50 pm on Oct. 19, 2008 |
If it was truly scientific they would have used it. Since it depends on interpretation they dont use it. 
Some people know what it means, but the average person hears "Aryan" and thinks "Nazi genocide jew hating blond blue eyed racist"
They mixed with Asians and Europeans Good so you admit that much. Now I repeat the ealier question: Why do you think the asians who mixed with aryans are NO LONGER aryans, BUT the europeans who mixed with aryans STILL are? 
Did you not see the question mark at the end of my sentence? The Asians that the Aryans mixed with were MONGOLOIDS. The "Original Europeans" were of Aryan/White/Caucasoid stock.
They are mixed. 
With what races?
So you dispute this right? --> 
Well, anthropology wasn't as known back then, of course they're going to get some stuff wrong. |
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jakelong
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Posted at 5:11 pm on Oct. 19, 2008 |
Quote: from kidd rune at 1:26 pm on Oct. 19, 2008
as I said, most people don't know what it means. 
If it was truly scientific they would have used it. Since it depends on interpretation they dont use it.
They mixed with Asians and Europeans 
Good so you admit that much. Now I repeat the ealier question: Why do you think the asians who mixed with aryans are NO LONGER aryans, BUT the europeans who mixed with aryans STILL are?
Most of present-day Europeans (not the immigrants) are of the same racial stock as the Black Sea dwellers. 
They are mixed.
Nazis never claimed only Nordics were Aryans.
So you dispute this right? -->
Adolf Hitler read Human Heredity shortly before he wrote Mein Kampf, and called it scientific proof of the racial basis of civilization.[3] Its arguments were also repeated by the Nazi ideologist Alfred Rosenberg, in his book The Myth of the Twentieth Century (1930). Rosenberg argued that the Nordic race had evolved in a now-lost landmass off the coast of North Western Europe, and had migrated through Scandinavia and northern Europe, expanding further south, and as far as Iran and India where it founded the Aryan cultures of Zoroastrianism and Hinduism. 
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snowfish
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Posted at 2:38 pm on Oct. 19, 2008 |
| I hate whiteness, but not all individual white folk. |
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kidd rune
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Posted at 1:26 pm on Oct. 19, 2008 |
Whoi is "they"? Thats not the ones who made the article you linked. They did not mention the word Aryan even once. You said earlier that Aryans could be non-Eruopean since they came from the Black sea... 
Of course they didn't use the term Aryan - as I said, most people don't know what it means.
They were developed in Europe. Just like Asians and Middle easterners. Your so-called aryans came from the black sea and mixed with asians and with europeans there. 
They mixed with Asians and Europeans (remember, this means nothing racially) in Europe?
Unless you want to claim that ALL europeans come from the black sea and are Aryans and that NO noneuropeans are aryans. 
Most of present-day Europeans (not the immigrants) are of the same racial stock as the Black Sea dwellers.
Which goes back to the old nazi claim that Only nordic europeans are aryans... 
Nazis never claimed only Nordics were Aryans - Himmler himself said he wanted to reunite the Roman and Slavic nations as well as the Germanic (Nordic) ones. |
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jakelong
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Posted at 1:17 pm on Oct. 19, 2008 |
Quote: from kidd rune at 12:50 pm on Oct. 19, 2008
Aryan is the most common race of the Europeans they tested. 
Whoi is "they"? Thats not the ones who made the article you linked. They did not mention the word Aryan even once. You said earlier that Aryans could be non-Eruopean since they came from the Black sea...
They teleported to Europe?
They were developed in Europe. Just like Asians and Middle easterners. Your so-called aryans came from the black sea and mixed with asians and with europeans there. Unless you want to claim that ALL europeans come from the black sea and are Aryans and that NO noneuropeans are aryans. Which goes back to the old nazi claim that Only nordic europeans are aryans... |
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kidd rune
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Posted at 12:50 pm on Oct. 19, 2008 |
So European = Aryan? The article does NOT mention anything about Aryans. 
Aryan is the most common race of the Europeans they tested.
Another unfounded claim. Cro-magnon = European Upper Paleolithic They did NOT come from the Black Sea. Those are the indigineous european you were looking for. 
They teleported to Europe? |
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jakelong
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Posted at 12:42 pm on Oct. 19, 2008 |
Quote: from kidd rune at 12:38 pm on Oct. 19, 2008
^^^Cro-Magnid genes very common in Europe. 
So European = Aryan? The article does NOT mention anything about Aryans.
Also, Proto-Nordic is another term for Cro-Magnon. 
Another unfounded claim. Cro-magnon = European Upper Paleolithic They did NOT come from the Black Sea. Those are the indigineous european you were looking for. |
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kidd rune
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Posted at 12:38 pm on Oct. 19, 2008 |
Quote: from jakelong at 12:29 pm on Oct. 19, 2008
Quote: from kidd rune at 11:46 am on Oct. 18, 2008They are considered Aryan, Prove to me they are Aryan.
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0002700 ^^^Cro-Magnid genes very common in Europe. Also, Proto-Nordic is another term for Cro-Magnon. The Scandinavians are supposed to be the closest genetic ancestors to the Cro-Magnids, does that tell you anything? |
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