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Moonscar Posted at 6:04 pm on Nov. 25, 2008
Ok so there are a lot of white girls that can be pretty. though I am sick and tired of everyone saying they are the prettiest. I mean on top of that they say black Women are ugly! I am sorry but I have seen a lot of African Women that can blow some white girls out of the water.......

Even fellow black men are like " Nah I want me a white woman!". I guess this is just preference but even the media and movies puts it in your head that white woman "define" beauty. On another note, the media and what you see on TV practices a lot of "Pro white things"

like in movies the Black man would most of the time always die and the way the media makes it like it's typical for black people to be doing crime. It makes black children have low self esteem because of what influences them on TV like this video shows.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybDa0gSuAcg

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Moonscar Posted at 1:18 pm on Dec. 5, 2008
Quote: from meesh at 7:44 pm on Dec. 4, 2008

Everyone is beautiful. There are plenty of shows and movies with black women that show how pretty they are. I watch TV and I see these shows with powerful black women. You see them on magazine covers and in the media all the time. At least I do and I don't think there is any lack of attention on the BEAUTY OF BLACK WOMEN.

Yeah but notice how Hollywood doesn't except black women actors as much as they do young  white women actors. I notice that the lack of black women actors limits movies to picking black women like Holly Barry which is cool but is that all they have as far as the top black women actors?  

meesh Posted at 7:44 pm on Dec. 4, 2008
Everyone is beautiful. There are plenty of shows and movies with black women that show how pretty they are. I watch TV and I see these shows with powerful black women. You see them on magazine covers and in the media all the time. At least I do and I don't think there is any lack of attention on the BEAUTY OF BLACK WOMEN.  
kidd rune Posted at 2:24 pm on Dec. 2, 2008
You know where you said it. Just re-read the thread. I don't think I said it - can you be kind enough to find it?

Oh so thats the plan? Why would they leave? They were in Sweden before you.   But not before the other Swedes - I am central Nordic and my ancestors were there 100s of years ago.

[quote     It's called mixing.

Funny how those aryans liked to mix all the time with everybody  EXCEPT in Northern  Europe...

How do we know the Aryans aren't simply the people who ar e currently in the Black sea and have been there for milleniums? Northern Europe didn't have many peopel there - and the Lapps, who were there, usually stay in their tribes and a small amount of the Scandinavians considered White have Lappish ancestors.

At elast that's how you defnine it. I call that enthicity. What makes it different?

Are you Amerind by genetics?

Many people that are 1/8 or 1/16 Amerind are still considered Amerind by some tribes.

To be considered a Lapp you only need ONE Lappish ancestor.

White Nationalist not necessarily the same as Swedish Nationalist. Or is he saying they are? I didn't say they were - but he knows about the Scandinavian groups due to the fact that he LIVES there - and he told me they usually accept all people genetically related to Swedes and able to adapt to their culture.

We were speaking of Swedish nationalists. The NSF is dead remember?

Although yeah thats true. NSF was ALL ABOUT race. It's not dead - they just changed their name...

Send a formal letter. To Sweden?

jakelong Posted at 11:31 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
yeh man that's true.  
drkberry Posted at 11:30 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
Asians are the most underrepresented group in the media.
jakelong Posted at 9:39 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
The idea of what is beautiful is cultural mostly,
sportybeth87 Posted at 9:29 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
Quote: from Takinam at 10:18 am on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from sportybeth87 at 3:59 am on Nov. 30, 2008

i just recently learned that people who we find are beautiful have a face that we see on a common base and are more symmetrical. I personally find European features more attractive because those are the images I most commonly see and I am african-canadian. But even if i lived in the country of which I was born in, I would still find European features more attractive because the country I am from the people there have features that resemble more european features. People are even surprised when I tell them I am pure African. Cause my hair texture resembles Caucasian girls and i have a pointy nose and not so big lips.  

What country are you "from" (You are Canadian, but whatever)?

 


I am Ethiopian.

trome125 Posted at 9:26 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
Caucasian can ugly too
jakelong Posted at 7:49 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
Quote: from kidd rune at 5:44 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

Locate where I said it was fine to do this.
You know where you said it. Just re-read the thread.


Tell them to leave?
Oh so thats the plan? Why would they leave? They were in Sweden before you.  


It's called mixing.
Funny how those aryans liked to mix all the time with everybody  EXCEPT in Northern  Europe...

How do we know the Aryans aren't simply the people who ar e currently in the Black sea and have been there for milleniums?


Coincidentally Amerind is a subrace.
At elast that's how you defnine it. I call that enthicity.


Explain.
You are not 100% ethnic Sweden.


He is a White Nationalist and National Socialist also - and he sure as hell knows more about the Scandinavian Nationalist groups than you do.
White Nationalist not necessarily the same as Swedish Nationalist. Or is he saying they are?


I thought we were speaking of the NSF...
We were speaking of Swedish nationalists. The NSF is dead remember?

Although yeah thats true. NSF was ALL ABOUT race.


Now I'm awaiting a response to the email and we'll see how correct you are.
Send a formal letter.
kidd rune Posted at 5:44 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

So living with minority groups is fine then according to you? Good! That's the first time I heard you say this...
Locate where I said it was fine to do this.


Yep better watch out for those Asians in Sweden.... Oh and don't forget the Muslims. What are you guys gonna do about them?
Tell them to leave?


Oh really? Hmm wonder what happened...
It's called mixing.


So is ancestry and culture. You can't change ethnicity just by changing Nationality. Anyone who is not Amerindian is NOT ETHNICALLY American.

http://www.humboldt.edu/~humboldt/catalogpdfs/programs/ethniclit.pdf

I am more ethnically American than you are that's for sure.


Coincidentally Amerind is a subrace.


Don't forget 100% which you are not
Explain.


Where does your friend live? Does he belong to that group?
Norway - hence him being Norwegian.

He is a White Nationalist and National Socialist also - and he sure as hell knows more about the Scandinavian Nationalist groups than you do.


Ask those guys not me.  

Here is a translation of their ideas



The first bolded part - "nationalist principle, the principle of one state, one nation" - is pretty much saying that their people deserve their own place to live. Makes sense.

"territorial boundaries of the state shall coincide with its demographic"
This just says the race of the people should make up the boundaries.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats

They do NOT speak about race but about ETHNICITY and about STATE.


I thought we were speaking of the NSF...


You are not 100% ETHNIC swede sorry.

You don't understand shit about nationalism and what it is really about in Europe.


We were talking about the NSF...

Now I'm awaiting a response to the email and we'll see how correct you are.

jakelong Posted at 4:43 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
Quote: from kidd rune at 2:48 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

People tend to live with their own minority groups (or else they'd be forced to marry outside of race)
So living with minority groups is fine then according to you? Good! That's the first time I heard you say this...


and in that they choose to practice their culture and - like in my area for instance - they can transform it to their liking.
Yep better watch out for those Asians in Sweden.... Oh and don't forget the Muslims. What are you guys gonna do about them?


It WAS full of them thousands of years ago.

Now it's not at all.


Oh really? Hmm wonder what happened...


I know - ethnicity and nationality are NOT the same thing - nationality is a PART of ethnicity.
So is ancestry and culture. You can't change ethnicity just by changing Nationality. Anyone who is not Amerindian is NOT ETHNICALLY American.

http://www.humboldt.edu/~humboldt/catalogpdfs/programs/ethniclit.pdf

I am more ethnically American than you are that's for sure.


People of racial Swedish descent.
Don't forget 100% which you are not


I looked at it more and I asked my Norwegian friend - he told me that it's probably more pushed towards people of similar race of the Swedish people.
Where does your friend live? Does he belong to that group?


What makes you Swedish? How long did your ancestors have to live there?
Ask those guys not me.  

Here is a translation of their ideas


"The critical ingredient of a safe, harmonic, solid and supportive society is the common identity, which in turn requires a high degree of ethnic and cultural uniformity amongst the people. From this, it follows that the nationalist principle, the principle of one state, one nation , is absolutely fundamental to the Sweden Democrats' political values. The nationalist principle is based on the concept of the nation state, that the territorial boundaries of the state shall coincide with its demographic boundaries. In its ideal form, such a society is therefore ethnically homogenous. [...] Cultural diversity is as necessary to mankind as biological diversity is to nature. The different cultures are mankind's common heritage and they should be acknowledged and kept apart for the benefit of us all. [...] Countries containing a multiple of relatively strong cultures have tended to develop in such a way that they end up diluting the different ethnicities and totally eradicating their original identities. We the Sweden Democrats believe that the safest way to protect the diversity of cultures, taking into consideration respect for human rights, is to do so as much as possible in the paradigm of the nation state. (Sverigedemokraterna 2003)"[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats

They do NOT speak about race but about ETHNICITY and about STATE.


The party claims to advocate national responsibility, social justice, and an ecological consciousness. Further, the party wishes to promote a general moral improvement in Swedish society, protect fundamental Western and Protestant ethics, and strengthen national unity in order to create solidarity between ethnic Swedes.

You are not 100% ETHNIC swede sorry.

You don't understand shit about nationalism and what it is really about in Europe.

kidd rune Posted at 2:48 pm on Dec. 1, 2008

What for? You don't need tham. And they might breed with some of you!
People tend to live with their own minority groups (or else they'd be forced to marry outside of race) and in that they choose to practice their culture and - like in my area for instance - they can transform it to their liking.


The Black sea is the place for you. Full of aryans....
It WAS full of them thousands of years ago.

Now it's not at all.


Ethnicity  =/= nationality.
I know - ethnicity and nationality are NOT the same thing - nationality is a PART of ethnicity.


Yeah ppl of 100% Swedish ancestry.
People of racial Swedish descent.

I looked at it more and I asked my Norwegian friend - he told me that it's probably more pushed towards people of similar race of the Swedish people.


And your heritage is not 100% Swedish. You just a mongrel.
What makes you Swedish? How long did your ancestors have to live there?

What racial makeup? What genetic classification? And - before you say it - Swedish isn't JUST an ethnicity nor must you be genetically similar to Swedes to BE of any ethnicity these Sweden National Socialists are.

Sweden is about 70% Hallstatt - is that what you're speaking of? If so - 30% of genetic Swedes wouldn't be considered Swedish - doubt this a lot.

They have Borreby, Baltic, and Tronder.


I am of Keltic, Bruenn, Hallstatt, and Anglo-Saxon genetic ancestry.

The Hallstatt race common in Sweden is most common with the Keltic race.

Anglo-Saxon is a Keltic, Bruenn, and Halstatt blend.

All of my subracial makeup would be seen as Swedish by almost anyone - even many of the Swedish National Socialists.

I am Central Nordic - and so are the Swedes.


Now, explain why my being in the USA or having British ancestors would not make me accepted - and I'll test that theory by personally emailing them.


You can change your NATIONAILTY NOT your ETHNICITY
Yes you can.
Wiki also:

In some cases, especially involving transnational migration, or colonial expansion, ethnicity is linked to nationality.


I bet the NS can find a way...

Re-read this


Explain how they are going to test it or you can't claim anything.


Not always. Ask Serb nationalist in Serbia if they are friendly with croats. Both are white. Both are even from the same area even. They hate each others guts. Ask a French nationalist In France if he really likes german ppl. Ask a Russian nationalist what he thnks of Poles.

But yeah you know shit. It's pretty obvious.


This is also due to cultural differences.

If I go to Sweden and feel like discarding whatever American culture I had - learn the language - and act Swedish, why wouldn't they accept me?

Before you say "Because you're not 100% Swedish" tell me how they'd know!
How would they know about my ancestors from before the USA?


And French nationalism is NOT about race.

It's about Nationality.

Its about how many geenrations of 100% French ancestry you have.

Nationalism was never really about race to start with. It was about COUNTRY and NATION.

Country nationalism existed way before race nationalism. Race nationalism is a total BS concept made up recently to try to get ppl of the same race to fight the same way people sued to fight for their country. But race nationalism has totally no meaning.

They just twisted the words to fit their need.


Well - most countries have a quite distinct subracial/racial makeup...

Then again what is nationality?

If I move to Britain and my children are born there - are they British?

jakelong Posted at 7:13 pm on Nov. 30, 2008
Quote: from kidd rune at 2:08 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Enough to create a minority culture.
What for? You don't need tham. And they might breed with some of you!


I said I wanted to move somewhere in Europe
The Black sea is the place for you. Full of aryans....


Anyone that moves to Sweden and "Assimilates" can consider themselves of the Swedish ethnicity.

Ethnicity  =/= nationality.


They CLEARLY state on their website that they don't want those people - only racial Swedes.
Yeah ppl of 100% Swedish ancestry.


They are speaking of Swedes by genetic descent or heritage.
And your heritage is not 100% Swedish. You just a mongrel.


becomes Swedish by nationality AND ethnicity
You can change your NATIONAILTY NOT your ETHNICITY


You can change your ethnicity you know...
Nope.


You can test for Swedish ancestry?
If you think a genetic test will reveal this - you're wrong.

I bet the NS can find a way...

Re-read this


Yes but not WHITE nationalist. SWEDISH nationalist. Thats really diffent..


Secondly, the Nationalist parties you're speaking of are friendly towards their whole folk - the people of their race.
Not always. Ask Serb nationalist in Serbia if they are friendly with croats. Both are white. Both are even from the same area even. They hate each others guts. Ask a French nationalist In France if he really likes german ppl. Ask a Russian nationalist what he thnks of Poles.

But yeah you know shit. It's pretty obvious.


French is not a race. Italian is not a race. British is not a race.
And French nationalism is NOT about race.

It's about Nationality.

Its about how many geenrations of 100% French ancestry you have.

Nationalism was never really about race to start with. It was about COUNTRY and NATION.

Country nationalism existed way before race nationalism. Race nationalism is a total BS concept made up recently to try to get ppl of the same race to fight the same way people sued to fight for their country. But race nationalism has totally no meaning.

They just twisted the words to fit their need.

kidd rune Posted at 2:08 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

OMG!!! ew! 6% of Asians????
Enough to create a minority culture.

And you really think all WN's want is a nation with no nonWhites and a copy of every other European Nation?



And you want to immigrate there? Are you mad? Oh wait yeah you are...
I said I wanted to move somewhere in Europe - I used random statistics I made up in one thread (and I clearly said I made them up) to make a point.


Pure swedish ethnicity? Or as they dsay "100% swedish" if you look at the post
They put a racial basis on that.

Anyone that moves to Sweden and "Assimilates" can consider themselves of the Swedish ethnicity.

They CLEARLY state on their website that they don't want those people - only racial Swedes.


Swedish is ONLY a nationality? It is not an ethnicity?
I guess you could call it a nationality and ethnicity - but they truly aren't used by the NSF. They are speaking of Swedes by genetic descent or heritage.

One that moves to Sweden and becomes Swedish by nationality AND ethnicity is still not considered Swedish to them.


You can change your ethnicity you know...


You are not 100% swedish ancestryyou fail their test. I don't think they want even Norwegian and Finns.
You can test for Swedish ancestry?
If you think a genetic test will reveal this - you're wrong.


Yes but not WHITE nationalist. SWEDISH nationalist. Thats really diffent..

Many nationalist groups in Europe are for people who are 100%  THEIR OWN nationality only. As in 100% British or 100% French or 100% German. They might tolerate other europeans or other whites but to them they are inforerior in what they care about.


Inferior? Right off the bat you're wrong about that.

Secondly, the Nationalist parties you're speaking of are friendly towards their whole folk - the people of their race.

French is not a race. Italian is not a race. British is not a race.

Many British people could walk into France, learn French, mine their culture - and nobody would know that they're British.



Yep as opposed to French or Italian.
Actually it's mainly opposed to Muslim...



But not WHITE nationalism.
And?


It is COUNTRY nationalism not WHITE nationalism. Totally different really.
"Totally different" - are you so sure?

Many of the Nationalist movements accept people of the same folk but of different countries.

Germany is a good example for that. Germany accepted Romanic, Germanic, and Slavic(Contrary to popular belief) people.
There were plenty of non-Nordic Whites in Germany that were considered German enough to be part of Germany.

But a person that lived in Germany their whole life and was not of the Folk (Jews for example) were NOT considered Germanic and therefore denied citizenship.


Or they get invaded by German nazis...

Look at the New Order

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Order_(political_system)


I'm speaking of today...
Jazzy Jeff Posted at 11:15 am on Nov. 30, 2008
why do you want so much attention anyway? if black beauty was more prevalent it's not like everybody would suddenly stop and think "OH you're hotter than I've noticed over the years!" either ya got it or ya don't.

White beauty is more prevalent in America...that doesn't stop the numerous amounts of teenage white girls from starving themselves and begging their parents for plastic surgery.

Not racist in the slightest but I'd like to make a comparison between the amounts of secure white girls with the amount of secure black girls. From what I can tell a lot of black women don't need to have hot people from their ethnicity splashed across the television screen nonstop to think of themselves as attractive.

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