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Chava Posted at 3:12 pm on Nov. 27, 2008
I know that there are alot of topics in this particular section that are anti-black. But honestly with so many people (not just on one site but on the news, in the papers, and in the general public) are complaining about the actions/demeanor of one race, then isn't it just possible that something is significantly wrong with the culture in general. And how is it the white man's fault if there is (for those of you who say blacks do have a general problem but it's all the fault of the white man) especially when their own African tribes sold them out. I mean it's all over the news right now people shooting each other, some guy held up his own family at gunpoint, deadbeat fathers that I personally know and they're all black. What's wrong with you people who act "ghetto" or "gangster" and think it's cool and popular. You and your race just look stupid. And logically if there are so many people talking about you, property values going down because of you, and your murder/drug rates are higher than any other race in the United States, there is something wrong with your logic. Why are doctors normally portrayed white and crack dealers black? I mean it's not the white media or a Jewish conspiracy because hell blacks have many film productions in Hollywood to portray themselves well. They nearly always choose gangster, drugs, or some ghetto dance movies to the greater films of our time like DaVinci Code and Passion of the Christ (I haven't seen movies in a while but I know the ones from 2006) and now Twilight. There are almost no good portrayals of blacks anywhere in society and mostly black neighborhoods are drug and crime ridden armpits of society.

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jakelong Posted at 6:25 am on Dec. 6, 2008
Its funny the OP says that because I sometimes hear bigots say the same thing about Jews.

As in "if Jews get so much bad rap and trouble maybe it's nbecause there's something really wrong with them"

Does the OP agree with that too?

GoloSLB Posted at 7:57 pm on Dec. 5, 2008
I thought you left.
Moonscar Posted at 1:15 pm on Dec. 5, 2008

Ok so there happened to be a slut that was black. I am not trying to imply anything but I see a lot of slutty white women too. You only pick out things on the black race and act as if it doesn't apply to your race too. That's what makes you racially biased and almost to the extent of me wanting to call you a racist which I already think you are. I still think your mentally scared and the way you think is illogical which is the irony of your topic title.........
medjai Posted at 7:51 pm on Dec. 4, 2008
You are one family, the REALITY is that the vast majority of LONG TERM welfare goes to poor white people. Congrats on not falling into the mold of the average welfare recipient, there are black families that don't either though so your story is worthless.

Basicay you completely failed to address my post because in reality you have no rebuttal (because you are wrong),  but you can't admit it because youare a racist. You told us to be logical, I did, when do you plan on starting?

Jazzy Jeff Posted at 5:26 pm on Dec. 4, 2008
Quote: from Chava at 9:12 pm on Nov. 27, 2008

They nearly always choose gangster, drugs, or some ghetto dance movies to the greater films of our time like DaVinci Code and Passion of the Christ (I haven't seen movies in a while but I know the ones from 2006) and now Twilight. There are almost no good portrayals of blacks anywhere in society and mostly black neighborhoods are drug and crime ridden armpits of society.

Uhm are you even aware of how much whites have contributed to the praise of crime in the media? What's that show that won 5 golden globes "The Sopranos"?

Why consistently mention the negatives associated with blacks and consistently mention the positives associated with whites?

Little Bill, The Cosby Show, Cooley High, Sparkle, Proud Family, Smart Guy, etc. all black shows and movies with a general positive message.

Jazzy Jeff Posted at 5:20 pm on Dec. 4, 2008
Quote: from Chava at 5:17 pm on Dec. 4, 2008

It's not just this site. My fiance' feels the same way. My neighbor across from us FROM AFRICA (Morocco and he's somewhat middle eastern looking with the olive skin tone but not black) came over to borrow some DVDs and told us about the "nigger slut" who lived next door to us. No provocation on our part. There are many many people who feel this way and there has to be a reason. Either we're all wrong in our observations or there is something wrong with black culture in America.

It's mostly just people trying to throw all of the weight of the world's problems on one particular group. My good friend surprised me the other day saying "Jeff....I gotta say most of yer race is so disrespectful." It annoyed me it did...but I didn't get a temper I just kinda shit-tested him "And whites aren't just as disrespectful?"  

Turns out the only reason he said that was we were at the Marta station (predominately black) there were a few people we passed by who were being loud on the phone.

He has a history of getting annoyed at small things, but anytime we come by a couple of white kids shouting at the top of their lungs and acting obnoxious...it's not a racial issue.

It's just so easy to blame an entire group of people...and I've come to accept the fact that some people are just too shallow when it comes to race. (That's one of the problems with having white buddies...you gotta listen to them complain so much.)

See what I did there? And I could be in a large circle of black friends saying all this stuff and the more and more we find reasons as to why so and so is awful the more we begin to believe they are the worst thing to happen in society. How else do you think a black man had the nerve to go on LIVE television and announce to exterminate all white people. By your logic there must be something wrong with caucasians as well, else why would he go  to such lengths to make that public announcement?

Fantasia16 Posted at 3:52 pm on Dec. 4, 2008
I don't see logic, i see being racist
The Samsoniteman Posted at 2:45 pm on Dec. 4, 2008
There is a difference between noting an apparent or real difference between two races and concluding that this difference is down to race.

The ability to ignore (often obvious) confounding variables is the racist's greatest ability.

Chava Posted at 2:08 pm on Dec. 4, 2008
Quote: from medjai at 3:08 pm on Dec. 4, 2008

Africa is aids ridden and in poverty with very limited opportunity for education, because of the fact that they are in a dark age, you see the worst in humanity, like the Jews stampeding each other for bread during the holocaust.

Find a nation which is wealthy, offers good education, and is predominantly black, and see if their behavior is the same. In Europe's past the white peasants were even more 'gangster' than blacks today, and if we learn anything from this historical fact it's that anyone in the lowest echelon in wealth and education is far more likely to appear and act uncivilized and stupid than those who don't suffer the same barriers. For your argument to hold water you'd have to prove that whites in the same shifty situation as a poor black were still model citizens who did not appear stupid. Naturally that's not the case, and we just ignore the fact that whites in the same situation are just as 'lazy' and stupid and gangster and everything else. Your racism gives you blinders to this reality, apparently.


Last year we didn't even have a place to sleep that was warm for us and our then 7 month old son. We had very little food and very little money. We lived in a predominately black neighborhood scared for our lives because of all of the crime. We never stole, we never did drugs, and we never acted anything like the people we were living around. My fiance' had a job, just a shitty one and we weren't on welfare. Everyone else had EBT cards and free housing where we lived. None worked to get a job or better themselves, they just sat and did drugs all day while their kids (sometimes just in diapers) ran the streets of this drug addicts dream of an apartment complex. I can say we were in a desperate situation even unable to pay for our heat or eat much other than ramen noodles because they were cheap. This was when gas was $4 a gallon so most of our money was spent on gas/rent. I can say we are white and El Salvadorean and we weren't nearly as savage as the blacks who lived in the same apartment complex as us.

And what about the blacks of America? Even being poor in America is like being rich in some parts of Africa. There's no reason for savage behavior here. If you don't have food every few blocks there's a foodbank or if you qualify foodstamps. Need clothes? Local churches and the Salvation Army will hook you up.  Drug addiction? Free health care to those with no income via Caresource or Molina. No reason for savage behaviour here, yet they act worse here than in some places in Africa. Killing each other over a Playstation 2. There's a place near here called Wedgewood. It's in Columbus, Ohio (I don't live anywhere near there so that the mods aren't in an uproar about the location.). It was on the news a few months ago that some black guy shot another black guy to steal his Playstation 2. If that's not barbaric for no reason I don't know what is. So go on with your cop-outs but there is no reason, poverty or not.

medjai Posted at 12:08 pm on Dec. 4, 2008
Africa is aids ridden and in poverty with very limited opportunity for education, because of the fact that they are in a dark age, you see the worst in humanity, like the Jews stampeding each other for bread during the holocaust.

Find a nation which is wealthy, offers good education, and is predominantly black, and see if their behavior is the same. In Europe's past the white peasants were even more 'gangster' than blacks today, and if we learn anything from this historical fact it's that anyone in the lowest echelon in wealth and education is far more likely to appear and act uncivilized and stupid than those who don't suffer the same barriers. For your argument to hold water you'd have to prove that whites in the same shifty situation as a poor black were still model citizens who did not appear stupid. Naturally that's not the case, and we just ignore the fact that whites in the same situation are just as 'lazy' and stupid and gangster and everything else. Your racism gives you blinders to this reality, apparently.

Chava Posted at 11:17 am on Dec. 4, 2008
It's not just this site. My fiance' feels the same way. My neighbor across from us FROM AFRICA (Morocco and he's somewhat middle eastern looking with the olive skin tone but not black) came over to borrow some DVDs and told us about the "nigger slut" who lived next door to us. No provocation on our part. There are many many people who feel this way and there has to be a reason. Either we're all wrong in our observations or there is something wrong with black culture in America.
Moonscar Posted at 5:15 pm on Dec. 1, 2008
Quote: from Chava at 10:47 am on Dec. 1, 2008

Quote: from Moonscar at 12:51 pm on Nov. 28, 2008

Quote: from Chava at 7:12 am on Nov. 28, 2008

All I'm saying is that there are alot of people who don't like blacks for good reason. It's not an ignorant clueless post. An observation followed by a hypothesis is a scientifically acceptable method for making a conclusion (if you've ever taken a science class you should know this). I made an observation (not of all black people but of a set group of black people, as scientists do) and found that about 80% of them act a certain way i.e. ghetto. Therefore my conclusion is that most black people act this way and make a living stealing, doing and selling drugs, and just overall violence. If you don't like it because it doesn't include "all" black people then tough. No real scientist would include all black people either. But I guarentee if they do a controlled study (somewhat of a man off the street thing) with 100 black people 80 of them would act this way.
 

If you took a science class you would know that your little " theory" lacks enough data to even say 100 out of 80 would act ghetto and steal. Ok then, since there are so many racist/prejudice whit people like you around, maybe I should say that if I get 100 white people, 80 of them would act this way since there are a lot of you guys in the world. Though I am not going to do that because I know better unlike you. Go back to science and Maybe even history class please.



I got straight A's through Physics and AP Gov. I think I can recognize good data. And by observing say 100 black people I found that 80 of them acted a certain way. You're always going to be in favor of your race no matter what stupid things they do though. So you're biased.

You should not be talking about biased. you being raped by a black man obviously throws off your judgment. It has nothing to do with me supporting my race no matter what. You are extremely prejudice and I would like to see these statistics you speak so dearly about....

Seriously please see a psychiatrist, brush up your knowledge on African Americans since you seem to feel free to make all these biased stereotypes and pass them off as facts. Really, don't talk about Biased.......


Also it doesn't matter if you get A's in whatever. Your judgment can still be tainted due to ignorance and your biased point of view (you being white and easily making stereotypes on another race which you know little about based on the post I have been reading)

I am not trying to be harsh, I just think you really need to see someone because your views prove that you are not well in some places....

You can't use data to survey things like " 7 out of 13 white girls are preppy". And for the record I can be on both white and black sides but it seems that on this site there are more anti-blacks then there are anti-whites.....

Chava Posted at 10:47 am on Dec. 1, 2008
Quote: from Moonscar at 12:51 pm on Nov. 28, 2008

Quote: from Chava at 7:12 am on Nov. 28, 2008

All I'm saying is that there are alot of people who don't like blacks for good reason. It's not an ignorant clueless post. An observation followed by a hypothesis is a scientifically acceptable method for making a conclusion (if you've ever taken a science class you should know this). I made an observation (not of all black people but of a set group of black people, as scientists do) and found that about 80% of them act a certain way i.e. ghetto. Therefore my conclusion is that most black people act this way and make a living stealing, doing and selling drugs, and just overall violence. If you don't like it because it doesn't include "all" black people then tough. No real scientist would include all black people either. But I guarentee if they do a controlled study (somewhat of a man off the street thing) with 100 black people 80 of them would act this way.

If you took a science class you would know that your little " theory" lacks enough data to even say 100 out of 80 would act ghetto and steal. Ok then, since there are so many racist/prejudice whit people like you around, maybe I should say that if I get 100 white people, 80 of them would act this way since there are a lot of you guys in the world. Though I am not going to do that because I know better unlike you. Go back to science and Maybe even history class please.



I got straight A's through Physics and AP Gov. I think I can recognize good data. And by observing say 100 black people I found that 80 of them acted a certain way. You're always going to be in favor of your race no matter what stupid things they do though. So you're biased.
Moonscar Posted at 9:51 am on Nov. 28, 2008
Quote: from Chava at 7:12 am on Nov. 28, 2008

All I'm saying is that there are alot of people who don't like blacks for good reason. It's not an ignorant clueless post. An observation followed by a hypothesis is a scientifically acceptable method for making a conclusion (if you've ever taken a science class you should know this). I made an observation (not of all black people but of a set group of black people, as scientists do) and found that about 80% of them act a certain way i.e. ghetto. Therefore my conclusion is that most black people act this way and make a living stealing, doing and selling drugs, and just overall violence. If you don't like it because it doesn't include "all" black people then tough. No real scientist would include all black people either. But I guarentee if they do a controlled study (somewhat of a man off the street thing) with 100 black people 80 of them would act this way.

If you took a science class you would know that your little " theory" lacks enough data to even say 100 out of 80 would act ghetto and steal. Ok then, since there are so many racist/prejudice whit people like you around, maybe I should say that if I get 100 white people, 80 of them would act this way since there are a lot of you guys in the world. Though I am not going to do that because I know better unlike you. Go back to science and Maybe even history class please.

Chava Posted at 7:12 am on Nov. 28, 2008
All I'm saying is that there are alot of people who don't like blacks for good reason. It's not an ignorant clueless post. An observation followed by a hypothesis is a scientifically acceptable method for making a conclusion (if you've ever taken a science class you should know this). I made an observation (not of all black people but of a set group of black people, as scientists do) and found that about 80% of them act a certain way i.e. ghetto. Therefore my conclusion is that most black people act this way and make a living stealing, doing and selling drugs, and just overall violence. If you don't like it because it doesn't include "all" black people then tough. No real scientist would include all black people either. But I guarentee if they do a controlled study (somewhat of a man off the street thing) with 100 black people 80 of them would act this way.
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