In Tibet the Tibetans are opressed by the Chinese.
In Paletine the Palestinians are oppresed by the Israelis.
Over time their countries have been occupied and it has created many problems for both sides.
They both face the same expiriences of Terror and Struggle.
They are also looking for a Goverment that serves the intrest of their Culture.
We see, there are several similarities.
Quote: from carracer at 8:21 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 8:18 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from carracer at 7:45 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 8:38 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 What was this a picture of? The Children in Gaza were without Power. So they were Protesting with Candles. I wish you would look at this from both sides. Part of the reason they are in such dire situations, is because of their own government systems. Obviously some of these communities are impoverished. Something I bet you didn't know though, is that there are at the same time Israeli refugee camps filled with jews and christians that are in just as bad situations. I am looking at it from both sides. I would like Both parties to just be in a better situation.
Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 8:18 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from carracer at 7:45 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 8:38 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 What was this a picture of? The Children in Gaza were without Power. So they were Protesting with Candles. I wish you would look at this from both sides. Part of the reason they are in such dire situations, is because of their own government systems. Obviously some of these communities are impoverished. Something I bet you didn't know though, is that there are at the same time Israeli refugee camps filled with jews and christians that are in just as bad situations.
Quote: from carracer at 7:45 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 8:38 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 What was this a picture of? The Children in Gaza were without Power. So they were Protesting with Candles.
Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 8:38 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 What was this a picture of?
What was this a picture of?
So they were Protesting with Candles.
I wish you would look at this from both sides. Part of the reason they are in such dire situations, is because of their own government systems.
Obviously some of these communities are impoverished. Something I bet you didn't know though, is that there are at the same time Israeli refugee camps filled with jews and christians that are in just as bad situations.
I would like Both parties to just be in a better situation.
As do I. I just don't believe that you are advocating it from both sides. You don't advocate the israelis who are in equally dire situations. Like in Sderot, a southern israeli town that is hit by hundreds of rockets a week out of Gaza. You always hear on the news about someone whose limbs got blown off, or a rocket that fell into someone's house.
Quote: from carracer at 7:47 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 7:40 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from carracer at 7:31 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 7:58 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:57 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:55 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:54 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:52 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 In Paletine There is no Palestine. Build a bridge get over it. There and was a Palestine. Palestine is the home of the Palestinians. Palestinian territories have been occupied by Israel since the late 40's. Its israeli territory. THey just let Palestinians use it. Thats not true. Israel did not exist until the Late 40's. Palestine has existed long before that and existed until that time. HAHAHAHA! You fail. "Palestine" was a british mandate. It was called "Palestine" by the british. Before that it had various names http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html (I just found this^) Please don't talk about things you don't know about. The name Palestine has been used to refer to that area since roman times. Masada2000 is obviously not a credible link. http://palestinefacts.org/pf_early_palestine_name_origin.php Only after the Jewish kingdoms under the Roman Empire fell. Can you provide a link that is not overly Pro Israel or Pro Palestine. Due to the fact of the Sources and Additional readings below it.
Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 7:40 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from carracer at 7:31 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 7:58 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:57 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:55 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:54 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:52 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 In Paletine There is no Palestine. Build a bridge get over it. There and was a Palestine. Palestine is the home of the Palestinians. Palestinian territories have been occupied by Israel since the late 40's. Its israeli territory. THey just let Palestinians use it. Thats not true. Israel did not exist until the Late 40's. Palestine has existed long before that and existed until that time. HAHAHAHA! You fail. "Palestine" was a british mandate. It was called "Palestine" by the british. Before that it had various names http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html (I just found this^) Please don't talk about things you don't know about. The name Palestine has been used to refer to that area since roman times. Masada2000 is obviously not a credible link. http://palestinefacts.org/pf_early_palestine_name_origin.php Only after the Jewish kingdoms under the Roman Empire fell.
Quote: from carracer at 7:31 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 7:58 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:57 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:55 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:54 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:52 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 In Paletine There is no Palestine. Build a bridge get over it. There and was a Palestine. Palestine is the home of the Palestinians. Palestinian territories have been occupied by Israel since the late 40's. Its israeli territory. THey just let Palestinians use it. Thats not true. Israel did not exist until the Late 40's. Palestine has existed long before that and existed until that time. HAHAHAHA! You fail. "Palestine" was a british mandate. It was called "Palestine" by the british. Before that it had various names http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html (I just found this^) Please don't talk about things you don't know about. The name Palestine has been used to refer to that area since roman times. Masada2000 is obviously not a credible link.
Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 7:58 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:57 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:55 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:54 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:52 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 In Paletine There is no Palestine. Build a bridge get over it. There and was a Palestine. Palestine is the home of the Palestinians. Palestinian territories have been occupied by Israel since the late 40's. Its israeli territory. THey just let Palestinians use it. Thats not true. Israel did not exist until the Late 40's. Palestine has existed long before that and existed until that time. HAHAHAHA! You fail. "Palestine" was a british mandate. It was called "Palestine" by the british. Before that it had various names http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html (I just found this^) Please don't talk about things you don't know about.
Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:57 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:55 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:54 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:52 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 In Paletine There is no Palestine. Build a bridge get over it. There and was a Palestine. Palestine is the home of the Palestinians. Palestinian territories have been occupied by Israel since the late 40's. Its israeli territory. THey just let Palestinians use it. Thats not true. Israel did not exist until the Late 40's. Palestine has existed long before that and existed until that time.
Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:55 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:54 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:52 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 In Paletine There is no Palestine. Build a bridge get over it. There and was a Palestine. Palestine is the home of the Palestinians. Palestinian territories have been occupied by Israel since the late 40's. Its israeli territory. THey just let Palestinians use it.
Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:54 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:52 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 In Paletine There is no Palestine. Build a bridge get over it. There and was a Palestine. Palestine is the home of the Palestinians. Palestinian territories have been occupied by Israel since the late 40's.
Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:52 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 In Paletine There is no Palestine. Build a bridge get over it.
In Paletine
There is no Palestine.
Build a bridge get over it.
Palestine is the home of the Palestinians.
Palestinian territories have been occupied by Israel since the late 40's.
Its israeli territory. THey just let Palestinians use it.
Israel did not exist until the Late 40's.
Palestine has existed long before that and existed until that time.
HAHAHAHA! You fail.
"Palestine" was a british mandate. It was called "Palestine" by the british.
Before that it had various names
http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html
(I just found this^)
Please don't talk about things you don't know about.
Masada2000 is obviously not a credible link.
http://palestinefacts.org/pf_early_palestine_name_origin.php
Only after the Jewish kingdoms under the Roman Empire fell.
Due to the fact of the Sources and Additional readings below it.
When you find one, let me know.
I don't think an unbiased link exists on this planet.
Quote: from carracer at 7:34 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from Raza say at 8:34 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 8:21 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 'massacres' like the one you talk about in 2003 happen because terrorist organisations set up base clost to schools, hospitals and densely populated areas. I'm not going to continue arguing with you about this because i have better things to do with my life. But hopefully one day you will go to Israel and realise that you are oh so wrong What are your sources of information? Dude, all posts that you made are biased and have some major flaws. First of all to begin with Palestenians living in Gaza strip or West bank are not financially capable of "producing bombs" to throw at Israel, so you just made up a story there, didn't you? These Palestenians retaliate only through rocks, and in return face the missiles of Israel which inevitably results in collateral damage, which can not be justified at all in this case. Get it straight, please. You snatch someone's land, abuse their human rights (innocent Palestenians detained), and don't even let them live peacefully in the somewhat "land" they can claim their own. It just takes a sane human being to differ right from wrong. -- OP, the Kashmir problem is pretty much the same. Except that you know, things like Katuysha rockets are constantly being smuggled into palestinian lands from countries like Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon. Don't kid yourself. There are palestinian terrorist groups that are fairly well armed. No one has appeased for Terrorist groups on this thread. Calling for the Independence and freedom of Palestinian Home land is not advocating Terrorism towards the Israeli people. If Palestinians were to do the same thing that Israel has done to them for the past 41 years it would be very sad. An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
Quote: from Raza say at 8:34 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 8:21 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 'massacres' like the one you talk about in 2003 happen because terrorist organisations set up base clost to schools, hospitals and densely populated areas. I'm not going to continue arguing with you about this because i have better things to do with my life. But hopefully one day you will go to Israel and realise that you are oh so wrong What are your sources of information? Dude, all posts that you made are biased and have some major flaws. First of all to begin with Palestenians living in Gaza strip or West bank are not financially capable of "producing bombs" to throw at Israel, so you just made up a story there, didn't you? These Palestenians retaliate only through rocks, and in return face the missiles of Israel which inevitably results in collateral damage, which can not be justified at all in this case. Get it straight, please. You snatch someone's land, abuse their human rights (innocent Palestenians detained), and don't even let them live peacefully in the somewhat "land" they can claim their own. It just takes a sane human being to differ right from wrong. -- OP, the Kashmir problem is pretty much the same. Except that you know, things like Katuysha rockets are constantly being smuggled into palestinian lands from countries like Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon. Don't kid yourself. There are palestinian terrorist groups that are fairly well armed.
Quote: from Faizza17 at 8:21 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 'massacres' like the one you talk about in 2003 happen because terrorist organisations set up base clost to schools, hospitals and densely populated areas. I'm not going to continue arguing with you about this because i have better things to do with my life. But hopefully one day you will go to Israel and realise that you are oh so wrong What are your sources of information? Dude, all posts that you made are biased and have some major flaws. First of all to begin with Palestenians living in Gaza strip or West bank are not financially capable of "producing bombs" to throw at Israel, so you just made up a story there, didn't you? These Palestenians retaliate only through rocks, and in return face the missiles of Israel which inevitably results in collateral damage, which can not be justified at all in this case. Get it straight, please. You snatch someone's land, abuse their human rights (innocent Palestenians detained), and don't even let them live peacefully in the somewhat "land" they can claim their own. It just takes a sane human being to differ right from wrong. -- OP, the Kashmir problem is pretty much the same.
'massacres' like the one you talk about in 2003 happen because terrorist organisations set up base clost to schools, hospitals and densely populated areas. I'm not going to continue arguing with you about this because i have better things to do with my life. But hopefully one day you will go to Israel and realise that you are oh so wrong
I'm not going to continue arguing with you about this because i have better things to do with my life. But hopefully one day you will go to Israel and realise that you are oh so wrong
Except that you know, things like Katuysha rockets are constantly being smuggled into palestinian lands from countries like Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon.
Don't kid yourself. There are palestinian terrorist groups that are fairly well armed.
Calling for the Independence and freedom of Palestinian Home land is not advocating Terrorism towards the Israeli people.
If Palestinians were to do the same thing that Israel has done to them for the past 41 years it would be very sad.
An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
Do you really think that the Palestinians have done nothing to the Israelis? The only reason Israel does anything to the Palestinians, is because the Palestinians have been violent. Israel has also repeatedly tried to come up with a solution with palestinian leaders for a homeland. There are trying to reconsider one right now.
No matter how much land is offered, the palestinian terms usually include Jerusalem (The only reason Jews wanted to be there in the first place) or are completely violent (like we will push the israelis into the sea).
Quote: from carracer at 7:34 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from Raza say at 8:34 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 8:21 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 'massacres' like the one you talk about in 2003 happen because terrorist organisations set up base clost to schools, hospitals and densely populated areas. I'm not going to continue arguing with you about this because i have better things to do with my life. But hopefully one day you will go to Israel and realise that you are oh so wrong What are your sources of information? Dude, all posts that you made are biased and have some major flaws. First of all to begin with Palestenians living in Gaza strip or West bank are not financially capable of "producing bombs" to throw at Israel, so you just made up a story there, didn't you? These Palestenians retaliate only through rocks, and in return face the missiles of Israel which inevitably results in collateral damage, which can not be justified at all in this case. Get it straight, please. You snatch someone's land, abuse their human rights (innocent Palestenians detained), and don't even let them live peacefully in the somewhat "land" they can claim their own. It just takes a sane human being to differ right from wrong. -- OP, the Kashmir problem is pretty much the same. Except that you know, things like Katuysha rockets are constantly being smuggled into palestinian lands from countries like Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon. Don't kid yourself. There are palestinian terrorist groups that are fairly well armed. No one has appeased for Terrorist groups on this thread. Calling for the Independence and freedom of Palestinian Home land is not advocating Terrorism towards the Israeli people. If Palestinians were to do the same thing that Israel has done to them for the past 60 years it would be very sad. An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
If Palestinians were to do the same thing that Israel has done to them for the past 60 years it would be very sad.
Quote: from Faizza17 at 8:04 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 3:00 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:58 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:57 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:56 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:53 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from latin muscle at 7:53 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 blah blah blah you are such an anti-semite. Mini hitler. How? I have nothing wrong with the Jewish. With the Jewish people you mean? Thats what I meant. But I do have a Problem with the Israeli state for various reasons. what is your probelm with the Israeli state? First we have what has happened over time in the Gaza strip. Then we have how Israel has discriminated against the Palestinian peoples. I have many problems with Israel due to the fact is a state of intolorence and violence. Intolorence and violence? The Israeli Defence Force is purely a defence force. When Palestinians are throwing bombs over the borders would you just ignore it or protect the people if Israel? What Israel is doing is defending their country. They have been very leniant and have negotiated and given a fair amount of land to the Palestinians. How do the Palestinians treat that land? LIKE SHIT! Have you ever seen it? They treat it like a rubbish tip. Israel has not discriminated against the Palestinians. They have given them a reasonable amount of land. Have not attacked them UNPROVOKED. You may want to read a little more into this before you start ranting how you hate this you hate that. I have read into this. The Militias that have fought the Israelis for 60 years are purely defensive to in that argument. They were protecting their land against against them. When they came to Palestine to steal land. And for that you should honestly read into the Foundations of an Israeli state.
Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 3:00 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:58 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:57 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:56 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:53 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from latin muscle at 7:53 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 blah blah blah you are such an anti-semite. Mini hitler. How? I have nothing wrong with the Jewish. With the Jewish people you mean? Thats what I meant. But I do have a Problem with the Israeli state for various reasons. what is your probelm with the Israeli state? First we have what has happened over time in the Gaza strip. Then we have how Israel has discriminated against the Palestinian peoples. I have many problems with Israel due to the fact is a state of intolorence and violence. Intolorence and violence? The Israeli Defence Force is purely a defence force. When Palestinians are throwing bombs over the borders would you just ignore it or protect the people if Israel? What Israel is doing is defending their country. They have been very leniant and have negotiated and given a fair amount of land to the Palestinians. How do the Palestinians treat that land? LIKE SHIT! Have you ever seen it? They treat it like a rubbish tip. Israel has not discriminated against the Palestinians. They have given them a reasonable amount of land. Have not attacked them UNPROVOKED. You may want to read a little more into this before you start ranting how you hate this you hate that.
Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:58 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:57 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:56 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:53 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from latin muscle at 7:53 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 blah blah blah you are such an anti-semite. Mini hitler. How? I have nothing wrong with the Jewish. With the Jewish people you mean? Thats what I meant. But I do have a Problem with the Israeli state for various reasons. what is your probelm with the Israeli state? First we have what has happened over time in the Gaza strip. Then we have how Israel has discriminated against the Palestinian peoples. I have many problems with Israel due to the fact is a state of intolorence and violence.
Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:57 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:56 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:53 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from latin muscle at 7:53 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 blah blah blah you are such an anti-semite. Mini hitler. How? I have nothing wrong with the Jewish. With the Jewish people you mean? Thats what I meant. But I do have a Problem with the Israeli state for various reasons. what is your probelm with the Israeli state?
Quote: from Faizza17 at 7:56 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:53 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from latin muscle at 7:53 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 blah blah blah you are such an anti-semite. Mini hitler. How? I have nothing wrong with the Jewish. With the Jewish people you mean? Thats what I meant. But I do have a Problem with the Israeli state for various reasons.
Quote: from ImConfusedForSure at 2:53 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from latin muscle at 7:53 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 blah blah blah you are such an anti-semite. Mini hitler. How? I have nothing wrong with the Jewish. With the Jewish people you mean?
Quote: from latin muscle at 7:53 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 blah blah blah you are such an anti-semite. Mini hitler. How? I have nothing wrong with the Jewish.
blah blah blah you are such an anti-semite. Mini hitler.
Mini hitler.
I have nothing wrong with the Jewish.
With the Jewish people you mean?
But I do have a Problem with the Israeli state for various reasons.
what is your probelm with the Israeli state?
Then we have how Israel has discriminated against the Palestinian peoples.
I have many problems with Israel due to the fact is a state of intolorence and violence.
Intolorence and violence?
The Israeli Defence Force is purely a defence force. When Palestinians are throwing bombs over the borders would you just ignore it or protect the people if Israel? What Israel is doing is defending their country.
They have been very leniant and have negotiated and given a fair amount of land to the Palestinians. How do the Palestinians treat that land? LIKE SHIT! Have you ever seen it? They treat it like a rubbish tip.
Israel has not discriminated against the Palestinians. They have given them a reasonable amount of land. Have not attacked them UNPROVOKED.
You may want to read a little more into this before you start ranting how you hate this you hate that.
The Militias that have fought the Israelis for 60 years are purely defensive to in that argument.
They were protecting their land against against them.
When they came to Palestine to steal land.
And for that you should honestly read into the Foundations of an Israeli state.
Except that you know, zionists bought land from the Arabs living there.
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