Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic why are africans the most hated minority? Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]jakelong[/m] at 11:35 pm on Dec. 29, 2008[quote]Quote: from [m]Seafercat[/m] at 2:17 am on Dec. 29, 2008[quote] THOSE particular blacks probably didn't whine, [/quote]Then why are they hated?[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post Anonymous Posted at 11:21 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 you can't dispute the fact that they're the most hated

Replies imatwirp Posted at 7:51 pm on Jan. 30, 2009 Statistically speaking, African American people have the most of their own below poverty level. And statistics show that any race below poverty levels will more likely be into violence, and will be less educated, and will not move up in class as easily. They are somewhat stuck where they are. And since african americans hold the majority in the first category, the pretty much are guaranteed the majority in the second as well. No Pun Intended Whatsoever. It is the same as saying that the Japanese and Chinese have some of the smartest and most intelligent people in the world. Not because of race, but because they send their children to school for 14+ hrs a day. mama16advice Posted at 6:55 pm on Jan. 29, 2009 All blacks arent gangbangers...there are some whites that do that also. All blacks dont whine and bitch....whites do that too. I dont think we are the most hated...I think all minorities are hated in some degree. Whites unfortunatly have the upper hand in society. Some blacks feel that sometimes when something is said...that it is racist. I dont always feel that way. Sometimes I think they are rather ridiculous. But thats the way it is. O well. lovelovelove Posted at 5:12 pm on Jan. 29, 2009 Quote: from Lover1 at 11:23 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 I thought Arabs were the most hated. Yeah, "Borat" proved this.. Addicted 2 Candy Posted at 5:01 pm on Jan. 29, 2009 well obamas president now so all u black haters can kiss our ass Aerorobyn Posted at 5:33 am on Jan. 29, 2009 Not all blacks (or African Americans) are hated. Only the ones that think they can live off of government welfare, don't have to work--they just have babies, sell drugs and steal things for money--and basically, just the ones that don't even try at life. Example: -Will Smith: Good. He made a future for himself. -Tara (a girl I know): Good. She's put herself through college, going to law school. -De'la'quishia (someone I don't know, don't wanna know): Bad! This is someone who lives in the projects, and has only worked one job in their lifetime--which was 10 years ago at McDonalds! Chava Posted at 5:16 am on Jan. 29, 2009 Over the period of history white skinned people have been enslaved longer overall than blacks. brownsugerr Posted at 4:28 pm on Jan. 28, 2009 wait are we talking about african americans or africans? brownsugerr Posted at 4:25 pm on Jan. 28, 2009 Quote: from thetruthteller at 3:12 am on Dec. 29, 2008 Blacks got the lowest iq and they commit the most crimes. They hardly do anything constructive for society. They are basicly parasites if we are honest here. you're really ignorant. and there is a difference between blacks and africans fyi jakelong Posted at 8:50 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 Quote: from kidd rune at 1:09 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 And Muslim slave traders enslaved Whites along the Mediterranean just for not being Muslims But once they converted to Islam they were freed. And what was the race of those slave traders? Besides I thought we were speaking of the US. trying to switch topics again? and the total slave count is LARGER than the number taken to the US. Proof? Was it in the US? They were better in the fields. Oh good. So you have a good excuse right there is that it? I didn't say I felt guilty... So why bring up guilt? http://www.ipsnews.net/africa/nota.asp?idnews=44436 So "Call for reparations" means they ACTUALLY got it? But each one that had a racial purpose would NOT have happened. How many of these had a PURELY RACIAL pupose as opposed to combined with ETHNIC issue? If they are separated from other races the hatred towards the other race couldn't exist. No country is completely isolated. What would prevent them from hating their neighboring country which is multiracial or of another race? The Hutus and the Tutsis were technically of the same exact race. But they were taught to view each other as different.  They had segreagated each other because their Belgians colonizers saw one group as slightly less dark than the other and therefore as "superior". The segregation made the 2 groups hate each other even more until they just blew up and massacred each other. Segregation doesn't prevent hate and violence and war. It INCREASES them. http://www.harleyc.com/duotang/docs/burundiPaper.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide Here is a testimony of a Rwanda genocide survivor Before 1959, Hutus and Tutsis got on well together. There was no problem at all. The Hutus were not mean, it was other people who taught them bad things. They taught them first to burn houses and then, thinking that was not enough, they taught them to kill. I think things will get better, now that segregation no longer exists. In the past, we had our race written on our identity cards; first it said which clan a person belonged to, then later they changed it to race. Today, it has been removed; if things continue this way, they will get better. We fight segregation today. People are one. Children are taught as one, taught the same things by the same teacher. If people are united at such an early stage, they will not become separated again. Division is created by bad leadership. The Rwandan government together with the church and other church related organization have embarked themselves in teaching Rwandan to forgive and fight against segregation. This gives me hope. I do have hope in the future. The most important thing everyone asks for is peace - even if you have only a little to eat, to be able to eat it in peace. Even though I am old, I ask for peace and I have it now. I am sad, but I have peace. I am in a peaceful count http://www.prairievineyard.ca/stories_rwanda.htm kidd rune Posted at 1:09 pm on Jan. 11, 2009 That is because 1. Blacks were enslaved for a much longer period overall 2. Blacks were enslaved for the mere fact of BEING black. Many laws made the mere fact of being black an AUTOMATIC slave. I gave you a lot of links and info which explained how and why so don't pretend you don't know them. 3. Irish ppl were enslaved under British rule in Ireland not as much in the US And Muslim slave traders enslaved Whites along the Mediterranean just for not being Muslims - and the total slave count is LARGER than the number taken to the US. Part of the reason is that blacks were enlsaved for being black because it was easier to KEEP TRACK of them because of their noticeable color. So white slavers brought it on themselves by TARGETTING blacks, They were better in the fields. Then why bring it up? I didn't say I felt guilty... Who? Negroes. http://www.ipsnews.net/africa/nota.asp?idnews=44436 So? Many many more wars started simply because of difference of ethnicity, land disputes and religious conflict. But each one that had a racial purpose would NOT have happened. And having a 100% white nation will not necessarily eliminate race as a factor in a war if that particular nation choose to go to war. If they go to war with another country of 100% another race, it is quite possible that race could become a factor or make things worse between the 2 countries. The only way to completely eliminate race as a possible issue in any war is either to - have the WHOLE WORLD be a single race or - make sure racism is completely eliminated from any person's heart. Is that what you really want? If they are separated from other races the hatred towards the other race couldn't exist. Ethnicity is more specific than race. There are many many more wars betweens different ethnicities than between different races. Study more history. Race has too many meanings. Most of the time you are not even clear which definition you are using. Ethnicity is chosen. There is no possible way to know someones ethnicity without asking them (And that's in the case that they don't lie). Planned or not it still occured. Or are you denying that? Genocide -systematic killing of a racial or cultural group To be systematic there must have been a plan or method of this - there wasn't. Prove it. You gave this definition of ethnicity: Code: sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like It gives "Religion" as an example. So? How do you call that a genocide? You see something about a minimum number to fit the definition? We have to be realistic. A few people killed in a small town isn't enough to be considered genocide. A genocide must be a PLANNED killing of a certain group - and it's usually understood that there's a high death count. It is still a massacre. We're not talking about massacres. Are you the one who decides? Nope. But it's usually understood that a large number of people died. Don't confuse a massacre with a genocide. We are just talking o wars and genocides. Do you need the UN stamp of defnition? Does a massacre WITHIN a race make any less a bad thing?   It doesn't make it good, no, but they are LESS COMMON and result in LESS DEATHS. No argument from me! Do you have problem with that? Well you just defied all scientific study on their racial makeup. Don't worry - it's ok :D Expando1 Posted at 9:14 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from Anonymous at 11:21 pm on Dec. 28, 2008 you can't dispute the opinion that they're the most hated \fixed jakelong Posted at 9:03 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from kidd rune at 8:00 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Negroes make a larger fuss about being enslaved than Irishmen - when both were enslaved in US history. That is because 1. Blacks were enslaved for a much longer period overall 2. Blacks were enslaved for the mere fact of BEING black. Many laws made the mere fact of being black an AUTOMATIC slave. I gave you a lot of links and info which explained how and why so don't pretend you don't know them. 3. Irish ppl were enslaved under British rule in Ireland not as much in the US It's because Irish are Whites and they were enslaved by mostly Whites - but Negroes aren't White. Part of the reason is that blacks were enlsaved for being black because it was easier to KEEP TRACK of them because of their noticeable color. So white slavers brought it on themselves by TARGETTING blacks, Not really. Then why bring it up? And they HAVE received reparations. Who? I meant that conflicts wouldn't start due to race - I KNOW that many wars DID NOT have race as a factor - but some DID and those could have never happened. So? Many many more wars started simply because of difference of ethnicity, land disputes and religious conflict. And having a 100% white nation will not necessarily eliminate race as a factor in a war if that particular nation choose to go to war. If they go to war with another country of 100% another race, it is quite possible that race could become a factor or make things worse between the 2 countries. The only way to completely eliminate race as a possible issue in any war is either to - have the WHOLE WORLD be a single race or - make sure racism is completely eliminated from any person's heart. Is that what you really want? They classified themselves accordingly as different races. Nope. They classified themselves according to ethnicity. NOT race. Race is a classification of humans based on relatedness. Any ethnicity can be a race unless there is something like religion or culture or nationality involved - and THAT is something you choose. Ethnicity is more specific than race. There are many many more wars betweens different ethnicities than between different races. Study more history. Race has too many meanings. Most of the time you are not even clear which definition you are using. race2   /reɪs/ Show Spelled Pronunciation  [reys] Show IPA Pronunciation   -noun 1. a group of persons related by common descent or heredity. 2. a population so related. 3. Anthropology. a. any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics: no longer in technical use. b. an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, esp. formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups. c. a human population partially isolated reproductively from other populations, whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans. 4. a group of tribes or peoples forming an ethnic stock: the Slavic race.   5. any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race.   6. the human race or family; humankind: Nuclear weapons pose a threat to the race.   7. Zoology. a variety; subspecies. 8. a natural kind of living creature: the race of fishes.   9. any group, class, or kind, esp. of persons: Journalists are an interesting race. Ethnicity Identity with or membership in a particular racial, national, or cultural group and observance of that group's customs, beliefs, and language. eth⋅nic    -adjective 1. pertaining to or characteristic of a people, esp. a group (ethnic group) sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like. 2. referring to the origin, classification, characteristics, etc., of such groups. 3. being a member of an ethnic group, esp. of a group that is a minority within a larger society: ethnic Chinese in San Francisco.   4. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of members of such a group. 5. belonging to or deriving from the cultural, racial, religious, or linguistic traditions of a people or country: ethnic dances.   Well there was no planned genocide or systematic extermination. Planned or not it still occured. Or are you denying that? They did. Prove it. And you HAVE to be kidding me. Most of these have less than 100 deaths! So? Genocide is the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. You see something about a minimum number to fit the definition? If it is ONLY about certain people of a certain religion in a certain town - it is NOT a genocide. It is still a massacre. Genocide is meant to define exterminations of a large number of people - NOT massacres. Are you the one who decides? We're talking about formally declared wars and genocides (not massacres). We are just talking o wars and genocides. Do you need the UN stamp of defnition? Does a massacre WITHIN a race make any less a bad thing?   But didn't you say Jews were White? So Palestinians are White too... :D No argument from me! Do you have problem with that? kidd rune Posted at 8:00 pm on Jan. 10, 2009  Tell that to those who are enslaved. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about their descendants. Negroes make a larger fuss about being enslaved than Irishmen - when both were enslaved in US history. It's because Irish are Whites and they were enslaved by mostly Whites - but Negroes aren't White. Do YOU feel guilty for what your ancestors did? Have blacks received ANY reparations for the enslavement? Not really. And they HAVE received reparations. Your words make no sense at all. We are not even speaking of civil wars. Wars DO exist WITHIN races. WWI and all the wars in Europe are complete proof of that. Unless you claim that English and French are a DIFFERENT race? or German and French?   Ever heard of The Hundred year war? Thats a pretty nasty one for you. Race had nothing to do with it and it still lasted a century.   I meant that conflicts wouldn't start due to race - I KNOW that many wars DID NOT have race as a factor - but some DID and those could have never happened. oh yes it can.   Look at Kosovo in 1990s. Serbs mass murdering Croats and vice-versa. Serbs mass murdering Bosnian They classified themselves accordingly as different races. Genocide is not just rlated to race. It is related to ETHNICITY. And for the last time I repeat RACE =/= ETNNICITY Race is a classification of humans based on relatedness. Any ethnicity can be a race unless there is something like religion or culture or nationality involved - and THAT is something you choose. Yet Jews were NOT ABLE to use the fact that they converted to Christianity to avoid genocide. And many German jews were partly white. Well there was no planned genocide or systematic extermination. So the Holocaust really doesn't hold its ground. Check these out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bartholomew's_Day_massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsmill_massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milltown_massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greysteel_massacre Do you believe Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants to be a different ethnic group? They did. And you HAVE to be kidding me. Most of these have less than 100 deaths! Genocide is  the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. If it is ONLY about certain people of a certain religion in a certain town - it is NOT a genocide. Genocide is meant to define exterminations of a large number of people - NOT massacres. Oh and do YOU believe Jews to be DIFFERNT RACE than Palestinians? Because if you don't then there are TONS of massacres examples there... This would be an example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1066_Granada_massacre What about this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Glencoe Scots vs Scots Also explain to me how those guys are a differnt RACE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baylor_Massacre http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4030787.html http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=13093 http://www.wwrn.org/article.php?idd=29339&sec=51&con=18 We're talking about formally declared wars and genocides (not massacres). But didn't you say Jews were White? So Palestinians are White too... :D jakelong Posted at 3:44 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 Quote: from kidd rune at 12:28 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 But that would be quite hard to accomplish because they would have no way of telling the religion of someone - and they can easily fake it. tell that to the Bosnian muslims Even if Hitler DID commit genocide against Jews he openly stated he disliked them because they're ethnocentric - NOT entirely because of their religious beliefs. Yet Jews were NOT ABLE to use the fact that they converted to Christianity to avoid genocide. And many German jews were partly white. How many examples of genocide can you find based solely on religion and not ethnicity, nationality, or race? Check these out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bartholomew's_Day_massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsmill_massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milltown_massacre http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greysteel_massacre Do you believe Irish Catholics and Irish Protestants to be a different ethnic group? Oh and do YOU believe Jews to be DIFFERNT RACE than Palestinians? Because if you don't then there are TONS of massacres examples there... This would be an example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1066_Granada_massacre What about this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Glencoe Scots vs Scots Also explain to me how those guys are a differnt RACE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baylor_Massacre http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4030787.html http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=13093 http://www.wwrn.org/article.php?idd=29339&sec=51&con=18 Chelle92 Posted at 3:25 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 I dont think they are the most hated. I think they are the most feared & emulated. Watch TV, watch how ppl act in every day life and the expressions they use. I gauruntee that 25% of what ppl do/say is derived from something of African American pop culture or African American culture in general. People all over the world copy off of their culture. Most recent 15 of 85 previous replies displayed.