Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Israel and Palestine..Is peace possible. Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]Joep0113[/m] at 1:19 pm on Jan. 2, 2009[quote]Quote: from [m]whoisabs[/m] at 1:17 pm on Jan. 2, 2009[quote]Quote: from [m]Joep0113[/m] at 12:09 pm on Jan. 2, 2009[quote]Quote: from [m]SpM[/m] at 12:43 pm on Jan. 1, 2009[quote]Quote: from [m]Joep0113[/m] at 8:40 pm on Jan. 1, 2009[quote]No Palestine's will always hate Israel and Israel will always hate Palestine. Its the way its been for hundreds of years and its not going to end any time soon, if your looking to blame someone blame the UK for splitting Israel and Palestine into two separate countries instead of making it all Israeli way back when.[/quote]   Israel hasn't even existed for hundreds of years. :plain:[/quote]I meant the Jewish people not Israel the country lulz, my bad.[/quote] Keep up the lies like a good little zionist.[/quote]Im Lutheran, nice try though.   [/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post HealingHeart302 Posted at 12:38 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 I have two questions. Is it possible for Muslims to completley love Jewish people, and for there not to be any hard feelings. And is it possible for Jewish people to love Muslims, and have no hard feelings. I mean if they ever do reach peace, do you think that the hard feelings towards eachother can disappear. I mean, I am a Muslim, and an Arab, I hurt for Palestine. And for me, Israel is basically the bad guy in this. But It is natural to feel this way. I mean, an Israeli is going to stand up for Israel, no matter what the case right? We can't stand against our own people. Two questions: Is it possible for Jews and Muslims to love eachother, and not just pretend. Number two: Is peace ever going to come between Palestine and Israel.

Replies ocho cinco Posted at 12:40 am on Jan. 3, 2009 Jews and Muslims have been fighting for 1300 years. They're just fucked. carracer Posted at 12:32 am on Jan. 3, 2009 Quote: from whoisabs at 12:26 am on Jan. 3, 2009 Quote: from kidd rune at 6:07 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Really only the people i met that are Zionist are Jewish. A good portion of Zionists aren't Jewish at all. When you mix together facts such as 'jews' being such a tiny global minority with the fact that many religious jews oppose zionism, it then becomes hard to point to where most of the zionist numbers come from. Then again how many of those who call themselves 'jews' are even followers of the jewish faith? "with the fact that many religious jews oppose zionism," Lmao. Many. Just the neturei karta. http://www.nkusa.org/ The united states and israel hold the majority of jews on the planet. It is really not that impossible. whoisabs Posted at 12:26 am on Jan. 3, 2009 Quote: from kidd rune at 6:07 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Really only the people i met that are Zionist are Jewish. A good portion of Zionists aren't Jewish at all. When you mix together facts such as 'jews' being such a tiny global minority with the fact that many religious jews oppose zionism, it then becomes hard to point to where most of the zionist numbers come from. Then again how many of those who call themselves 'jews' are even followers of the jewish faith? kidd rune Posted at 6:07 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Really only the people i met that are Zionist are Jewish. A good portion of Zionists aren't Jewish at all. jakelong Posted at 3:04 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from carracer at 2:58 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from whoisabs at 1:19 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Not sure what that has to do with the fact that you're a zionist. What did he lie about? Judaism is one of the worlds oldest religions! lmao That is very much a truth. Don't forget if you don't hate Israel 100% you MUST be a zionist     jakelong Posted at 3:02 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from SpM at 12:39 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 Stop equating Jew with Israeli and Muslim with Palestinian. It's dishonest. I agree here. carracer Posted at 2:58 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from whoisabs at 1:19 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Not sure what that has to do with the fact that you're a zionist. What did he lie about? Judaism is one of the worlds oldest religions! lmao That is very much a truth. jakelong Posted at 1:48 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 1. Is it possible? Answer: yes if it is possible but not probable at least not right now. For that a lot of laws have to change. Like those that forbid marriage between Palestinians and Israelis inside Israel, Those laws are so stupid and really they remind me of the Nuremberg laws in so many ways. http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/05/15/divided-loyalties-high-court-upholds-mixed-marriage-ban/ If ppl who love each other can't even marry and live together then things are really fucked up. So how do you except ppl to even just get along with laws like that? 2. Is peace ever going to come to Israel? yes but for that to happen both Israeli and Palestinans BOTH would have to - Let go of the past and all grudges - See what is COMMON between them instead of what separates them - Be willing to make the first move towards reconciliation and friendship I know some ppl think Isarelis and Palestinians don't have a lot in common. But contrary to what they think there ARE a lot of Israelis who ARE semitic. Not all of them but many of them. But I guess the real problem is not even that. I think one of the problems is that because so many Jews have been gone so many centuries ago from the area sometimes they really have a DIFFERENT CULTURE than Palestinians at this point, especially the recent Israeli immigrants from Russia after the 1990s. They have a different look on life and ideas and thinking what is important etc... I also know some ppl think they are a different "race". But I don't even think that's the problem even if it's true. Are Indians and Pakistanis really different in race? Not that much. Yet they hate each other almost as much as Israelis and Palestinians. Sometimes even more. So the real problem is not even that but the fact that 1. Laws in Israel are unjust and retarded against Palestinians and NEED TO CHANGE 2. The Israeli gov and the Hamas gov are more interested in destroying each other than in making things positive and good for EVERYONE (even their own ppl). 3. People get stuck in keeping grudges and hate and don't want to forgive and do the right thing. Basically another problem is ppl who like to FUEL and INCREASE and MAINTAIN the difference and the hate and the conflict between the 2 groups for their own personal agenda (like the 2 members who posted just above me for example) I like Golo's answer the best among the posts here. Joep0113 Posted at 1:24 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Cuz im not a Zionist maybe? Really only the people i met that are Zionist are Jewish. Haven't met any Lutheran Zionists. whoisabs Posted at 1:19 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Not sure what that has to do with the fact that you're a zionist. Joep0113 Posted at 1:19 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from whoisabs at 1:17 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from Joep0113 at 12:09 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from SpM at 12:43 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 Quote: from Joep0113 at 8:40 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 No Palestine's will always hate Israel and Israel will always hate Palestine. Its the way its been for hundreds of years and its not going to end any time soon, if your looking to blame someone blame the UK for splitting Israel and Palestine into two separate countries instead of making it all Israeli way back when.   Israel hasn't even existed for hundreds of years. I meant the Jewish people not Israel the country lulz, my bad. Keep up the lies like a good little zionist. Im Lutheran, nice try though.   whoisabs Posted at 1:17 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from Joep0113 at 12:09 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from SpM at 12:43 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 Quote: from Joep0113 at 8:40 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 No Palestine's will always hate Israel and Israel will always hate Palestine. Its the way its been for hundreds of years and its not going to end any time soon, if your looking to blame someone blame the UK for splitting Israel and Palestine into two separate countries instead of making it all Israeli way back when.    Israel hasn't even existed for hundreds of years. I meant the Jewish people not Israel the country lulz, my bad. Keep up the lies like a good little zionist. HeartofJuyoMk2 Posted at 12:34 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Look, there is no moral high ground in this conflict. That was apparent from the get-go. Being a jew i feel a modicum of pain to say this, but Israel was not a good location for a Jewish nation. If the israelis valued life over land, then they would move. There will be peace, but only after one side has lost everything. Joep0113 Posted at 12:09 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 Quote: from SpM at 12:43 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 Quote: from Joep0113 at 8:40 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 No Palestine's will always hate Israel and Israel will always hate Palestine. Its the way its been for hundreds of years and its not going to end any time soon, if your looking to blame someone blame the UK for splitting Israel and Palestine into two separate countries instead of making it all Israeli way back when. Israel hasn't even existed for hundreds of years. I meant the Jewish people not Israel the country lulz, my bad. robdude Posted at 1:18 pm on Jan. 1, 2009 NO...NO Most recent 15 of 25 previous replies displayed.