Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic KR Jewish hatred aside... Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]kidd rune[/m] at 9:56 am on June 23, 2012[quote]Who's talking about conspiracies here? I'm talking about Jews doing what Jews have done for 1000s of years. Collectively, pretty much without much exception. http://golivewire.com/forums/peer-eoinyoy-support-a.html#3 And what these Jews have been doing has been harming American society. They are a negative influence, overall, despite all the good some Jews have done. Think a little bit more open-minded Laurence, they've been kicked out of other nations once every 20 years at least. The Jews are in disproportionately represented by a factor of 10s of times in our media, government, intellectual institutions; Jews were behind all the major cultural-marxist intellectual movements including feminism, race denial, racial integration, gay rights, etc. I'm not saying the Protocols are actually what they claim to be, but it's dishonest to pretend like it's not actually describing what's happening in the world today...[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post The New World Order Posted at 7:39 am on June 20, 2012 Doesn't it seem incoincidental that such a minority group of people have control of high profile industries in the Western world? Obviously they are doing something different?

Replies kidd rune Posted at 9:56 am on June 23, 2012 Who's talking about conspiracies here? I'm talking about Jews doing what Jews have done for 1000s of years. Collectively, pretty much without much exception. http://golivewire.com/forums/peer-eoinyoy-support-a.html#3 And what these Jews have been doing has been harming American society. They are a negative influence, overall, despite all the good some Jews have done. Think a little bit more open-minded Laurence, they've been kicked out of other nations once every 20 years at least. The Jews are in disproportionately represented by a factor of 10s of times in our media, government, intellectual institutions; Jews were behind all the major cultural-marxist intellectual movements including feminism, race denial, racial integration, gay rights, etc. I'm not saying the Protocols are actually what they claim to be, but it's dishonest to pretend like it's not actually describing what's happening in the world today... Laurence Posted at 2:03 am on June 23, 2012 Keyword: "seem" What "seems" to lead to a certain trend or conspiracy may not be rooted in reality. One could equally point out the number of movements which favor "masonic interests," "Vatican interests," "Mormon interests," "Muslim interests..." kidd rune Posted at 10:04 pm on June 21, 2012 Funny how these supposed rouge-Jews aren't predominant in any of the major intellectual movements, and all of the Jew-dominated movements seem to work directly in the interests of Jews. Doesn't make sense if someone doesn't care about their Jewish ancestry. Laurence Posted at 7:10 pm on June 21, 2012 Many Jews have traditionally seeked to set themselves apart from others as part of their original religion. This attitude has often led to cultural and social isolation which often invited ostracism which has fed more and more into their isolation. When one feels set apart and special one has more of an incentive to strive for excellence, to exert one's influence and personality on others. In other words one feels more imbued with the power and the mission to change the world, whether for the better or for the worse. Many Jews who have felt persecuted have thus sought to obtain prominent places in politics, public relations, or the entertainment industry. However many have also sought to succeed in science and technology as well as in classical music and art. Because many Jews were able to change their name and thus hide their origins and blend in within the population in Europe and the United States, they have achieved these lofty goals more readily than their Asian counterparts in those countries in the political realm. Because the United States was more open to European immigration in the early part of the 20th century, Jews were able to be particularly influential in a country which was to become an economic and political world power. These days however, Asians are rising to similar prominence both in their countries of origin and abroad and are gaining political as well as economic power as well (as bobbarr1 strives to remind us time and again). kidd rune Posted at 8:32 pm on June 20, 2012 Even IF Jews support the concept of racial tolerance for everyone because it helps them, that still contradicts nyn's antisemetic comments of Jews ignoring the needs of others and are just looking after their own and their own alone. No it doesn't. They honestly don't believe that nonsense either, hence why Israel doesn't want Blacks in its land. The major motivating factor by far for Jewish involvement and predominance in immigration policy and the relevant intellectual movements preceding it is Jewish ethnic interests. Let's look at a paper for the Center for Immigration Studies by the Jew Stephen Steinlight. Steinlight was the Director of National Affiars for the American Jewish Committee for 5 years - he is no random or dissident Jew. This paper was written by a Jewish leader for his fellow Jews and has some revealing claims that need to be understood. http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/back1301.html "is the emerging new multicultural American nation good for the Jews? Will a country in which enormous demographic and cultural change, fueled by unceasing large-scale non-European immigration, remain one in which Jewish life will continue to flourish as nowhere else in the history of the Diaspora? In an America in which people of color form the plurality, as has already happened in California, most with little or no historical experience with or knowledge of Jews, will Jewish sensitivities continue to enjoy extraordinarily high levels of deference and will Jewish interests continue to receive special protection? Does it matter that the majority non-European immigrants have no historical experience of the Holocaust or knowledge of the persecution of Jews over the ages and see Jews only as the most privileged and powerful of white Americans?" Let those revealing questions sink in for a bit. Steinlight has just claimed that Jewish interests get "Special protection" - that immigrants who don't know about the so-called Holocaust might see the Jews as just another facet of innocent diversity, as "the most privileged and powerful of white Americans." He then asks "how long do we actually believe that nearly 80 percent of the entire foreign aid budget of the United States will go to Israel?" Scroll down a bit and you will see the following quote: "Not that it is the case that our disproportionate political power (pound for pound the greatest of any ethnic/cultural group in America) will erode all at once, or even quickly. We will be able to hang on to it for perhaps a decade or two longer. Unless and until the triumph of campaign finance reform is complete, an extremely unlikely scenario, the great material wealth of the Jewish community will continue to give it significant advantages. We will continue to court and be courted by key figures in Congress." This is a very fascinating paper, as one quickly learns that the elite Jew's entire concern about racial diversity and non-White immigration is about Jewish power and Jewish interests. That's the only thing they care about, and this prominent Jew even admits it! Look at this gem, "For perhaps another generation, an optimistic forecast, the Jewish community is thus in a position where it will be able to divide and conquer and enter into selective coalitions that support our agendas." The motive, ever since the Jews started, was to diversify the America and make it a racially tolerant society so they can "Support our [Jewish] agendas" By an important elite Jew's own admission A few more troublesome quotes: "It is also true that Jewish economic influence and power are disproportionately concentrated in Hollywood, television, and in the news industry, theoretically a boon in terms of the formation of favorable public images of Jews and sensitizing the American people to issues of concern to Jews." Could they have just proved my above bolded claim any more clear? Is this just some "conspiracy" that us "evil neo-Nazi Hitler worshipping anti-Semites" are making up in our heads or is it what the Jews with disproportionate "economic influence and power" are actually doing in this country, and admitting it too? "Finally, I confess that I suspect that MTV, for better of for worse, will prove more powerful with young Muslim immigrants than the mullahs, and that the remarkable material and cultural attractiveness of American life will cause the new immigrants to follow (mostly) in the footsteps of their predecessors." Is this not a boast, saying the Jew-owned MTV has the power to turn young Muslims against there perceived anti-Semitic (or in other terms, anti-Judeo-supremacist-interests) religion? Admitting that these Jews in control of our TV stations have the ability to mold the minds of this nation's youth into a "favorable public [image] of Jews"? I'd ask her if any of her feminazi groups would support a male if he were discriminated against or a member of any ethnic group if they were discriminated against, even if it helps promote tolerence in general.  The answer would be no. Of course, because that would not work in self-interests of Jews and their instrumental role in Feminism. Andrea Dworkin, Betty Friedan, Eve Ensler, Gloria Steinem were the 4 leaders of 2nd wave feminism, all Jews. Much of this was based on Marxist (Marx = Jew, most early proponents of Marxism were Jews) thought: -Gloria Steinem (1934- ); founder, Ms. Magazine. -Bella Abzug (1920-1998); Civil rights and labor attorney elected to Congress (House of Rep.) from New York City; served 1971-1977. -Betty Friedan (1921- ); feminist leader and author of the book "The Feminine Mystique" (1963). -Shulamith Firestone (1945- ); Canadian feminist. Wrote "The Dialectic of Sex" (1970). -Andrea Dworkin (1946- ); radical; apparent lesbian. Author of the book "Intercourse" (1987). -Susan Brownmiller (1935- ); U.S. feminist. Wrote the book "Against Our Will" (1975). -Susan Faludi (1959- ); author of the book "Backlash" (1992). -Naomi Wolf (1962- ); advisor to Al Gore in the 2000 U.S. presidential election. -Emma Goldman (1869-1940); early U.S. feminist. -Ernestine Rose (1810-1892); b. in Poland; early feminist. -Phyllis Chesler (1941- ); U.S. feminist; author of the book "Woman's Inhumanity to Woman" (2002). -Judy Chicago (Cohen) (1939- ); U.S. feminist. Author of the book "The Dinner Party" (1996). -Robin Morgan (1941- ); U.S. feminist. Former editor-in-chief, Ms. magazine. -Letty Cottin Pogrebin (1939- ); U.S. feminist; co-founded Ms. magazine. -Gerda Lerner (1920- ); b. in Austria. -Annie Nathan Meyer (1867-1951); U.S. feminist. -Maud Nathan (1862-1946); sister of Annie Nathan Meyer; U.S. feminist. -Geri Palast (1950- ); chair, Committee on Women in the Global Economy; U.S. feminist. -Rose Schneiderman (1882-1972); b. in Poland. -Anita Pollitzer (1894-1975); U.S. feminist; pal of artist Georgia O'Keeffe. -Gene Boyer (no birthyear available); a founder of N.O.W.; president of Jewish Feminists; U.S. feminist. -Lucy Komisar (1942- ); author of the book "The New Feminism" (1971); U.S. feminist. -Karen Nussbaum (1950- ); (apparently Jewish); leader of 9to5-National Association of Working Women. -Eleanor Flexner (1908-1995); (apparently Jewish--relative is a Zionist); U.S. feminist. -Riane Eisler (1931- ); b. Vienna; author/feminist; (apparently a Jewish-fled Nazi). Author of the book "The Chalice and the Blade" (1987). + many more joule Posted at 7:51 pm on June 20, 2012 Quote: from kidd rune at 3:23 pm on June 20, 2012If Jews "...often ignore the needs or to the detriment of other groups..." and "... a lot of high profile jewish control is a result of just looking after their own and their own alone..." how do you account for the fact that Jews disproportionately support other groups and charities which benefit non-Jews? Yes, for their own interests. The NAACP was pushed and run by Jews because a "racially diverse" society is more tolerant of Jews. Even IF Jews support the concept of racial tolerance for everyone because it helps them, that still contradicts nyn's antisemetic comments of Jews ignoring the needs of others and are just looking after their own and their own alone. I'd ask her if any of her feminazi groups would support a male if he were discriminated against or a member of any ethnic group if they were discriminated against, even if it helps promote tolerence in general.  The answer would be no. kidd rune Posted at 3:23 pm on June 20, 2012 If Jews "...often ignore the needs or to the detriment of other groups..." and "... a lot of high profile jewish control is a result of just looking after their own and their own alone..." how do you account for the fact that Jews disproportionately support other groups and charities which benefit non-Jews? Yes, for their own interests. The NAACP was pushed and run by Jews because a "racially diverse" society is more tolerant of Jews. For example, the Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish organization, is known for taking on issues and cases for anyone, Non-Jews and Jews alike.  Do you know of an feminist, pro-Black or pro_Hispanic group which does that? Please quote where the ADL scum took on issues for Whites. Also, a "Racially tolerant" society is good for the Jews, this is by their own admission. It works in Jewish interests, they wouldn't be doing it en masse otherwise. For example, are you aware of the efforts to stop the bloodshed in Darfur?  That's almost all done by Jewish groups.  There are no Jews involved in the Darfur fighting and it doesn't affect Jews, except to the extent it's a terrible situation which is being ignored by most of the world. Source for this statement? Look what the Sudanese are saying: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3431281,00.html Sudan's defense minister, Abdel Rahim Mohamed Hussein, has accused "24 Jewish organizations" of "fueling the conflict in Darfur" last week in an interview with a Saudi newspaper. Hussein was interviewed during an official state visit to the Saudi kingdom last week. A journalist from Saudi Arabia's Okaz newspaper asked Hussein: "Some people are talking about the penetration of Jewish organizations in Darfur and that there is no conflict there?" "The Darfur issue is being fuelled by 24 Jewish organizations, who are making the largest amount of noise over the issue, and using the Holocaust in their campaigning," the Sudanese defense minister replied. Hussein added that the Darfur conflict was driven by "friction between farmers and herders and shepherds. Among the biggest problems is that of water, which is used to exploit the differences and fuel the conflict." "Are these Jewish groups supporting (the rebels) financially?," the interviewer from Okaz asked Hussein. "Yes, they provide political and material support through their control over the media and across American and British circles," Hussein said, adding that Jewish groups were using "all means to fuel these conflicts." He added that Western reports of 200,000 people dying in Sudan were false, and said: "We talk about 9,000 dead as a result of either government or rebel actions." But how tolerant are the Jews when these Negroes want to go to Israel? http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-considering-deportation-of-sudanese-refugees-to-kenya-1.224096 Israel is considering sending African refugees to Kenya and is engaged in diplomatic talks on the issue. It has also resumed jailing Sudanese refugees who seep into the country along the Egyptian border. However, several people dealing with the refugees doubt that Kenya is interested in accepting them. They said Monday that the plan was probably Israel's alone. The UN is also expected to object. Those oh-so-tolerant Jews! http://tinyurl.com/boflddd JERUSALEM — Surging street violence against African migrants in Israel, including a rampage that an Israeli broadcaster dubbed a "pogrom," drew statements of empathy for the rioters as well as censure from the government on Thursday. Waving Israeli flags and chanting "Deport the Sudanese," residents of a low-income Tel Aviv neighbourhood where many of the border-jumpers from Eritrea, Sudan and South Sudan live held a march late Wednesday that turned violent. Typical corrupt tactics, point fingers at others and exaggerate their crimes and pretend like you're not doing anything. Jews in power in the past century or so have killed far more non-Jews than lives they seemingly have saved. joule Posted at 3:01 pm on June 20, 2012 Quote: from nyn at 8:01 am on June 20, 2012 i always figured it's because you're talking about a very persecuted group that became insular as a way to survive, so they all look out for each other, often while ignoring the needs or to the detriment of other groups, which y'know, made them more hated and it's a bit of a self perpetuating thing and figuring out why they were so persecuted is a little bit chicken and egg but anyway because of that, i think a lot of high profile jewish control is a result of just looking after their own and their own alone and having connections in international communities helped them to build it up, and a bit of a culture that had to be smart and subversive to survive. On the subject of making generalizations... If Jews "...often ignore the needs or to the detriment of other groups..." and "... a lot of high profile jewish control is a result of just looking after their own and their own alone..." how do you account for the fact that Jews disproportionately support other groups and charities which benefit non-Jews? For example, the Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish organization, is known for taking on issues and cases for anyone, Non-Jews and Jews alike.  Do you know of an feminist, pro-Black or pro_Hispanic group which does that? For example, are you aware of the efforts to stop the bloodshed in Darfur?  That's almost all done by Jewish groups.  There are no Jews involved in the Darfur fighting and it doesn't affect Jews, except to the extent it's a terrible situation which is being ignored by most of the world. Yeah, I know, Israel.  Different issue . kidd rune Posted at 10:10 am on June 20, 2012 Quote: from Jim Raynor at 12:52 pm on June 20, 2012 I'm not referring to any of that. What I refer to is a purely american phenomenon. And Jews weren't at the forefront of pushing for Marxism and Marxist-related ideologies and movements such as the NAACP and immigration? Jews were at the forefront of both of these in the USA. And of course you'd lock on to that. What's your agenda? That it's not just a coincidence that a lot of Jews are in high places of power in our institutions such as the Ivy League, the mass media, the political arena, the white house, many of the major political/ideological movements, etc I feel like these Jews with a strong Jewish identity are pushing for what they perceive as Jewish interests. Jim Raynor Posted at 9:52 am on June 20, 2012 Quote: from kidd rune at 1:57 pm on June 20, 2012 Quote: from Jim Raynor at 10:44 am on June 20, 2012 You have nowhere further to look other than fundamentalist christians in power and the Book of Revelations. Got any evidence to support this? Were the fundamentalist Christians the reason why the Bolshevik Revolution was dominated by Jews? Were the fundamentalist Christians the reasons why the biggest mass murderers of the Soviet Union, Lazar Kaganovich (Stalin's top executioner) and Genrikh Yagoda (head of the death camp gulag system), were Jews? I'm not referring to any of that. What I refer to is a purely american phenomenon. And of course you'd lock on to that. What's your agenda? kidd rune Posted at 9:27 am on June 20, 2012 Quote: from Jim Raynor at 10:44 am on June 20, 2012 You have nowhere further to look other than fundamentalist christians in power and the Book of Revelations. Got any evidence to support this? Were the fundamentalist Christians the reason why the Bolshevik Revolution was dominated by Jews? Were the fundamentalist Christians the reasons why the biggest mass murderers of the Soviet Union, Lazar Kaganovich (Stalin's top executioner) and Genrikh Yagoda (head of the death camp gulag system), were Jews? kidd rune Posted at 9:21 am on June 20, 2012 Quote: from nyn at 11:01 am on June 20, 2012 i always figured it's because you're talking about a very persecuted group that became insular as a way to survive, so they all look out for each other, often while ignoring the needs or to the detriment of other groups, which y'know, made them more hated and it's a bit of a self perpetuating thing and figuring out why they were so persecuted is a little bit chicken and egg but anyway because of that, i think a lot of high profile jewish control is a result of just looking after their own and their own alone and having connections in international communities helped them to build it up, and a bit of a culture that had to be smart and subversive to survive. So basically, they're generally ethnocentric and they do what they can to advance their own ethnic interests? Perhaps this explains the Jewish communist mass murders, their pushing and support for many of the major wars, and their dominance in radical ideological movements in the 20th century? Did all of this advance Jewish interests? princesslover Posted at 8:22 am on June 20, 2012 yeah nyn Posted at 8:01 am on June 20, 2012 i always figured it's because you're talking about a very persecuted group that became insular as a way to survive, so they all look out for each other, often while ignoring the needs or to the detriment of other groups, which y'know, made them more hated and it's a bit of a self perpetuating thing and figuring out why they were so persecuted is a little bit chicken and egg but anyway because of that, i think a lot of high profile jewish control is a result of just looking after their own and their own alone and having connections in international communities helped them to build it up, and a bit of a culture that had to be smart and subversive to survive. Jim Raynor Posted at 7:44 am on June 20, 2012 You have nowhere further to look other than fundamentalist christians in power and the Book of Revelations. 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