Quoting Post Topic Nudity in art. for images and avatars. Also clarification on swimwear. Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]Brookie Chookie23[/m] at 4:28 pm on Aug. 21, 2008[quote]Quote: from [m]bighead1991[/m] at 8:42 am on Aug. 22, 2008[quote]Quote: from [m]brookie chookie23[/m] at 12:04 am on Aug. 22, 2008[quote][b][size=4]Some consultation would have been nice.[/size][/b]    If a topic like this had been posted before you removed my >2 year old image months ago (not in the 'past few days' as you noted), allowing me and others an opportunity for input, I would have recommended all previously approved images remain on the servers and for these new rules to be applied to new images only.    It's not fair to go removing old images without explanation, leaving the members to do the detective work themselves and then months later make an official announcement about the new 'rules'.[/quote] Do you know what the image was named? If so I can find out who deleted it, or if you can link it to me I will be able to check it out.[/quote]As I said, it was months ago, so I don't remember. It was 'bikini' something or other. I already went through this (linking to an externally hosted image) with a mod when it happened anyway, and I don't have the link or the image with me now. [quote]The guidelines for these images should be applied to images from now and the past. Images are relevant for there here and now but something like a topic from a long time ago isn't (if a new guideline was brought out and a topic was affected from a long time ago).[/quote]Just as it's not fair to remove topics that were created years ago, it's not fair to remove an image that's been up for years either. You don't remove old topics because it makes other content (images, topics, posts or otherwise) appear out of context and because it is a piece of history. The same goes for images. I had posted this particular image numerous times in the forums and now those posts won't make sense. The image is also a piece of my LiveWire history as it was one of the first images I uploaded here and I had comments dating back 2 years or so. [quote]Someone must of found your image, either reported it to a mod or messaged it. Or a mod came across it when looking at your images in general.[/quote]I figured as much. I can understand with a fresh image, but when the image has been up for over 2 years it's a bit of a surprise.[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post bighead1991 Posted at 11:09 am on Aug. 21, 2008 Over the past few days you may have noticed some avatars or images presented by members and moderators which are of an nude artistic nature.   There has been a lot of discussion between moderators about how we should handle these images, if we should allow them on our servers, if we should have them at all on the site.   The moderation has come to the decision of the following guidelines to be observed of nudity in art and similar things:-   - To disallow any form of nudity in avatars   - To disallow any form of nudity in image baskets.   - To allow nudity (as a link from an external site) if it is present in a reasonable form in art in the midst of a legitimate discussion of art. (No Photographs)     Also there has been some confusing over what we allow for swimwear and similar clothing.   As a moderation team we have decided that we do not want images of people in underwear posted in on the site nor to have swimwear out of context.   - You may not post/upload images of yourself or others in underwear   - You may only post/upload yourself in swimwear for a suitable location, such as at a beach or pool.   We have decided upon this as we don't want pictures on LiveWire of young teenagers simply posing with near to no clothes on, or to post pictures to simply be sexually suggestive.   If you have any questions concerning this please don't hesitate to ask.

Replies Riot Posted at 11:30 am on Oct. 23, 2008 That sounds okay... ManicD Posted at 5:17 pm on Sep. 14, 2008 Quote: from davjs at 8:54 pm on Aug. 21, 2008 This announcement is in line with LiveWire's existing policies on nudity. Thank you big head for the announcement. Sadly, i think many of yoru mods didnt realise this. Your mods really need a lil training in image guidlines at least. Mieux Posted at 4:58 pm on Sep. 1, 2008 All of my favorite avatars have nudity. I mean most of them don't even show genitalia. It's all beautiful art. I hate this policy. ItyBity Posted at 8:58 pm on Aug. 30, 2008 Thats fucking retarded. this site is getting pretty shitty. it used to be cool. not ne more. oh i have another account but forgots the password =p vetgirl thats how i know iv been on here for years. its getting pretty fucking shitty. Brookie Chookie23 Posted at 10:49 pm on Aug. 25, 2008 Quote: from Forever Angel at 1:11 pm on Aug. 26, 2008 Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 5:10 am on Aug. 24, 2008 Next it'll be swearing banned on LW. And here I thought we were the uncensored forum board. There is a guideline for that: (selected) Community Guidelines   "Avoid using vulgar or abusive language"   "Post neither pornography nor nauseating images" Consistent Moderation   "Content guidelines are to be applied equally to every forum"   Duties of LiveWire Moderators   "Support LiveWire's acceptable content policies"   "Serve as examples by being outstanding community members"    http://www.golivewire.com/forums/guidelines.cgi?x=02489681031122191   Dave was pretty glad when he got rid of that advertising company or whatever that wanted us to censor all our posts... Swearing doesn't always = vulgar or abusive, just as nudity doesn't always = pornography. Forever Angel Posted at 8:41 pm on Aug. 25, 2008 Quote: from brookie chookie23 at 5:10 am on Aug. 24, 2008 Next it'll be swearing banned on LW. And here I thought we were the uncensored forum board. There is a guideline for that: (selected) Community Guidelines "Avoid using vulgar or abusive language" "Post neither pornography nor nauseating images" Consistent Moderation "Content guidelines are to be applied equally to every forum" Duties of LiveWire Moderators "Support LiveWire's acceptable content policies" "Serve as examples by being outstanding community members" http://www.golivewire.com/forums/guidelines.cgi?x=02489681031122191 PhoenixFire613 Posted at 8:40 pm on Aug. 25, 2008 I don't see anything wrong with artistic nudity. I see the human body as art, and I know I'm far from being the only one with that opinion. Audrey's avatar was a bit out there, but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Heart92 Posted at 8:34 pm on Aug. 25, 2008 Quote: from SpM at 2:16 pm on Aug. 21, 2008 Are statues included in this? I remember seeing an avatar of Michelangelo's David. I was wondering the same. Micus Posted at 6:45 pm on Aug. 25, 2008 Quote: from CaliKevin at 10:41 am on Aug. 22, 2008 I say we either allow swimwear pictures or we don't. This is what I've been fuckin saying from day one. Brookie Chookie23 Posted at 3:10 am on Aug. 24, 2008 Next it'll be swearing banned on LW. And here I thought we were the uncensored forum board. Bearsy Posted at 2:45 am on Aug. 24, 2008 Yeah we're gonna post APPROPRIATE artistic nudes, not like those pervy buttsecks mods! katyduck Posted at 2:42 am on Aug. 24, 2008 i'd love a good protest. Bearsy Posted at 2:36 am on Aug. 24, 2008 Kk cool Spice Posted at 2:35 am on Aug. 24, 2008 Quote: from Its Bearsy Bitch at 10:32 am on Aug. 24, 2008 yeah and I'm protesting you bitchest Go ahead. I don't agree with the policy. Bearsy Posted at 2:32 am on Aug. 24, 2008 Quote: from UnusualOne at 2:31 am on Aug. 24, 2008 Quote: from katyduck at 10:29 am on Aug. 24, 2008 That should be approved anyway. There's no genitalia or anything showing. "To allow nudity (as a link from an external site) if it is present in a reasonable form in art in the midst of a legitimate discussion of art. (No Photographs) " We didn't do the "no genitalia thing" we did blanket nudity. [ffs] yeah and I'm protesting you bitchest Most recent 15 of 146 previous replies displayed.