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liv21 Posted at 11:39 am on Nov. 8, 2008
Why is it that devout Christians cite Leviticus when claiming that homosexuality is a sin, yet when you bring up stuff like eating pigs or shellfish or selling your daughter into slavery, they say, "Oh, we don't go by the Old Testament anymore."

I don't get it.

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osmoticdespair Posted at 12:19 pm on Nov. 8, 2008
Quote: from liv21 at 7:53 pm on Nov. 8, 2008

Quote: from osmoticdespair at 11:48 am on Nov. 8, 2008


Basically in the NT Paul says that homosexual behavior is a result of general immorality as part of a list of things generally considered bad. Whether that means it itself is immoral or not is a point of contention.

Great, thank you for the info.  Do you happen to know a link for it or something?



"24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is [shameful], and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was [appropriate].
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not [proper];" (Romans 1:24-28)
liv21 Posted at 11:54 am on Nov. 8, 2008
Quote: from barnabas at 11:51 am on Nov. 8, 2008

Quote: from liv21 at 1:46 pm on Nov. 8, 2008

Quote: from 2kewl4u2know at 11:40 am on Nov. 8, 2008

Homosexuality is also referred to as a sin in the New Testament as well.
 

 Where is that?  I've found that parts of the New Testament that say it's "against nature" or they are called "illicit relations," but that's it.


I corinthians 6 gets used often:

9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.


But "homosexuals" has also been translated as "effeminates."

liv21 Posted at 11:53 am on Nov. 8, 2008
Quote: from osmoticdespair at 11:48 am on Nov. 8, 2008

Basically in the NT Paul says that homosexual behavior is a result of general immorality as part of a list of things generally considered bad. Whether that means it itself is immoral or not is a point of contention.

Great, thank you for the info.  Do you happen to know a link for it or something?

2kewl4u2know Posted at 11:53 am on Nov. 8, 2008
1 Corinthians 6 (New International Version)

1If any of you has a dispute with another, dare he take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the saints? 2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! 4Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, appoint as judges even men of little account in the church![a] 5I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? 6But instead, one brother goes to law against another—and this in front of unbelievers!
7The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? 8Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers.

9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Sexual Immorality

12"Everything is permissible for me"—but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"—but I will not be mastered by anything. 13"Food for the stomach and the stomach for food"—but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. 15Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh." 17But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit.
18Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.



Hi Carie Posted at 11:51 am on Nov. 8, 2008
Quote: from liv21 at 1:46 pm on Nov. 8, 2008

Quote: from 2kewl4u2know at 11:40 am on Nov. 8, 2008

Homosexuality is also referred to as a sin in the New Testament as well.

Where is that? I've found that parts of the New Testament that say it's "against nature" or they are called "illicit relations," but that's it.


I corinthians 6 gets used often:

9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

drifting Posted at 11:51 am on Nov. 8, 2008
Quote: from 2kewl4u2know at 2:40 pm on Nov. 8, 2008

Homosexuality is also referred to as a sin in the New Testament as well.

Not all that strongly.

And I think its only mentioned by Paul, who was a known sex hater. He was probably just jealous that the woman didnt dig him, and the men threw rocks at his face.

osmoticdespair Posted at 11:48 am on Nov. 8, 2008
Quote: from liv21 at 7:46 pm on Nov. 8, 2008

Quote: from 2kewl4u2know at 11:40 am on Nov. 8, 2008

Homosexuality is also referred to as a sin in the New Testament as well.

Where is that?  I've found that parts of the New Testament that say it's "against nature" or they are called "illicit relations," but that's it.


Basically in the NT Paul says that homosexual behavior is a result of general immorality as part of a list of things generally considered bad. Whether that means it itself is immoral or not is a point of contention.
liv21 Posted at 11:46 am on Nov. 8, 2008
Quote: from 2kewl4u2know at 11:40 am on Nov. 8, 2008

Homosexuality is also referred to as a sin in the New Testament as well.

Where is that?  I've found that parts of the New Testament that say it's "against nature" or they are called "illicit relations," but that's it.

mindydu0ng Posted at 11:43 am on Nov. 8, 2008
Quote: from 2kewl4u2know at 11:40 am on Nov. 8, 2008

Homosexuality is also referred to as a sin in the New Testament as well.

QFT.

paperskyx Posted at 11:41 am on Nov. 8, 2008
The Bible is fake anyway, so don't worry about it.
Napster the Hacker Posted at 11:41 am on Nov. 8, 2008
good point
osmoticdespair Posted at 11:40 am on Nov. 8, 2008
Generally I find they cite Paul.
californication Posted at 11:40 am on Nov. 8, 2008
Fair is foul, and foul is fair.
S K A Posted at 11:40 am on Nov. 8, 2008
What's wrong with eating pigs or shellfish...?
2kewl4u2know Posted at 11:40 am on Nov. 8, 2008
Homosexuality is also referred to as a sin in the New Testament as well.
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