Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic logic vs emotion Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]WINDOW WASHER[/m] at 6:57 pm on Jan. 7, 2009[quote]instinct =/= logic[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post WINDOW WASHER Posted at 6:36 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 two men are sitting at a bar. Man one makes a very rude, insulting comment to the other man, a heated argument escalates, and man two punches man one square in the jaw. Was man two's choice to punch man one a decision based on logic or emotion?

Replies WINDOW WASHER Posted at 6:57 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 instinct =/= logic Dass Posted at 6:56 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from TBMP at 6:41 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from Dass at 6:38 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from The Good Guy at 6:36 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 both if he was so logical he'd win the argument with logic not necessarily logic is subjective from an outside perspective, logic dictates to try to win the argument verbally but from an internal perspective, evolution has driven logic to fight or flight: if something threatens you, you either kick the shit out of it to the best of your ability, or you gtfo. not so illogical, when you think about it. just socially illogical. logic is associated with conciousness and fight/flight is never a concious decision - it's a reflex-driven impulse, and reflexes operate autonomously without concious processing, otherwise it would make for a one slow and useless reflex and thus can never be justified as a logical decision. But either way you cant use the "fight or flight" mechanism to support your argument in this case anyway unless you're talking about guy B's reaction to guy A's attack TBMP Posted at 6:48 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from WINDOW WASHER at 6:44 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from TBMP at 6:41 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from Dass at 6:38 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from The Good Guy at 6:36 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 both if he was so logical he'd win the argument with logic not necessarily    logic is subjective    from an outside perspective, logic dictates to try to win the argument verbally    but from an internal perspective, evolution has driven logic to fight or flight: if something threatens you, you either kick the shit out of it to the best of your ability, or you gtfo.    not so illogical, when you think about it. just socially illogical. evolution doesn't always drive us to do the most logical things now does it? Evolution makes it instinctive for fourteen-year-olds to fuck around with each other, but that's none too logical Again, socially in basic principals, in a more balanced playing field, a non-predatory (ftmp) species, such as we WERE, would be best to reproduce ASAP, or at the exact time of sexual maturity. Greater chance of prolonged species-wide survival that way. that's true of any species, in fact. Googoie Posted at 6:47 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Neither, he's just drunk. lovelyshadows19 Posted at 6:45 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Looks like emotion's the winner. If guy one was taunting guy two, it was just base instinct for emotions to kick in and help defend him from them. If logic was the winner, guy two would know that guy one knew nothing about him and probably would just walk away to prevent anything bad from happening. =P WINDOW WASHER Posted at 6:44 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from TBMP at 6:41 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from Dass at 6:38 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from The Good Guy at 6:36 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 both if he was so logical he'd win the argument with logic not necessarily logic is subjective from an outside perspective, logic dictates to try to win the argument verbally but from an internal perspective, evolution has driven logic to fight or flight: if something threatens you, you either kick the shit out of it to the best of your ability, or you gtfo. not so illogical, when you think about it. just socially illogical. evolution doesn't always drive us to do the most logical things now does it? Evolution makes it instinctive for fourteen-year-olds to fuck around with each other, but that's none too logical WickedWiccan Posted at 6:44 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 If the comment was really insulting it would be logical for a human to get violent. TBMP Posted at 6:41 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from Dass at 6:38 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from The Good Guy at 6:36 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 both if he was so logical he'd win the argument with logic not necessarily logic is subjective from an outside perspective, logic dictates to try to win the argument verbally but from an internal perspective, evolution has driven logic to fight or flight: if something threatens you, you either kick the shit out of it to the best of your ability, or you gtfo. not so illogical, when you think about it. just socially illogical. silverrose42 Posted at 6:40 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Emotion... Spuddlesworth Posted at 6:39 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Emotion takes care of the logic we don't care to think about.  Like the propagation of life. matto Posted at 6:39 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 emotion Just Waiting Here Posted at 6:39 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 It really depends on what kind of logic man two uses.  Some people honestly think that physical force is the way to go.. so it's not something that's completely emotionally related. However, if it's something that was done out of rage, just because he was angry, then I would say it's more emotional.  Of course, both logic and emotion will play some role in it, but depending on the person involved, it could be more heavily swayed to either side. Dass Posted at 6:38 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Quote: from The Good Guy at 6:36 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 both if he was so logical he'd win the argument with logic Joke Posted at 6:37 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 Emotions, not emos. Dass Posted at 6:37 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 emotion of course Most recent 15 of 16 previous replies displayed.