yeah I'm talking about 2 different types of fat people. whatever i'm bored with this. I explained everything.
whatever i'm bored with this. I explained everything.
Ok, that's fine. It's just in your statements, you seem to be going back and forth between them and using them interchangeably.
Quote: from Kaijuu at 2:53 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 2:44 pm on July 9, 2009 The people that you are describing don't sound fat and happy to me. This is quite different from someone who's actually content with how they are. You were part of the topic about cutting, and you were trying to explain how cutting works for some. Relate it to this issue. You assume that these people just 'choose' food, yet you don't realize that these people probably eat while feeling guilty. They regret it each time, they hate themselves for it, and yet they can't stop. Some people eat from stress, some eat from depression... some people eat because they don't think they could ever be acceptable by society's standard. It's the same matter in my opinion. Someone who's struggling with weight does't just choose to eat food and complain. Some people are honestly able to eat whatever they want and stay skinny and yet in life that's more appreciative than an individual who may be overweight but still active and a healthy eater. But if someone looks better, but eats at a fast food at least 1-2 times a week, it's better than someone else. All I'm saying is that you seem to making it sound like these people are soley at fault... when really there's a lot more to it than, "just stop eating, and that will solve your problems". Just because you eat or don't exercise doesn't mean you're 'choosing' to be fat... just like if you choose to cut doesn't mean you actually like it and are happy with it. I've met plenty of people who are fat and happy. I even know a girl who looked perfect and made herself fat on purpose. If you cut you can get rid of scars pretty easily. Stretchmarks, extra loose skin, bad eating habits, a large stomach is harder to get rid of. Not everyone who if fat is fat because they are depressed. Some just enjoy food or don't care about looks or think its too hard to get thin. And because of that they are fat. and because of that they encounter problems and get made fun of. Of course not. But are the one's that don't care about food or like looks not happy with themselves? Some of them might not be... My point being that you switch back and forth... you talk about those that are fat and happy, but then talk about how they are upset that they can't fit into clothes. You seem to make this umbrella statement, but then mention people that don't fit under it.
Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 2:44 pm on July 9, 2009 The people that you are describing don't sound fat and happy to me. This is quite different from someone who's actually content with how they are. You were part of the topic about cutting, and you were trying to explain how cutting works for some. Relate it to this issue. You assume that these people just 'choose' food, yet you don't realize that these people probably eat while feeling guilty. They regret it each time, they hate themselves for it, and yet they can't stop. Some people eat from stress, some eat from depression... some people eat because they don't think they could ever be acceptable by society's standard. It's the same matter in my opinion. Someone who's struggling with weight does't just choose to eat food and complain. Some people are honestly able to eat whatever they want and stay skinny and yet in life that's more appreciative than an individual who may be overweight but still active and a healthy eater. But if someone looks better, but eats at a fast food at least 1-2 times a week, it's better than someone else. All I'm saying is that you seem to making it sound like these people are soley at fault... when really there's a lot more to it than, "just stop eating, and that will solve your problems". Just because you eat or don't exercise doesn't mean you're 'choosing' to be fat... just like if you choose to cut doesn't mean you actually like it and are happy with it. I've met plenty of people who are fat and happy. I even know a girl who looked perfect and made herself fat on purpose. If you cut you can get rid of scars pretty easily. Stretchmarks, extra loose skin, bad eating habits, a large stomach is harder to get rid of. Not everyone who if fat is fat because they are depressed. Some just enjoy food or don't care about looks or think its too hard to get thin. And because of that they are fat. and because of that they encounter problems and get made fun of.
The people that you are describing don't sound fat and happy to me. This is quite different from someone who's actually content with how they are. You were part of the topic about cutting, and you were trying to explain how cutting works for some. Relate it to this issue. You assume that these people just 'choose' food, yet you don't realize that these people probably eat while feeling guilty. They regret it each time, they hate themselves for it, and yet they can't stop. Some people eat from stress, some eat from depression... some people eat because they don't think they could ever be acceptable by society's standard. It's the same matter in my opinion. Someone who's struggling with weight does't just choose to eat food and complain. Some people are honestly able to eat whatever they want and stay skinny and yet in life that's more appreciative than an individual who may be overweight but still active and a healthy eater. But if someone looks better, but eats at a fast food at least 1-2 times a week, it's better than someone else. All I'm saying is that you seem to making it sound like these people are soley at fault... when really there's a lot more to it than, "just stop eating, and that will solve your problems". Just because you eat or don't exercise doesn't mean you're 'choosing' to be fat... just like if you choose to cut doesn't mean you actually like it and are happy with it.
You were part of the topic about cutting, and you were trying to explain how cutting works for some. Relate it to this issue. You assume that these people just 'choose' food, yet you don't realize that these people probably eat while feeling guilty. They regret it each time, they hate themselves for it, and yet they can't stop. Some people eat from stress, some eat from depression... some people eat because they don't think they could ever be acceptable by society's standard.
It's the same matter in my opinion. Someone who's struggling with weight does't just choose to eat food and complain. Some people are honestly able to eat whatever they want and stay skinny and yet in life that's more appreciative than an individual who may be overweight but still active and a healthy eater. But if someone looks better, but eats at a fast food at least 1-2 times a week, it's better than someone else.
All I'm saying is that you seem to making it sound like these people are soley at fault... when really there's a lot more to it than, "just stop eating, and that will solve your problems". Just because you eat or don't exercise doesn't mean you're 'choosing' to be fat... just like if you choose to cut doesn't mean you actually like it and are happy with it.
Of course not. But are the one's that don't care about food or like looks not happy with themselves? Some of them might not be...
My point being that you switch back and forth... you talk about those that are fat and happy, but then talk about how they are upset that they can't fit into clothes. You seem to make this umbrella statement, but then mention people that don't fit under it.
yeah, because it means I eat really unhealthily and do no exercise. once the middle age spread hits, I'm going to be repulsive.
Not necessarily. It depends on family metabolism. :)
Quote: from blackbandaid at 2:29 pm on July 9, 2009 Just how fat are we talking? =\http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3562/3349957027_3cc905b299.jpg and here http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3465/3349957259_788de2b9e4.jpg?v=0
Just how fat are we talking? =\
Okay, good. I agree then.
It's unfortunate that nature gave you a nice figure?
Quote: from Kaijuu at 2:22 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 2:14 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from Katx at 2:10 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from 0h h3ll n0 at 5:09 pm on July 9, 2009 Thin people can be unfit. No, they can be unhealthy. Fit doesn't mean healthy. I typically take fit to mean more like athletically able... not necessarily good at things, but fit enough to have muscles, etc. I'm more physically fit than some people who are thin... I guess it just depends on how you define fit... because fit has nothing to do with size for me. -- On another note... I don't care. People live the way they want too. Why 'should' anyone have to look a certain way? Why does it matter to me what choice they make on their appearance? So no, I don't share your opinion, especially when you specifically targeted the female gender as well. I dunno, I guess it's like me saying something like, "I wish people wouldn't walk around in high heel shoes, because they seem impractical.". But really... how do their shoes even affect me? I'm not saying they should. Just I think they should. I'm stating my opinion. Asking if anyone agrees with that opinion. I see these people every day. Thats how it affects me. I hate the way it looks. I wish I didn't have to see it but I do. I feel bad for them because If they actually cared about what they ate and exercised a bit they wouldn't have to be in a wheelchair, or have stretchmarks, or they could go buy NICE clothes that fit them WELL. I was merely stating my opinion as well. But you're saying how you want them to be, implying that there's a way that they 'should' be looking. I'm not saying you're saying something bad against them, but I'm merely saying that looking at people isn't something that causes me to think that I would prefer change. "I think people shouldn't wear clothes that cuts above their knees or shirts that are too revealing because I just don't like looking at it". To you, does this statement sound a little strange? It might not, but if it does, that is how your statement sounds to me. It's just for me... just because I don't necessarily like looking at something doesn't mean that I wish that everyone could change to something that ~I~ would prefer. I really would just rather everyone be happy with themselves, and if they are happy wearing whatever clothes they're happy in, then go for it. That's just my opinion on it.
Quote: from Just Waiting Here at 2:14 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from Katx at 2:10 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from 0h h3ll n0 at 5:09 pm on July 9, 2009 Thin people can be unfit. No, they can be unhealthy. Fit doesn't mean healthy. I typically take fit to mean more like athletically able... not necessarily good at things, but fit enough to have muscles, etc. I'm more physically fit than some people who are thin... I guess it just depends on how you define fit... because fit has nothing to do with size for me. -- On another note... I don't care. People live the way they want too. Why 'should' anyone have to look a certain way? Why does it matter to me what choice they make on their appearance? So no, I don't share your opinion, especially when you specifically targeted the female gender as well. I dunno, I guess it's like me saying something like, "I wish people wouldn't walk around in high heel shoes, because they seem impractical.". But really... how do their shoes even affect me? I'm not saying they should. Just I think they should. I'm stating my opinion. Asking if anyone agrees with that opinion. I see these people every day. Thats how it affects me. I hate the way it looks. I wish I didn't have to see it but I do. I feel bad for them because If they actually cared about what they ate and exercised a bit they wouldn't have to be in a wheelchair, or have stretchmarks, or they could go buy NICE clothes that fit them WELL.
Quote: from Katx at 2:10 pm on July 9, 2009 Quote: from 0h h3ll n0 at 5:09 pm on July 9, 2009 Thin people can be unfit. No, they can be unhealthy. Fit doesn't mean healthy. I typically take fit to mean more like athletically able... not necessarily good at things, but fit enough to have muscles, etc. I'm more physically fit than some people who are thin... I guess it just depends on how you define fit... because fit has nothing to do with size for me. -- On another note... I don't care. People live the way they want too. Why 'should' anyone have to look a certain way? Why does it matter to me what choice they make on their appearance? So no, I don't share your opinion, especially when you specifically targeted the female gender as well. I dunno, I guess it's like me saying something like, "I wish people wouldn't walk around in high heel shoes, because they seem impractical.". But really... how do their shoes even affect me?
Quote: from 0h h3ll n0 at 5:09 pm on July 9, 2009 Thin people can be unfit. No, they can be unhealthy. Fit doesn't mean healthy.
Thin people can be unfit.
No, they can be unhealthy. Fit doesn't mean healthy.
I typically take fit to mean more like athletically able... not necessarily good at things, but fit enough to have muscles, etc. I'm more physically fit than some people who are thin...
I guess it just depends on how you define fit... because fit has nothing to do with size for me.
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On another note... I don't care. People live the way they want too. Why 'should' anyone have to look a certain way? Why does it matter to me what choice they make on their appearance?
So no, I don't share your opinion, especially when you specifically targeted the female gender as well. I dunno, I guess it's like me saying something like, "I wish people wouldn't walk around in high heel shoes, because they seem impractical.". But really... how do their shoes even affect me?
I was merely stating my opinion as well. But you're saying how you want them to be, implying that there's a way that they 'should' be looking. I'm not saying you're saying something bad against them, but I'm merely saying that looking at people isn't something that causes me to think that I would prefer change.
"I think people shouldn't wear clothes that cuts above their knees or shirts that are too revealing because I just don't like looking at it". To you, does this statement sound a little strange? It might not, but if it does, that is how your statement sounds to me. It's just for me... just because I don't necessarily like looking at something doesn't mean that I wish that everyone could change to something that ~I~ would prefer. I really would just rather everyone be happy with themselves, and if they are happy wearing whatever clothes they're happy in, then go for it. That's just my opinion on it.
Quote: from Kaijuu at 10:12 pm on July 9, 2009 You have a nice figure which is absolutely nature's doing, unfortunately.
You have a nice figure
which is absolutely nature's doing, unfortunately.
Quote: from zAmrAmbO at 2:15 pm on July 9, 2009 I think you shouldn't try to tell people how to live. I'm not telling people to be thin they can be fat if they want. Damn, be bedridden I just wish they would be in shape or fit Just not fat lards. If they can help it. I'm saying what I wish would happen but it never will people are "Fat and happy"
I think you shouldn't try to tell people how to live.
I would have to say that many people are not 'fat and happy'. Because there is this societal opinion that people should be fit and thin and attractive... and when you don't fit that standard, you feel like you're being watched, or that people are judging you.
For this reason, I would wish that everyone could be fit/healthy... because so many of those people suffer emotionally from it. If they're happy, then that's great! But if they aren't, then that's the only reason I would wish them to be otherwise.
It's not just a mere matter of losing weigth either... it can start because of illness, because of upbringing... or just like some people turn to drinking/cutting/smoking, etc... others turn to food when they are stressed.
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