Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic i genuinely dislike people who whine about animal abuse and rights Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]sunseeds[/m] at 1:50 pm on May 15, 2012[quote]Quote: from [m]meatmitten[/m] at 1:45 pm on May 15, 2012[quote]animal rights i could understand, there's a lot of blithering idiots in that camp animal welfare and speaking out against abuse is important[/quote]in my experience, people who have spoken against abuse are also blithering idiots  [/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post sunseeds Posted at 1:43 pm on May 15, 2012 lets explore why i feel this way

Replies FTF Posted at 3:18 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from The New World Order at 2:25 pm on May 15, 2012 I genuinely dislike Animals unless they are on my plate. Why am I not surprised you sick mother fucker? Aray Posted at 3:07 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from sunseeds at 3:00 pm on May 15, 2012 obviously humans need animals, but we dont need all animals Actually we do, An eco system is a delicate thing, one animal disappearing from it, even if it seems its insignificant, can have a massive affect. But I think I've shared my opinion enough, I'm tired of this debate, I'd say just watch documentaries and maybe Inconvenient truth. Actually here's a good point, People may seem ants are pointless, but without them then a lot of dead animals wouldn't be eating. Or Crocroaches, they are eating by birds and other animals and without them populations would fall elsewhere in the animal kingdom, Everything has a chain reaction, if you swat one beer, a thousand flowers wouldn't be pollunated and wouldn't come back next year... now what if you killed all the bees? The Bee Movie made a comical point of this but it stands. Everything has a purpose in this world. But again, my belief, I'm done with this discussion and you can see animals any way you want, you do have free will after all and so do I sunseeds Posted at 3:00 pm on May 15, 2012 obviously humans need animals, but we dont need all animals Aray Posted at 2:52 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from sunseeds at 2:49 pm on May 15, 2012 no human is equal to any one animal That's your belief, and it's okay to believe that if you want. I guess I just believe differently. We need animals to run our world and keep it alive. If it was only humans... we'd be nothing, we'd die out. So even though animals may not be exactly equal to us, they do have the same importance in my opinion sunseeds Posted at 2:51 pm on May 15, 2012 i meant to say, no animal is equal to any one human but those two statements are essentially the same... i think sunseeds Posted at 2:49 pm on May 15, 2012 no human is equal to any one animal Aray Posted at 2:48 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from sunseeds at 2:41 pm on May 15, 2012 i dont understand why sticking up for animals is not possible for you people without trash talking the entire human race Hey, I think humans are great, I am one. But I could not hurt an animal because in my family I was brought up to see them as equals. If I was brought up in the wild I'm sure I wouldn't give a damn for animals and would kill one without another thought. It's just the way I'm conditioned sunseeds Posted at 2:48 pm on May 15, 2012 as long as human slavery is still alive and well....who cares? Aray Posted at 2:42 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from sunseeds at 2:30 pm on May 15, 2012 my position is that we should concentrate our efforts on human rights before we start worrying about animals I'm for that too. And sometimes I see people treat humans worse than how they'd treat animals. It's through human rights that animal rights begin to grow. But if you think there's so much animal rights going on then you really aren't looking at half of the world as animal are being starved to death in some countries for their fur, sharks getting their fins chopped up just for soup and being thrown back into the ocean just to die sunseeds Posted at 2:41 pm on May 15, 2012 i dont understand why sticking up for animals is not possible for you people without trash talking the entire human race Aray Posted at 2:38 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from johvan1 at 2:33 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from Aray at 2:23 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from johvan1 at 2:10 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from Aray at 1:50 pm on May 15, 2012 ...humans are no better than animals but we have this superiority complex which is detrimental.         you're a fucking retard    I'm entitled to my opinion, at least I don't degrate people to make a point > "people have a detrimental superiority complex" > "I don't degrade people to make a point"   I wasn't degrating people when I said that. That's just something we as humans are born with, and some people do have superioty complexes. I've met people that run over cats on the road, just because one cat when they were a child scratched them. And that guy called me a retard for having an opinion, I never insulted anyone specifically and when I said the superioty complex, that was an opinion... I was only sticking up for animals johvan1 Posted at 2:33 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from Aray at 2:23 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from johvan1 at 2:10 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from Aray at 1:50 pm on May 15, 2012 ...humans are no better than animals but we have this superiority complex which is detrimental.      you're a fucking retard I'm entitled to my opinion, at least I don't degrate people to make a point > "people have a detrimental superiority complex" > "I don't degrade people to make a point" sunseeds Posted at 2:30 pm on May 15, 2012 my position is that we should concentrate our efforts on human rights before we start worrying about animals Aray Posted at 2:29 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from sunseeds at 2:26 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from Aray at 2:23 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from sunseeds at 2:10 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from Aray at 2:06 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from sunseeds at 1:57 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from Aray at 1:50 pm on May 15, 2012 I'm for animal rights. We are animals ourselves, humans are no better than animals but we have this superiority complex which is detrimental. i just dont understand this line of thinking. 'we are animals' 'we are the same'    no we're not the same    why must i equate myself to another animal? if i were an animal i wouldn't treat animals with dignity and i would subject them to abuse    im a better animal than they are so i treat them humanely, whats wrong with being better than the other animals       Because you aren't better than animals. Even though animals do follow instinct more than us that doesn't mean they don't think.       I've seen documentaries of animals doing things that are just unbelievably human and I've seen humans acting more animalistic at certain times too.       You should watch documentaries on animals, a mother's love is just as powerful in nearly all animals, apes can make tools for God sake.       And animals feel pain, jealousy and love just as much as people.       They do follow instincts but domesticated animals are so extremely human like, they learn like us, they feel like us.       They will never be exactly like us but maybe that just makes them better than us, at least they don't understand wrong and right the same as us, because when an animal commits wrong you can forgive it, but when a person commits wrong, you know they did it on purpose.       These are just my thoughts though, I hate some animals but I don't think I'm better than them, I'm just a different type of animal   if it weren't for people like you i would never experience the urge to kick some puppies    Why are you so sadistic? as far as i know, urges are not sadistic unless you act on them Can you explain to me your position on animal rights? sunseeds Posted at 2:26 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from Aray at 2:23 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from sunseeds at 2:10 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from Aray at 2:06 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from sunseeds at 1:57 pm on May 15, 2012 Quote: from Aray at 1:50 pm on May 15, 2012 I'm for animal rights. We are animals ourselves, humans are no better than animals but we have this superiority complex which is detrimental. i just dont understand this line of thinking. 'we are animals' 'we are the same'       no we're not the same       why must i equate myself to another animal? if i were an animal i wouldn't treat animals with dignity and i would subject them to abuse       im a better animal than they are so i treat them humanely, whats wrong with being better than the other animals   Because you aren't better than animals. Even though animals do follow instinct more than us that doesn't mean they don't think.   I've seen documentaries of animals doing things that are just unbelievably human and I've seen humans acting more animalistic at certain times too.   You should watch documentaries on animals, a mother's love is just as powerful in nearly all animals, apes can make tools for God sake.   And animals feel pain, jealousy and love just as much as people.   They do follow instincts but domesticated animals are so extremely human like, they learn like us, they feel like us.   They will never be exactly like us but maybe that just makes them better than us, at least they don't understand wrong and right the same as us, because when an animal commits wrong you can forgive it, but when a person commits wrong, you know they did it on purpose.   These are just my thoughts though, I hate some animals but I don't think I'm better than them, I'm just a different type of animal if it weren't for people like you i would never experience the urge to kick some puppies Why are you so sadistic? as far as i know, urges are not sadistic unless you act on them Most recent 15 of 30 previous replies displayed.