Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic I find it extremely doubtful that 6 billion Jews died in the Holocaust Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]MorningStar[/m] at 7:46 pm on June 19, 2012[quote]Quote: from [m]joule[/m] at 7:12 am on June 20, 2012[quote]that would be entire world's population. it's 6 million[/quote] Shush, now, Debbie Downer. And why do we only care about the dead Jews ITT?  There were also Russians, Communists, gypsies, and a few Negroids that were subjected to that form of racial euthanasia.  In total it was 12 million.  The whole war as a whole left 100 million dead, though.[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post iconoclast Posted at 7:38 pm on June 19, 2012 Those numbers just don't add up, somehow.

Replies Forever Angel Posted at 12:29 pm on June 20, 2012 Quote: from kidd rune at 1:56 pm on June 20, 2012 Quote: from Forever Angel at 2:15 pm on June 20, 2012 Quote: from iconoclast at 12:08 pm on June 20, 2012 man kidd rune why did you have to turn this into a topic with any semblance of seriousness Because he doesn't know how to read? Coming from FA, rofl Lol, do you know the difference between 6 Billion and 6 Million? Right, you sure can read. kidd rune Posted at 11:56 am on June 20, 2012 Quote: from Forever Angel at 2:15 pm on June 20, 2012 Quote: from iconoclast at 12:08 pm on June 20, 2012 man kidd rune why did you have to turn this into a topic with any semblance of seriousness Because he doesn't know how to read? Coming from FA, rofl iamironman Posted at 11:31 am on June 20, 2012 Oh LiveWire. Gotta love a place where someone posts a joke and it turns into an anti-semitic battle. Kudd rune, before you get butt hurt and reply to this post defending that you are not racist, keep in mind I won't be checking back to see if you did. Save yourself some time. Forever Angel Posted at 11:15 am on June 20, 2012 Quote: from iconoclast at 12:08 pm on June 20, 2012 man kidd rune why did you have to turn this into a topic with any semblance of seriousness Because he doesn't know how to read? kidd rune Posted at 10:30 am on June 20, 2012 Quote: from iconoclast at 1:08 pm on June 20, 2012 man kidd rune why did you have to turn this into a topic with any semblance of seriousness iconoclast Posted at 10:08 am on June 20, 2012 man kidd rune why did you have to turn this into a topic with any semblance of seriousness kidd rune Posted at 11:06 pm on June 19, 2012 As for those killed by the Germans, these six million Jews, let us for a bit assume that the Holocaust was overhyped and that enemies of the state were not deported en mass. If they were not killed by the Germans, then what happened to these Missing Jews? What caused their numbers in Europe to drop? 1. They were deported en masse, the camps did exist, just not for extermination purposes. 2. There are no "Missing Jews" - there was no massive drop in the Jewish population. See: http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-eoinsbt-support-a.html http://img.golivewire.com/ib/297111_f.jpg Public record would show that the Jewish population of Europe did become smaller during the war. If they were not killed in concentration camps, then what happened to these six million Jews who disappeared during the war? I suppose one could hypothesize that these Jews perhaps never existed, but there is just so much evidence and testimony and documents about the T4 Euthanasia Program and all the related stuff left over after Berlin fell. For a Jew to "Disappear" all he has to do is not report that he's a Jew. That simple. Since anti-Semitism was on a rise and many Jews moved around after WWII, it makes sense that the number of self-reported Jews dropped. Also the T4 Euthanasia program had nothing to do with Jews or genocide. Plus, there are so many signs pointing towards "something weird DID happen." How could thousands of people who don't know each other and have never met be telling the same huge lie? They're not. Many survivors claim there was no holocaust, and the gross inconsitencies in survivor stories suggest that there was no agreement on what allegedly happened. What about the German documents scattered around Berlin, abandoned by fleeing Germans? Th International Jew couldn't have doctored those. What documents? ALl the documents on the "Final Solution" state it was a mass deportation, not genocide. And the malnutritioned prisoners that remained in the camps once the Germans took off? Disease and starvation was common at the end of the war, Germany had no supplies due to allied blockades, the Germans didn't do it on purpose, they couldn't stop it. The main flaw that I see with your form of Holocaust denial is the fact that there are thousands of people involved in the whole operation from both sides telling of similar tales. But according to "Israel's official memorial to the Jewish victims of the Holocaust" the majority of eyewitnesses are unreliable. Also there isn't "Thousands" as you claim agreeing, they all have different stories sometimes with consistencies. Most are unreliable, have never been cross examined, and are inconsistent with the physical and documentary evidence. So, what I get from it is, that the Jews, other victims, and the Germans all were in on a conspiracy to I dunno, create an Israeli State; anyway, they all collaborated to turn the Holocaust into an overblown media sensation. It's called propaganda, it happens all the time. http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-eoitaat-support-a.html There are "Witnesses" to gassings in Dachau and Mauthausen and Buchenwald but no mainstream historian believes those happened. All the evidence abut the T4 Program, testimonies of German generals during and after the war, and of the other German officials during the Trials is what you're up against. Eugenics and genocide are 2 different concepts. Also what "German generals" do you speak of? The ones tortured (Like Rudolf Hoess) for their "Confessions"? Or the ones hanged for committing the Katyn atrocity that was later accepted as a Soviet Massacre, not Nazi massacre? So I guess the real flaw is..."WHY?" "How" is also legitimate. Why: http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-eoitaat-support-a.html How? Ask old Adolf: "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it" You seem to be convinced there's shit tons of evidence when there isn't. On a sidenote, am I the only one who believes that if it weren't for World War II, there very well may not be a state of Israel now. Hitler must be kicking himself in the ass up in heaven, realizing this. I think Hitler would have been happy for Jews leaving Europe, not really caring where they go, just somewhere else. MorningStar Posted at 10:42 pm on June 19, 2012 Quote: from kidd rune at 9:33 am on June 20, 2012 You can't just change your mind half way through, because there's no evidence for any gassing whatsoever, not one single Jew was gassed by the Nazis. There's so many holes in the story it looks like swiss cheese. . Also "Dead" and "murdered" are two different concepts, and when there's no proof that anywhere close to 6 million died, the number truly "dead" is not outrageous or excessive compared to the deaths of other groups during WWII. I'm not sure about the first part but I definitely agree with you on the focus on the 6 million Jews and 6 million other enemies of the state being unfair to the other 88 million people (mostly civilians) that died in World War II. As for those killed by the Germans, these six million Jews, let us for a bit assume that the Holocaust was overhyped and that enemies of the state were not deported en mass.  If they were not killed by the Germans, then what happened to these Missing Jews?  What caused their numbers in Europe to drop? Public record would show that the Jewish population of Europe did become smaller during the war.  If they were not killed in concentration camps, then what happened to these six million Jews who disappeared during the war?  I suppose one could hypothesize that these Jews perhaps never existed, but there is just so much evidence and testimony and documents about the T4 Euthanasia Program and all the related stuff left over after Berlin fell. Plus, there are so many signs pointing towards "something weird DID happen."  How could thousands of people who don't know each other and have never met be telling the same huge lie?  What about the German documents scattered around Berlin, abandoned by fleeing Germans?  Th International Jew couldn't have doctored those.  And the malnutritioned prisoners that remained in the camps once the Germans took off? The main flaw that I see with your form of Holocaust denial is the fact that there are thousands of people involved in the whole operation from both sides telling of similar tales.  All the evidence abut the T4 Program, testimonies of German generals during and after the war, and of the other German officials during the Trials is what you're up against.  So, what I get from it is, that the Jews, other victims, and the Germans all were in on a conspiracy to I dunno, create an Israeli State; anyway, they all collaborated to turn the Holocaust into an overblown media sensation. So I guess the real flaw is..."WHY?"  "How" is also legitimate. On a sidenote, am I the only one who believes that if it weren't for World War II, there very well may not be a state of Israel now.  Hitler must be kicking himself in the ass up in heaven, realizing this. kidd rune Posted at 10:03 pm on June 19, 2012 Quote: from MorningStar at 11:37 pm on June 19, 2012 Quote: from kidd rune at 7:53 am on June 20, 2012 Quote: from MorningStar at 11:14 pm on June 19, 2012 Most people here would think they're clever and say "Anne Frank," but they'd be wrong as we know.  Instead I'll just go back in time and ask one of the Jews in line to take a shower his name, and report back to you. Or maybe you could go back and time and see why there is no iron-cyanide residue on the gas chamber walls because they never gassed people with Zyclon-B at Auschwitz.     If I returned with the news that it actually a different kind of gas that killed them, would it really make a difference? Dead is dead one way or the other. No, because there's no proof that they were gassed with Zyclon-B which all the lying "witnesses" and torture-enduced Nazi "confessions" claim was used. You can't just change your mind half way through, because there's no evidence for any gassing whatsoever, not one single Jew was gassed by the Nazis. There's so many holes in the story it looks like swiss cheese. .Also "Dead" and "murdered" are two different concepts, and when there's no proof that anywhere close to 6 million died, the number truly "dead" is not outrageous or excessive compared to the deaths of other groups during WWII. kidd rune Posted at 10:00 pm on June 19, 2012 Quote: from Alternative Twitch at 10:57 pm on June 19, 2012 The accusations about Hitler and his "atrocities" are full of holes. I mean, even economically speaking, how the hell would Nazi Germany have been able to finance it? I mean, has anyone ever really worked out how much the holocaust? It's because there was no extermination, it's that simple: http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-eoiastp-support-a.html Alternative Twitch Posted at 9:25 pm on June 19, 2012 Quote: from MorningStar at 8:14 pm on June 19, 2012 Quote: from Alternative Twitch at 7:27 am on June 20, 2012 I mean, has anyone ever really worked out how much the holocaust? Whoever he was, he was probably Jewish. Nice.. Niiiiiice. Hex Omega Posted at 8:55 pm on June 19, 2012 hahahahaha MorningStar Posted at 8:37 pm on June 19, 2012 Quote: from kidd rune at 7:53 am on June 20, 2012 Quote: from MorningStar at 11:14 pm on June 19, 2012 Most people here would think they're clever and say "Anne Frank," but they'd be wrong as we know. Instead I'll just go back in time and ask one of the Jews in line to take a shower his name, and report back to you. Or maybe you could go back and time and see why there is no iron-cyanide residue on the gas chamber walls because they never gassed people with Zyclon-B at Auschwitz.   If I returned with the news that it actually a different kind of gas that killed them, would it really make a difference?  Dead is dead one way or the other. iconoclast Posted at 8:24 pm on June 19, 2012 Quote: from kidd rune at 11:23 pm on June 19, 2012 Quote: from MorningStar at 11:14 pm on June 19, 2012 Most people here would think they're clever and say "Anne Frank," but they'd be wrong as we know. Instead I'll just go back in time and ask one of the Jews in line to take a shower his name, and report back to you. Or maybe you could go back and time and see why there is no iron-cyanide residue on the gas chamber walls because they never gassed people with Zyclon-B at Auschwitz.   How about Zyklon instead? kidd rune Posted at 8:23 pm on June 19, 2012 Quote: from MorningStar at 11:14 pm on June 19, 2012 Most people here would think they're clever and say "Anne Frank," but they'd be wrong as we know.  Instead I'll just go back in time and ask one of the Jews in line to take a shower his name, and report back to you. Or maybe you could go back and time and see why there is no iron-cyanide residue on the gas chamber walls because they never gassed people with Zyclon-B at Auschwitz. Most recent 15 of 37 previous replies displayed.