Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Having children an achievement? Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]islandgirl[/m] at 11:07 am on Nov. 29, 2008[quote]I don't think that having a baby is necessarily an achievement- although the birth/pregnancy is definitely worth respect, I don't think that having a baby makes you successful If you manage to raise the kid well to become a good person and a productive member of society,  I would consider you a successful parent. If you have a baby and have nothing to support it, have no ability to give it opportunities in life, and manage to ruin your life at the same time- not so successful and not much of an achievement [/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post mountainview Posted at 9:43 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Do you also have the feeling people see having children as an achievement? I mean, sometime I feel people value parents more than other people in society and having children is the reason these people "get away with more things"? I mean.. It's not something special. Everyone can do it.

Replies Bacon Posted at 3:37 am on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from mountainview at 4:56 am on Nov. 30, 2008 Parents are negatively influencing society. Overpopulation anyone?   I just don't get why we love these people so much? Neither do I. However, I do believe it takes a lot of work to raise children. But I agree... Overpopulation is so rampant today because people either: don't know when to stop or believe its some kind of "achievement" to have children. In reality, it is an "achievement" to have children, but only in terms of survival of species.. An evolutionary achievement, if you will. But I believe that's beginning to have lesser value in humanity - especially from overpopulation. JennyColada Posted at 1:10 am on Dec. 2, 2008 I feel like I can kind of see where you're coming from. A few of my friends have kids, and it seems like people always want to be so nice to them, buy them things, take them out, etc. Suddenly everyone wants to be their friend and give them hugs. When someone finds out that so-and-so has a kid, suddenly I'm not so interesting, and all people want to talk about is children (or perhaps it's just that all PARENTS want to talk about is their children?). At the same time though, I do think that raising a child successfully is the hardest job out there, definitely not something I am ready for. I think that, in a way, parents are really unrecognized for their hard work (after all, most children treat their parents like crap once they're over the age of 10). Chava Posted at 1:17 pm on Dec. 1, 2008 Having a succesful child is an achievement and having a skilled trade isn't as big of an achievement because you're not taking care of a human life day in and day out. You go for 8-10 hours and get a break. Parents work all day and night. We never get a break. Work 24/7 and we'll give you more credit. MissPrixy07 Posted at 2:21 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 I believe that having children is an achievement. A lot of people get pregnant, and don't even have their kids, so when someone actually follows through and does what they're supposed to do, it's pretty damn amazing. By the way, my daddy is a landscaper, and a parent. I don't see anyone putting me before him.... islandgirl Posted at 11:07 am on Nov. 29, 2008 I don't think that having a baby is necessarily an achievement- although the birth/pregnancy is definitely worth respect, I don't think that having a baby makes you successful If you manage to raise the kid well to become a good person and a productive member of society,  I would consider you a successful parent. If you have a baby and have nothing to support it, have no ability to give it opportunities in life, and manage to ruin your life at the same time- not so successful and not much of an achievement Smartie Lou Posted at 10:16 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Not everyone can 'do it'. for many it is and achievement and i think it is a miracle every time someone is born osmoticdespair Posted at 10:01 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from mountainview at 6:00 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 So? Be thankful to your own parents, not the whole of society? My parents aren't the only people to give others the gift of life. mountainview Posted at 10:00 am on Nov. 29, 2008 So? Be thankful to your own parents, not the whole of society? osmoticdespair Posted at 9:59 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from mountainview at 5:56 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 Parents are negatively influencing society. Overpopulation anyone?   I just don't get why we love these people so much? Maybe because we like the fact that we are alive and are happy that other people get to receive that gift too? katrinadoodle Posted at 9:57 am on Nov. 29, 2008 I don't see anyone treating parents any better than anyone else. Especially not teen parents. mountainview Posted at 9:56 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Parents are negatively influencing society. Overpopulation anyone? I just don't get why we love these people so much? osmoticdespair Posted at 9:55 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from mountainview at 5:50 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 Then why do we value our volunteers less than parents? Because that's still the case... Because volunteers tend to be doing menial work and people are elitist about stuff like that. Generational memories of when only servants did that sort of thing... mountainview Posted at 9:50 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Then why do we value our volunteers less than parents? Because that's still the case... osmoticdespair Posted at 9:49 am on Nov. 29, 2008 Quote: from mountainview at 5:46 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 Being a stockbroker is difficult too. Being a landscaper is hard work too, yet why do we put parents on pedestals but not our landscapers and stockbrokers? I am pretty sure that we respect professionals as much as we do parents. But one difference is that having a child and taking care of it is work done for the child's sake. Whereas professional work is done for the sake of earning a wage and thus is ultimately selfish at heart. punkypanda Posted at 9:47 am on Nov. 29, 2008 lolz society is an ugly place Most recent 15 of 23 previous replies displayed.