I mean, if they want to keep the kid, kudos. But if they make that decision, they should realize all of the responsibility that comes with it. Go out into the real world, get a job, and rent an apartment. Having a baby is a very grown-up thing to do, it's not quite the same as playing house in your mom's basement. I know a girl who's seventeen and has two babies, each with a different father, and she still lives at home and totally mooches off her parents. What a loser.
And if you're not ready for that kind of responsibility yet, luckily, you've got two options: abortion or adoption.
/end rant
Orthopedic shoes are sensible, but are very tacky fashionably. Is there anything wrong with being tacky? Not necessarily, especially depending on the reasons (orthopedic shoes are probably quite good if you're a nurse and on your feet all day, and if you're struggling to pay basic bills then living at home to save on rent is probably a very good choice). But if one can't even afford to live out of their parent's house, can they really afford to raise a human being? I wouldn't want to put myself in that position, as I just don't feel comfortable with how "right" that situation would be for me.
I feel living with one's parents is tacky.
In the current economic climate, living at home and saving money is sensible, not tacky.
Quote: from JennyColada at 5:18 am on July 4, 2009 I haven't read the whole thread but: If I can't afford to live semi-comfortably as a single person (and that includes living out of my parent's house...because I WANT to live out of my parent's house) then I can't afford to have a family or a child. Some people have different desires, whims, and requirements. I do feel that it's a bit tacky to be living with mom and dad if you are so-called "independent" (and if you're not independent then why are you having a child?), but I don't think that it really says anything about parenting skills (or lack of). How is it tackier to have your landlord be someone you know, as opposed to a stranger?
I haven't read the whole thread but: If I can't afford to live semi-comfortably as a single person (and that includes living out of my parent's house...because I WANT to live out of my parent's house) then I can't afford to have a family or a child. Some people have different desires, whims, and requirements. I do feel that it's a bit tacky to be living with mom and dad if you are so-called "independent" (and if you're not independent then why are you having a child?), but I don't think that it really says anything about parenting skills (or lack of).
If I can't afford to live semi-comfortably as a single person (and that includes living out of my parent's house...because I WANT to live out of my parent's house) then I can't afford to have a family or a child. Some people have different desires, whims, and requirements. I do feel that it's a bit tacky to be living with mom and dad if you are so-called "independent" (and if you're not independent then why are you having a child?), but I don't think that it really says anything about parenting skills (or lack of).
That being said: I am still living under my mom's roof, and I find it to be very tacky for me to still be doing so. Perhaps if we had a guest house it'd be different, but right now I just have a room in her house.
Quote: from taxidayy at 9:28 pm on July 3, 2009 Quote: from XxRedneckBitchxX at 5:16 pm on June 21, 2009 I agree. Though I think living with your parents and not even TRYING to get on your own two feet doesnt do anything. If the parent cant even get a job, then why should they have a child? G-ma can watch the baby for a few hours a day, after a certain age. And you can leave at the age of 16, its called legal emancipation We don't have legal emancipation in Ohio. I'm 16 and pregnant. I checked. Not true it's just very very hard to qualify. I was emancipated at 16 because I was 1. out of high school. 2. in foster care 3. pregnant, and 4. had a proven place to stay/ a job.
Quote: from XxRedneckBitchxX at 5:16 pm on June 21, 2009 I agree. Though I think living with your parents and not even TRYING to get on your own two feet doesnt do anything. If the parent cant even get a job, then why should they have a child? G-ma can watch the baby for a few hours a day, after a certain age. And you can leave at the age of 16, its called legal emancipation We don't have legal emancipation in Ohio. I'm 16 and pregnant. I checked.
I agree. Though I think living with your parents and not even TRYING to get on your own two feet doesnt do anything. If the parent cant even get a job, then why should they have a child? G-ma can watch the baby for a few hours a day, after a certain age. And you can leave at the age of 16, its called legal emancipation
We don't have legal emancipation in Ohio.
I'm 16 and pregnant. I checked.
Not true it's just very very hard to qualify. I was emancipated at 16 because I was 1. out of high school. 2. in foster care 3. pregnant, and 4. had a proven place to stay/ a job.
Well that depends on how old you are. Because a few years ago they stopped emancipation in ohio. Before that, you were able to become emancipated if you were pregnant and/or married.
Quote: from Let Love In at 5:42 am on June 30, 2009 In my opinion, a teenage mother should not take on the task of keeping her infant if she is not able to support it financially. Supporting a child financially =/= paying rent every month. You can still be a great parent without forking out $1000 dollars a month on an apartment.
In my opinion, a teenage mother should not take on the task of keeping her infant if she is not able to support it financially.
Supporting a child financially =/= paying rent every month. You can still be a great parent without forking out $1000 dollars a month on an apartment.
lol
Okay, sorry. I'm seriously done now.
It is horribly expensive to rent an apartment.
Quote: from Let Love In at 1:06 pm on June 25, 2009 But what I don't understand is that if a teen mother can be that self-sufficient, then why can't she just move out? And if the reason she can't move out is because an apartment is too expensive, then she's not really very self-sufficient, is she? It's called the economy and cost-of-living. Can you afford $1500-2500 rent for a 1-2 bedroom apartment? Without utilities or other bills included? Personally, not even my son's 40 year old, college-educated father can. My 59 year old, university-educated mother could barely do it, without having anyone else to support. Most of the 100+ classmates that I have on my facebook who did/do not have children, many of whom are on student loans and/or have degrees, can't do it. They room in with 2-4 others at a time to make ends meet and shuffle apartments every 6-12 months. Yet you're demanding that I, with a child support, should somehow miraculously do it all on my own lest I be a poor parent? Not everyone lives somewhere where you can get a decent apartment for $400-$600. Educate yourself before making ignorant statements.
But what I don't understand is that if a teen mother can be that self-sufficient, then why can't she just move out? And if the reason she can't move out is because an apartment is too expensive, then she's not really very self-sufficient, is she?
And if the reason she can't move out is because an apartment is too expensive, then she's not really very self-sufficient, is she?
It's called the economy and cost-of-living.
Can you afford $1500-2500 rent for a 1-2 bedroom apartment? Without utilities or other bills included?
Personally, not even my son's 40 year old, college-educated father can. My 59 year old, university-educated mother could barely do it, without having anyone else to support. Most of the 100+ classmates that I have on my facebook who did/do not have children, many of whom are on student loans and/or have degrees, can't do it. They room in with 2-4 others at a time to make ends meet and shuffle apartments every 6-12 months. Yet you're demanding that I, with a child support, should somehow miraculously do it all on my own lest I be a poor parent?
Not everyone lives somewhere where you can get a decent apartment for $400-$600.
Educate yourself before making ignorant statements.
Hey now, you're making it sound like raising a child on your own can't be done, yet millions of people are doing it every day. I'm not gonna comment on the rest of your post cause I don't wanna get too personal, but I'm just gonna go ahead and tie up my viewpoint.
In my opinion, a teenage mother should not take on the task of keeping her infant if she is not able to support it financially. The economy is in rough shape right now and earning the money to pay for an apartment, food, diapers, daycare, etc would be a huge challenge, but I think that's what you sign up for when you elect to keep your child. A teenager takes on full responsibility for that child, and, consequently, has to deal with the real world and grow up quite fast. I imagine this is just the price you pay for becoming a teen parent. And that's really all I've got to say on the matter.
Are there loopholes? Sure. Differing opinions? That's fine. But the above statement is what I've been saying all along, it's the reason I started this topic, and we're just going to continue going around and around on this. So go ahead, get your last shot in, and then let's call it a day.
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