Quoting Post Archived Topic: It will not be bumped to the top of the forum. Topic Is it better to be vegan? Membername   Not a member? Sign Up Free (takes 20 seconds) Password   Forgotten your password? Post Font: Verdana Arial Black Georgia Comic Sans Impact   Size: Tiny Normal Big Huge   Color: Default Dark Red Red Orange Brown Green Olive Cyan Blue Dark Blue Indigo Black [ Check Spelling ] [ Post Preview ] [ LiveTags ] Quote: from [m]Dyreft[/m] at 2:37 pm on Dec. 3, 2008[quote]Meat and dairy are an essential part of the human body, with out them well you're screwing up your body. Sure you can take supplements but its not exactly the real thing.[/quote] FAQ Keyword Search: Post Options Favorites Manager Notify me of new replies to this topic by email Notify me of new replies to this topic by private message Original Post LoveKay Posted at 9:50 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Hello. I'm writing an argumentative research paper and it needs to be about 12 pages long. I have only three weeks to get the final draft done and turned it. I need opinions on this topic to include in my paper. Is it healthier / better to be vegan / vegetarian, or is meat & dairy eating essential for humans? What do you think? Or do you not have a strong opinion on the subject? REMEMBER THIS IS NOT ON PERSONAL PREFERENCE, BUT AN OPINION ON THE MATTER. Thanks. Please vote, and if you want, argue this as well! Thanks.

Replies LoveKay Posted at 10:45 am on Dec. 5, 2008 Quote: from mingogo4 at 7:33 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from LoveKay at 10:46 am on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from neodymie at 11:15 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from LoveKay at 10:14 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from crazygrrl4u at 11:09 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 vegans are causing global warming.. they eat our plants which we need to filter out the CO2 thats in our air.. if the vegans would eat an animal they would help reduce the amount of pollution in our ecosystem that animal cause with their "gases" .. EAT MEAT SLOW DOWN GLOBAL WARMING!! Eat meat and become fat like the rest of America. Don't eat veggies and become fat like the rest of America. Hm... yeah, I don't think I like either one of those options.       You idiots and your global warming and misconceptions and misinterpretations. Idiots, idiots, idiots.   WTF? Eating meat doesn't make you fat. Eating too much will make you fat. If you turned vegan, you would probably lose alot of weight. I know alot of people who were vegan/vegetarian and were thin and healthy. Without meat, it would be a lot easier to be thin since you're not ingesting all that fat and all that nasty shit they feed the animals.  Meat lovers are usually pretty big anyway... just look at them.   i know it sounds weird, but i do know some really fat vegitarians. so by saying that meat has a direct relationship with how fat you are would be false. I was NOT generalizing because saying ALL vegans are thin would be a false statement just like saying ALL meat eaters are fat. But MAJORITY are this way. Everything you need that's in meat and dairy is also found elsewhere--except for a form of the B vitamin, that is the only thing you can't find elsewhere... which is why we have supplements. So by being vegan you do not have to take two dozen supplements a day... that's false! LoveKay Posted at 10:43 am on Dec. 5, 2008 Quote: from Dyreft at 3:37 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 Meat and dairy are an essential part of the human body, with out them well you're screwing up your body. Sure you can take supplements but its not exactly the real thing. We are the only animals who still drink milk (and eat dairy products!) as grown-ups. No other animal does this. Dairy is not essential for adults, only at the very beginning of the life stage. When infants are fed milk, they grow intensely. Why do you think that is? Dairy is fattening and will make you grow. DUH. Just like they tell you in the milk commercials--milk is essential for growth... no shit, and then you get fat. mingogo4 Posted at 6:33 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from LoveKay at 10:46 am on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from neodymie at 11:15 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from LoveKay at 10:14 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from crazygrrl4u at 11:09 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 vegans are causing global warming.. they eat our plants which we need to filter out the CO2 thats in our air.. if the vegans would eat an animal they would help reduce the amount of pollution in our ecosystem that animal cause with their "gases" .. EAT MEAT SLOW DOWN GLOBAL WARMING!! Eat meat and become fat like the rest of America. Don't eat veggies and become fat like the rest of America. Hm... yeah, I don't think I like either one of those options.   You idiots and your global warming and misconceptions and misinterpretations. Idiots, idiots, idiots.    WTF? Eating meat doesn't make you fat. Eating too much will make you fat. If you turned vegan, you would probably lose alot of weight. I know alot of people who were vegan/vegetarian and were thin and healthy. Without meat, it would be a lot easier to be thin since you're not ingesting all that fat and all that nasty shit they feed the animals.   Meat lovers are usually pretty big anyway... just look at them. i know it sounds weird, but i do know some really fat vegitarians. so by saying that meat has a direct relationship with how fat you are would be false. Dyreft Posted at 2:37 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 Meat and dairy are an essential part of the human body, with out them well you're screwing up your body. Sure you can take supplements but its not exactly the real thing. LoveKay Posted at 10:46 am on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from neodymie at 11:15 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from LoveKay at 10:14 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from crazygrrl4u at 11:09 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 vegans are causing global warming.. they eat our plants which we need to filter out the CO2 thats in our air.. if the vegans would eat an animal they would help reduce the amount of pollution in our ecosystem that animal cause with their "gases" .. EAT MEAT SLOW DOWN GLOBAL WARMING!! Eat meat and become fat like the rest of America. Don't eat veggies and become fat like the rest of America. Hm... yeah, I don't think I like either one of those options.    You idiots and your global warming and misconceptions and misinterpretations. Idiots, idiots, idiots. WTF? Eating meat doesn't make you fat. Eating too much will make you fat. If you turned vegan, you would probably lose alot of weight. I know alot of people who were vegan/vegetarian and were thin and healthy. Without meat, it would be a lot easier to be thin since you're not ingesting all that fat and all that nasty shit they feed the animals. Meat lovers are usually pretty big anyway... just look at them. blackbandaid Posted at 11:28 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 7:26 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from blackbandaid at 11:21 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 How awkward.      ...it's still better for the environment... Not really. The amount of energy needed to make a large number of vegan products, namely soy, tofu, and vitamin supplements, is fairly high. And the majority of power comes from coal factories. So supporting high energy requirement foods is supporting high energy usage, and thus, high pollution production. FP Buuut. What if your not vegan? If I'm just vegetarian. Maybe it's different in the states? I dunno, here it always says it's better for the environment to vegetarian. Because of the cow flatulence and transport etc. I think it's different in NZ. We have very little coal usage. Most factories are quite environmentally friendly. I dun wanna fight or anything. just saying what i thought i knew... FurryPanther Posted at 10:28 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from austin s23 at 11:27 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 IM A VEGAN! You poor soul. Also, way to not answer the question. FP austin s23 Posted at 10:27 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 IM A VEGAN! FurryPanther Posted at 10:26 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from blackbandaid at 11:21 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 How awkward.     ...it's still better for the environment... Not really. The amount of energy needed to make a large number of vegan products, namely soy, tofu, and vitamin supplements, is fairly high. And the majority of power comes from coal factories. So supporting high energy requirement foods is supporting high energy usage, and thus, high pollution production. FP Medicated Smile Posted at 10:25 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 I am vegan, and I do make sure to get all my nutrients (I take a multivitamin with extra B12, omega3s, and calcium).  I eat tofu/seitan/etc every day, fruits every day, salad every day.  Haven't touched junk food, energy drinks, etc in years.  I'd reccomend checking out PETA or Matthew Lush's info on veganism, they have got it down well. blackbandaid Posted at 10:21 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 7:13 pm on Dec. 3, 2008 Quote: from blackbandaid at 11:08 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 I'm vegetarian but not vegan. We actually DON'T need meat. Originally humans didn't eat it. Or atleast not very much. You can get all the nutrients/supplements you need without meat as long as you're aware of it.    PLUS.   being a vegetarian is way way way better for the environment. better than riding a bike to work every day etc. Humans, and early hominids, have been scavengers for over 6 million years, with a decent percentage of their diet being meat. So that's a false statement. FP How awkward.  ...it's still better for the environment... Neodymie Posted at 10:15 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from LoveKay at 10:14 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from crazygrrl4u at 11:09 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 vegans are causing global warming.. they eat our plants which we need to filter out the CO2 thats in our air.. if the vegans would eat an animal they would help reduce the amount of pollution in our ecosystem that animal cause with their "gases" .. EAT MEAT SLOW DOWN GLOBAL WARMING!! Eat meat and become fat like the rest of America. Don't eat veggies and become fat like the rest of America. Hm... yeah, I don't think I like either one of those options. You idiots and your global warming and misconceptions and misinterpretations. Idiots, idiots, idiots. WTF? Eating meat doesn't make you fat. Eating too much will make you fat. LoveKay Posted at 10:14 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from crazygrrl4u at 11:09 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 vegans are causing global warming.. they eat our plants which we need to filter out the CO2 thats in our air.. if the vegans would eat an animal they would help reduce the amount of pollution in our ecosystem that animal cause with their "gases" .. EAT MEAT SLOW DOWN GLOBAL WARMING!! Eat meat and become fat like the rest of America. Don't eat veggies and become fat like the rest of America. Hm... yeah, I don't think I like either one of those options. You idiots and your global warming and misconceptions and misinterpretations. Idiots, idiots, idiots. By the way, if any animal causes pollution, we would be on top of the list. Besides, it's now being said that humans, after all, really might not have anything to do with global warming at all. So shut your face. FurryPanther Posted at 10:13 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from blackbandaid at 11:08 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 I'm vegetarian but not vegan. We actually DON'T need meat. Originally humans didn't eat it. Or atleast not very much. You can get all the nutrients/supplements you need without meat as long as you're aware of it. PLUS. being a vegetarian is way way way better for the environment. better than riding a bike to work every day etc. Humans, and early hominids, have been scavengers for over 6 million years, with a decent percentage of their diet being meat. So that's a false statement. FP Neodymie Posted at 10:10 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 Quote: from blackbandaid at 10:08 pm on Dec. 2, 2008 I'm vegetarian but not vegan. We actually DON'T need meat. Originally humans didn't eat it. Or atleast not very much. Epic fail. You ever wonder why you have an appendix? 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