Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by whoisabs at 1:08 am on June 30, 2008 http://preview.tinyurl.com/3oftd8 hmm... -- Posted by Latin Muscle at 1:09 am on June 30, 2008 He will  sit back and laugh. ok? -- Posted by shadowofchar at 1:09 am on June 30, 2008 how about, none of the above? -- Posted by Trin33 at 1:09 am on June 30, 2008 Well idk we arent Obama, now are we -- Posted by Special Agent Orange at 1:10 am on June 30, 2008 sit back and laugh? -- Posted by smarty at 1:12 am on June 30, 2008 Quote: from latin muscle at 1:09 am on June 30, 2008 He will sit back and laugh. ok? couldn't agree more -- Posted by Assaultrifle at 1:13 am on June 30, 2008 try to find a diplomatic solution like any other pansy we need to go to war with Iran, and now. -- Posted by Jettie12 at 1:15 am on June 30, 2008 Who knows.  He'd probably give some vague answer as to what he'd do. -- Posted by Kitty Kiska at 1:16 am on June 30, 2008 If i was president i would do f**k all...leave them be for once and not shove my ass in there -- Posted by whoisabs at 1:17 am on June 30, 2008 Quote: from Assaultrifle at 1:13 am on June 30, 2008 try to find a diplomatic solution like any other pansy we need to go to war with Iran, and now. with what military? not to mention the power that the iranian military has itself, then if the sco comes to back it up... -- Posted by Assaultrifle at 1:48 am on June 30, 2008 With our military. We should bring back the draft though to get more troops to make sure we have enough. And Israel will back us. Yeah theyre small but theyre pretty advanced in military technology. IDK what the SCO is, but I know that Hezbollah which contains millions of terrorists will back Iran. And yeah no one said it would be an easy war. It would be quite difficult but we need more planes, more bombs, more guns, and a draft. -- Posted by whoisabs at 1:51 am on June 30, 2008 Good luck with that, not to mention paying for all of that... -- Posted by emo sux69 at 4:04 am on June 30, 2008 Israel needs to be left alone, its the equivalent of a spoilt Rich teenager, the Us gives it everything it wants and all the other country's are going psycho because of it. If Israel attacks and Us doesn't get involved i think that would be the best solution to everything,and it will be the fall of that corrupt spoilt state. -- Posted by Lepperking at 5:24 am on June 30, 2008 Hopefully he does nothing. Israel needs to get taught a lesson. -- Posted by The Artful Dodger at 6:52 am on June 30, 2008 Sit back and watch like a good American president. -- Posted by jonny5 at 8:04 am on June 30, 2008 Israel is our ally. Even though they've abused the privilege in the past I think we would help them. It would be the ideal scapegoat for dismantling Iran's nuclear program. -- Posted by Moridin at 8:07 am on June 30, 2008 support Israel -- Posted by Elm at 8:11 am on June 30, 2008 He will do what most Presidents will do: sit back and watch while condemning Israel publicly but thanking them privately for doing what "had to be done" and giving them a few 100 million in fighter jets. -- Posted by Fluffhead at 10:59 am on June 30, 2008 Tell Iran it's change they can believe in. -- Posted by GodsFireAngel at 5:37 pm on July 1, 2008 Israel won't attack Iran until either: A) they know how America is going to respond or B) They think Iran has really gone to far and will attack, and whoever the President of America is will react differently depending on the exact circumstance [think Osirak] -- Posted by nigeltheoutlaw at 7:33 pm on July 1, 2008 Quote: from Assaultrifle at 1:13 am on June 30, 2008 try to find a diplomatic solution like any other pansy we need to go to war with Iran, and now. Diplomacy is for pansies now? The U.S. can't sustain another large scale conflict. Can you give some reasons with LINKS on why Iran needs to be invaded? -- Posted by Assaultrifle at 9:25 pm on July 1, 2008 Please read this entire post.  We must go to war with Iran and destroy their nuclear facilities very soon. Even if you are a hardcore pacifist read all of this and THEN make a decision. Do not be ignorant and oppose this war just because it is a war without even knowing the reasons for it. This is urgent and not a joke. People need to wake up before Iran blows up israel and possbily hits the U.S, killing and maiming millions. I found an article on iranwatch.org that specifies what Iran has built so far and when. It is quoted below. "International interest in Iran was heightened dramatically in the summer of 2002, when the existence of two nuclear sites was revealed by an exiled Iranian resistance group.[1] Within a year, the world realized that Iran had built or was building everything needed to produce enriched uranium, which could fuel nuclear weapons as well as nuclear reactors. The sites included a uranium mine at Saghand, a yellow cake production plant near Ardakan, a pilot uranium enrichment plant at Natanz, and a commercial-scale enrichment facility on the same site. In addition, Iran was continuing work on a 1,000 megawatt nuclear reactor at Bushehr and was building a heavy water production plant at Arak, next to which Iran planned to build a 40 megawatt heavy water reactor. Beginning in March 2003, following revelations that Iran had concealed nuclear work from the IAEA, the Agency has been investigating Iran's nuclear history. " LINK TO ABOVE ARTICLE: http://www.iranwatch.org/wmd/wmd-nuclearessay-footnotes.htm So Iran has already built or is currently building EVERYTHING necessary to construct a nuclear weapon. And they hid TWO nuclear facilities from the IAEA. (A nuclear watch organization) . LINK TO A PIC OF NATANZ, ONE OF IRAN'S NUCLEAR FACILITIES: http://www.iranwatch.org/images/EndUser/Natanz-092002.jpg Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad declares that his country is only making a nuclear power plant. If so, then why has he openly called for the eradication of Israel off the map at a conference? LINK TO ARTICLE ABOUT CONFERENCE: http://english.aljazeera.net/English/archive/archive?ArchiveId=15816 "Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has openly called for Israel to be wiped off the map. Ahmadinejad addressed students at a conference "The establishment of the Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world," the president told a conference in Tehran on Wednesday, entitled The World without Zionism. "The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land," he said. "As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map," said Ahmadinejad, referring to Iran's revolutionary leader Ayat Allah Khomeini. His comments were the first time in years that such a high-ranking Iranian official has called for Israel's eradication, even though such slogans are still regularly used at government rallies. " As you see, he has openly declared that Israel should be wiped off the map. In addition ahmadinejad has declared that he wants the entire world to be controlled by islamic theocracy government. He has also declared that his country is not afraid of the U.S. or the U.N. and that his country will not back down. This info is from a book titled "The Iran Threat." The book was written by an Iranian man who moved to the U.S and is opposed to Ahmadinejad's regime. In addition, Iran could gain the capability to strike the United States if the nation purchases long range missles from Russia. There is evidence of Russia making many arms deals with Iran recently, selling them tanks and rifles and other things. And there is also evidence that Iran takes these weapons and gives some of them to Hezbollah, an anti israeli terrorist organization consisting of millions of militants which Iran helped create and heavily supports. This shows they could easily purchase missles from Russia if they wanted to. The following is a quote from an article about Iran and Russian arms deals. In the article is a quote from the leader of Hezbollah, and in the quote he admits that Iran fully backs Hezbollah and often gives them weapons. (which they acquired from Russia.) "Hezbollah head Hassan Nasrallah has said it is no secret that Iran is aiding Hezbollah by sending money and weapons via Syria. In remarks published in an interview in the weekend issue of the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Rai Al-Aam, Nasrallah also is willing to receive aid not only from Iran but also from Muslim countries that have diplomatic ties with Israel, such as Egypt, and states that are considered moderate, such as Saudi Arabia. LINK TO ABOVE ARTICLE: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/821548.html The following is a quote from an article detailing the sale of Anti Aricraft Missiles by Russia to Iran. They have sold Iran much more than AA missles but there would be too many articles to link. "We've signed a contract for supplying [Iran] with air-defense missile systems for defense purposes," Dmitriyev said" LINK TO ABOVE ARTICLE: http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2006/02/F1477C44-4533-4436-B19D-1948ED806CE2.html So to sum it all up, Iran has ALL the means to create nulcear technology. It has attempted to keep nuclear facilities hidden from the U.N. Iran's aggressive support of a violent anti israeli terrorist organization and their president's need to wipe israel off the map shows they are very, very hostile to israel and very aggressive and would not hesitate to use a nuke on it if they had one. And the fact that Iran has made many arms deals with Russia in the past shows they could easily purchase missles that could be equipped with  nuclear warheads that could strike the U.S and other nations. I say we don't wait until Iran is done with their nuke and see what happens. I say we attack them now. -- Posted by whoisabs at 10:47 pm on July 1, 2008 blah blah blah now we are right back to where i first replied to your ignorant bullshit http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yaatosy-support-a.html#10 -- Posted by Assaultrifle at 11:23 pm on July 1, 2008 Ok, well we can pay for it by loaning money, the same way we are paying for most of the Iraq war. And while Iran's military combined with Hezbollah and other terrorist groups is a formidable force, the United States and Israel can destroy it, especially if the United States brings back the military draft. -- Posted by whoisabs at 11:27 pm on July 1, 2008 Again you are a fucking retard. The dollar has already dropped in value thanks to Bush hitting up the printing press instead of paying for this war, and you are too much of an idiot to figure out who/what the SCO are. -- Posted by jakelong at 12:01 am on July 2, 2008 maybe you ask that because you know what mccain will do Bolton: Israel Will Attack Iran After U.S. Election But Before Inauguration, Arab States Will Be "Delighted" http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/22/bolton-arabs-delighted/ Bolton Backs McCain Because He Is 'Stronger' Than Bush On Iran In remarks yesterday to CPAC, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) attacked Democrats for allegedly not recognizing "the threat posed by an Iran with nuclear ambitions," claiming to know that Iran is pledging to "possess the weapons to advance their malevolent ambitions." Speaking at CPAC today, notorious Iran war hawk John Bolton emphasized his support for McCain, saying McCain proved he is "stronger" than the Bush administration with the senator's statement on Iran. Bolton claims Bush is too "moderate" and has a foreign policy in "freefall" because he has yet to bomb Iran: I think Senator McCain's statement here yesterday on how he would handle the Iranian program is stronger than the current Bush administration policy. And thank goodness, because the Bush administration policy now lies on the ocean floor. I didn'y think the policy the administration was pursuing was robust enough. yeah you read right. Bush is more MODERATE than McCain on iran. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/08/bolton-mccain/ Do you believe that Congress has to authorize a strategic attack, not an attack on -- during hot pursuit, but a strategic attack on weaponry in Iran -- do you need congressional approval as commander and chief? Mr. McCain: We're dealing, of course, with hypotheticals. If the situation is that it requires immediate action to ensure the security of the United States of America, that's what you take your oath to do, when you're inaugurated as president of the United States. If it's a long series of build-ups, where the threat becomes greater and greater, of course you want to go to Congress; of course you want to get approval, if this is an imminent threat to the security of the United States of America. So it obviously depends on the scenario. But I would, at minimum -- I would, at minimum, consult with the leaders of Congress because there may come a time when you need the approval of Congress. And I believe that this is a possibility that is, maybe, closer to reality than we are discussing tonight. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119196048730753698.html?mod=googlenews_wsj McCain is 10 times more likely to back israel in attacking iran than even bush. so much for trying to trash obama. -- Posted by Assaultrifle at 12:22 am on July 2, 2008 Again you are a fucking retard. The dollar has already dropped in value thanks to Bush hitting up the printing press instead of paying for this war, and you are too much of an idiot to figure out who/what the SCO are. What does the US dollar's value have to do with borrowing money? I didn't say we'd be capable of paying it back anytime soon, I just said we'd borrow money. And I'm an idiot because I didn't know what a certain acronym stands for? Brilliant argument. -- Posted by jakelong at 12:24 am on July 2, 2008 SCO could mean Santa Cruz Operation. but yeah if you cant read abs mind then you an idiot because he the biggest retard and if he knows something then everbody should know it right?     -- Posted by Assaultrifle at 12:27 am on July 2, 2008 Just looked up SCO. Yeah i doubt those nations will directly help Iran with troops and such, they will probably just provide money and aid. But even if they do, whatever, we'll still be able to destroy the nuclear facilities of Iran before they can respond effectively. Besides i think WW3 is pretty much inevitable anyway. -- Posted by Bud2400 at 1:41 am on July 2, 2008 Quote: from Assaultrifle at 12:27 am on July 2, 2008 Yeah i doubt those nations will directly help Iran with troops and such Russia would more than likely provide troops for Iran and basically do whatever it can just short of declaration of war with the US.  You can count on that. However, as far as India, China, and Pakistan goes, you'd probably be right. they will probably just provide money and aid. But even if they do, whatever, we'll still be able to destroy the nuclear facilities of Iran before they can respond effectively. Lol, and Iran will be able to use the planes, missiles, and everything else they've bought to destroy US bases in Iraq and Afghanistan and start hurting US presence in the Persian Gulf pretty badly, too. Don't take aid from the SCO to Iran lightly.  It's certainly enough to prolong a war with Iran, make it extremely costly to Americans, and hurt American presence in the Middle East. Besides i think WW3 is pretty much inevitable anyway. I honestly doubt a war with Iran would ever start a WW3.  WW3 would require some greater powers getting into the mix, and the only possibility of one I'd see would be Russia, which wouldn't be enough to turn it into a "world war" (though a big war no doubt).  And even then, I have the good faith in that the Russians know that war with the US is stupid, thus they'll do whatever they can to support it through a proxy like Iran, but not get themselves directly involved. Pages: 1 2  Next