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-- Posted by californication at 3:00 pm on July 3, 2008

I swear half of the stuff I see on here is not true. Well that is a given, but when they talk about disorders, diseases, depression... people take it way too far and say that have schizophrenia, OCD, manic depression. Have you got tested by a doctor, by professionals, who say that you have it? I honestly doubt it. I have schizophrenia, my friend has aspergers, my aunt has OCD. They were tested with it, they don't just show some small minimal signs and then suddenly go around saying they have OCD. Organizing your lip gloss a certain way does not mean you have OCD.
Fucking hell

These are serious things people need to live with, don't take them so casually, so lightly.


-- Posted by Skip at 3:01 pm on July 3, 2008

a lot of people tend to do this, because they like to blame their problems on things like disorders


-- Posted by smarty at 3:01 pm on July 3, 2008

Couldn't have said it better myself


-- Posted by Hontoshimu at 3:02 pm on July 3, 2008

what you just described is commonly referred to as the friendly neighbourhood emo
im depressed, im mentally ill, i cant help what i do
if its not one thing with them its something even more retarded
fucking idiots


-- Posted by xjacquieandx at 3:03 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from Skip at 6:01 pm on July 3, 2008


a lot of people tend to do this, because they like to blame their problems on things like disorders

QFT


-- Posted by broken1 at 3:03 pm on July 3, 2008

haha amen.

self diagnosis is futile. especially since half of these drama queens on here want to have something screwed with them because they feel special.

talk to me when your doctor tell you you have been clinically depressed since you were 7. then i'll listen.

till then, shut the hell up.


-- Posted by Skip at 3:04 pm on July 3, 2008

also californication when you say people take them casually, they really dont.  they just dont know the seriousness of it all.  its not as if they are trying to mock you.  its just because they are very cautious of their mental health and are misinformed when it comes to actual disorders


-- Posted by ii rock at 3:04 pm on July 3, 2008

ive gotten diagnosed with tourettes and OCD, but because i have those its extreamly likley that i have social anxiety disorder. [i havnt been diagnosed but my mum is a nurse and i show all the symptoms ect.]

so im totally real..

unfortunatly.


-- Posted by californication at 3:05 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from Skip at 3:04 pm on July 3, 2008


also californication when you say people take them casually, they really dont.  they just dont know the seriousness of it all.  its not as if they are trying to mock you.  its just because they are very cautious of their mental health and are misinformed when it comes to actual disorders

Yeah, I guess so, it just really bugs me.


-- Posted by pugdoglover5192 at 3:05 pm on July 3, 2008

I guess that it just depends on the person.


-- Posted by sarah is hot at 3:05 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from californication at 10:00 am on July 4, 2008


I swear half of the stuff I see on here is not true. Well that is a given, but when they talk about disorders, diseases, depression... people take it way too far and say that have schizophrenia, OCD, manic depression. Have you got tested by a doctor, by professionals, who say that you have it? I honestly doubt it. I have schizophrenia, my friend has aspergers, my aunt has OCD. They were tested with it, they don't just show some small minimal signs and then suddenly go around saying they have OCD. Organizing your lip gloss a certain way does not mean you have OCD.
Fucking hell

These are serious things people need to live with, don't take them so casually, so lightly.


Um some people might actually be serious when they say they have things like that and do the things they say.


-- Posted by Khadgar at 3:06 pm on July 3, 2008

You're just as bad, y'know.

"I have schizophrenia, my friend has aspergers, my aunt has OCD. They were tested with it"

Why does a doctor have to tell you what you have or do not have? If only a doctor can validate these conditions, then they do not exist in any real form. If you aren't autistic until a doctor says you are...

Let the people be what they want to be. Who cares if they are merely associating with a group because of some real or perceived attitudes or actions that they perform? If jenny has to organize her markers by color, size and thickness, then let her be OCD; it does nothing to you.


-- Posted by californication at 3:07 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from sarah is hot at 3:05 pm on July 3, 2008


Quote: from californication at 10:00 am on July 4, 2008

I swear half of the stuff I see on here is not true. Well that is a given, but when they talk about disorders, diseases, depression... people take it way too far and say that have schizophrenia, OCD, manic depression. Have you got tested by a doctor, by professionals, who say that you have it? I honestly doubt it. I have schizophrenia, my friend has aspergers, my aunt has OCD. They were tested with it, they don't just show some small minimal signs and then suddenly go around saying they have OCD. Organizing your lip gloss a certain way does not mean you have OCD.  
 Fucking hell  

 These are serious things people need to live with, don't take them so casually, so lightly.


Um some people might actually be serious when they say they have things like that and do the things they say.



Oh I'm sure they are. I know a bunch of people on here who I am sure they have these things. I'm just saying a lot of it doesn't sound very... real.


-- Posted by iloveflute at 3:08 pm on July 3, 2008

wow


-- Posted by californication at 3:09 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from Khadgar at 3:06 pm on July 3, 2008


You're just as bad, y'know.  

"I have schizophrenia, my friend has aspergers, my aunt has OCD. They were tested with it"  

Why does a doctor have to tell you what you have or do not have? If only a doctor can validate these conditions, then they do not exist in any real form. If you aren't autistic until a doctor says you are...  

Let the people be what they want to be. Who cares if they are merely associating with a group because of some real or perceived attitudes or actions that they perform? If jenny has to organize her markers by color, size and thickness, then let her be OCD; it does nothing to you.


I have been tested since I was 5 years old. My aunt has been on meds since she was a child. The guy with aspergers, it's a form of down syndrom, easy to test for. All of us have been on plans. I'm not sure about my aunt right now, but I know my friend goes in monthly, and takes tests. Not just from your average doctor, he has had to travel to different provinces for them to do tests on him. It is way more valid then organizing your shoes by your closet or talking to yourself one night, and then diagnosing yourself.


-- Posted by tiocfaidh ar la at 3:11 pm on July 3, 2008

fuck off and get a life and dont read them topics if u dont like it


im sure an emo like u wud think thjat ur probs are way more important then anyone elses anyway so trust u 2 make this topic


-- Posted by californication at 3:13 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from tiocfaidh ar la at 3:11 pm on July 3, 2008


fuck off and get a life and dont read them topics if u dont like it

 
im sure an emo like u wud think thjat ur probs are way more important then anyone elses anyway so trust u 2 make this topic



lol an emo. I'm am not an emo, trust me. I listen to Queen, Tears for Fears, Elton John, Billy Joel...
Second of all I don't like people labeling themselves


-- Posted by Khadgar at 3:14 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from californication at 3:09 pm on July 3, 2008


It is way more valid then organizing your shoes by your closet or talking to yourself one night.

Okay okay okay whatever dude, I wasn't trying to deny that your dopamine levels are abnormally high, merely pointing out that you are using the fact that you were professionally diagnosed to lessen other people.

"I was diagnosed by a doctor, therefore you don't have ADHD."


-- Posted by LudovicoTechnique at 3:15 pm on July 3, 2008

It's getting ridiculous, everything can be blamed on a disorder nowadays. People don't want to take responsibility for their shortcomings, so they blame it on a disorder. That and half the people on this forum say they have a disease just to make themselves sound interesting, because in reality they are straight boring and plain.

NOTE: I'm not saying everyone on this forum is like that, but most are.


-- Posted by Aliboo at 3:16 pm on July 3, 2008

I so see your point. Its too easy to trick people into thinking everything sucks, so someone will pay attention


-- Posted by californication at 3:16 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from Khadgar at 3:06 pm on July 3, 2008


You're just as bad, y'know.

"I have schizophrenia, my friend has aspergers, my aunt has OCD. They were tested with it"

Why does a doctor have to tell you what you have or do not have? If only a doctor can validate these conditions, then they do not exist in any real form. If you aren't autistic until a doctor says you are...

Let the people be what they want to be. Who cares if they are merely associating with a group because of some real or perceived attitudes or actions that they perform? If jenny has to organize her markers by color, size and thickness, then let her be OCD; it does nothing to you.



And yes it does do stuff to me, it just shows how lightly people take this stuff, how easy they can just label themselves, when in actuality they don't know the seriousness of it  


-- Posted by l2me3 at 3:18 pm on July 3, 2008

wow stop arguing with each other its an advice forum


-- Posted by Kankalicious at 3:19 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from californication at 3:09 pm on July 3, 2008


Quote: from Khadgar at 3:06 pm on July 3, 2008

You're just as bad, y'know.

"I have schizophrenia, my friend has aspergers, my aunt has OCD. They were tested with it"

Why does a doctor have to tell you what you have or do not have? If only a doctor can validate these conditions, then they do not exist in any real form. If you aren't autistic until a doctor says you are...

Let the people be what they want to be. Who cares if they are merely associating with a group because of some real or perceived attitudes or actions that they perform? If jenny has to organize her markers by color, size and thickness, then let her be OCD; it does nothing to you.


The guy with aspergers, it's a form of down syndrome, easy to test for.


Aspergers is in the Autism spectrum... it's not even close to down syndrome, which has to do with chromosomes. I was with you for a little until I read some of your arguments. As someone who studies these disorders, I do dislike when people tend to self-diagnose for silly reasons. But as perviously stated, it is always a possibility that they are correct.


-- Posted by Khadgar at 3:20 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from californication at 3:16 pm on July 3, 2008


And yes it does do stuff to me, it just shows how lightly people take this stuff, how easy they can just label themselves, when in actuality they don't know the seriousness of it

If some person somewhere wants to have / thinks he has some disorder, what is the problem? Externalizing the problem is a coping method that helps people deal with other issues.


-- Posted by tiocfaidh ar la at 3:21 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from californication at 3:13 pm on July 3, 2008


Quote: from tiocfaidh ar la at 3:11 pm on July 3, 2008

fuck off and get a life and dont read them topics if u dont like it  

 
 im sure an emo like u wud think thjat ur probs are way more important then anyone elses anyway so trust u 2 make this topic



lol an emo. I'm am not an emo, trust me. I listen to Queen, Tears for Fears, Elton John, Billy Joel...
Second of all I don't like people labeling themselves


oh so ur a fag?


-- Posted by californication at 3:23 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from Khadgar at 3:20 pm on July 3, 2008


Quote: from californication at 3:16 pm on July 3, 2008

And yes it does do stuff to me, it just shows how lightly people take this stuff, how easy they can just label themselves, when in actuality they don't know the seriousness of it  

 If some person somewhere wants to have / thinks he has some disorder, what is the problem? Externalizing the problem is a coping method that helps people deal with other issues.



And not realize what else is out there? They can deal with their issues in a lot of better ways than just diagnosing themselves


-- Posted by californication at 3:23 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from Cutensassy54 at 3:19 pm on July 3, 2008


Quote: from californication at 3:09 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from Khadgar at 3:06 pm on July 3, 2008

You're just as bad, y'know.    

 "I have schizophrenia, my friend has aspergers, my aunt has OCD. They were tested with it"    

 Why does a doctor have to tell you what you have or do not have? If only a doctor can validate these conditions, then they do not exist in any real form. If you aren't autistic until a doctor says you are...    

 Let the people be what they want to be. Who cares if they are merely associating with a group because of some real or perceived attitudes or actions that they perform? If jenny has to organize her markers by color, size and thickness, then let her be OCD; it does nothing to you.


 

 The guy with aspergers, it's a form of down syndrome, easy to test for.


Aspergers is in the Autism spectrum... it's not even close to down syndrome, which has to do with chromosomes. I was with you for a little until I read some of your arguments. As someone who studies these disorders, I do dislike when people tend to self-diagnose for silly reasons. But as perviously stated, it is always a possibility that they are correct.



Sorry I didn't mean to put down syndrome, I meant to put autism, not that is really matters much anymore


-- Posted by californication at 3:24 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from tiocfaidh ar la at 3:21 pm on July 3, 2008


Quote: from californication at 3:13 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from tiocfaidh ar la at 3:11 pm on July 3, 2008

fuck off and get a life and dont read them topics if u dont like it  

     
  im sure an emo like u wud think thjat ur probs are way more important then anyone elses anyway so trust u 2 make this topic


 
 lol an emo. I'm am not an emo, trust me. I listen to Queen, Tears for Fears, Elton John, Billy Joel...  
 Second of all I don't like people labeling themselves


oh so ur a fag?


Um... what?


-- Posted by Khadgar at 3:24 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from californication at 3:23 pm on July 3, 2008


And not realize what else is out there? They can deal with their issues in a lot of better ways than just diagnosing themselves

Like cutting, drug abuse, or lashing out at others.


-- Posted by californication at 3:26 pm on July 3, 2008

Quote: from Khadgar at 3:24 pm on July 3, 2008


Quote: from californication at 3:23 pm on July 3, 2008

And not realize what else is out there? They can deal with their issues in a lot of better ways than just diagnosing themselves
 

 Like cutting, drug abuse, or lashing out at others.



Even if they diagnose themselves, they still aren't taking meds, they are still in the same state of mind, who says that once they diagnose themselves they wont cut or anything? That will probably give more reason for them to do that. If they think they have a disorder, they will just assume they are more fucked up and want to abuse themselves or others. All diagnosing yourself is is a block to the real world. It doesn't deal seriously with anything, and it doesn't help.

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