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-- Posted by Human Nature at 6:39 pm on July 16, 2008

I think it's wrong to fight, either way about it, I'm 100% for love, not war.

I believe though, that it's wrong for girls to fight. It's very unfeminine. Therefore, if a girl has the balls to up and hit a guy, he has every right to hit her back. She's throwing away her "delicate femininity" by throwing a punch. He has every right to defend himself in the case.

Who agrees?


-- Posted by iinsurgent at 6:40 pm on July 16, 2008

I would like to use this post to express a very large FUCK YOU to gender stereotypes, and the people who think everyone should live up to them.

But I would never start a physical fight.


-- Posted by kenmochica09 at 6:41 pm on July 16, 2008

it's a tough subject. i believe that every guy has a right to defend himself. don't throw it if you can't take it.


-- Posted by Meep123 at 6:41 pm on July 16, 2008

I'd deck a girl right in the noggin.
Ive seen way to many badass ninja girls on tv.


-- Posted by Human Nature at 6:43 pm on July 16, 2008

I'm not stereotyping anyone. I hate fighting, and I think it's disgusting to see a girl fighting.


Don't throw it if you can't take it is right. I think guys should be able to be politically correct in hitting a girl if she thinks she is man enough to take it.


-- Posted by savannaaa at 6:43 pm on July 16, 2008

I'm really leaning back and forth between whether it's OK or not.

If a guy hit me, I'd hit back.
But...

It's not right for either to hit one another. That just sounds stupid, "Girls can hit guys, but guys can't hit girls."

If more people settled it the right way(talking or arguing) without being juvenile about it, we wouldn't be debating about this.


-- Posted by iinsurgent at 6:44 pm on July 16, 2008

You said it's unfeminine and wrong for girls to fight. That sounds like a gender stereotype to me.


-- Posted by Meep123 at 6:45 pm on July 16, 2008

Quote: from iinsurgent at 9:44 pm on July 16, 2008


You said it's unfeminine and wrong for girls to fight. That sounds like a gender stereotype to me.

Sounds like a positive stereotype. Kinda like Asians are good at math. So lets just accept it and roll with it. Asians do.  


-- Posted by Human Nature at 6:48 pm on July 16, 2008

Yeah, not every fucking stereotype is negative. I'm not saying "girls can't fight."
I'm saying, it's politically incorrect for girls to fight because girls to me are delicate, beautiful things that don't need to be throwing fists around because it's tainting to their image.


-- Posted by Seidell at 6:50 pm on July 16, 2008

I don't think anyone should fight (girl or guy,) in my opinion it justs shows the person has no class and can't settle an argument the right way. All fighting does is make things worse.


-- Posted by iinsurgent at 6:52 pm on July 16, 2008

It doesn't matter to me if a stereotype is positive or negative, it's still a stereotype and they're silly. I don't like being viewed as a delicate little flower, because I know it's not true.

Political correctness, lol  


-- Posted by Uruz 7 at 8:08 pm on July 16, 2008

I HIT YOU!!!!!!

Thats how I feel about the topic . .  God, you don't know what girls are made off do you? Have some respect, or they'll mash your balls. . .


-- Posted by Assaultrifle at 11:06 pm on July 16, 2008

I think there's nothing wrong with girls fighting, and i dont think it  makes them any less "feminine".

I wouldn't fight anyone unless it was in self defense or the defense of someone else and in those circumstances i would fight anyone regardless of gender.


-- Posted by Evolutionism at 11:47 am on July 17, 2008

You are essentially implying that we should be living by the "eye for an eye" mentality.

We should be discussing the permissibility of of violence, rather than the gender politics of "hitting back," which is, by the way, very offensive to begin with.


-- Posted by runthespread at 5:13 pm on July 19, 2008

I agree to an extent. I'm not sure if it's wrong for a girl to fight but I'd say that men are by nature more prone to fighting and women talking. If a girl chooses to get physically abusive (which does happen a lot), the guy should have a right to self-defense. There are many girls who could beat up guys, and I don't think generalizing male and female works. My friend was literally beaten up by his gf when they broke up but I'm guessing she didn't have any cuts and bruises..why, because she's  girl? What right does she have to unleash physical power on someone knowing that she has a right to and they're unable to defend?


-- Posted by TheOtherHorseman at 5:32 pm on July 19, 2008

Quote: from Human Nature at 9:39 pm on July 16, 2008


I think it's wrong to fight, either way about it, I'm 100% for love, not war.

I believe though, that it's wrong for girls to fight. It's very unfeminine. Therefore, if a girl has the balls to up and hit a guy, he has every right to hit her back. She's throwing away her "delicate femininity" by throwing a punch. He has every right to defend himself in the case.

Who agrees?


It isn't reasonable to say that women shouldn't fight because it isn't feminine.

It is reasonable to say that you should be able to hit back if attacked by a female.


-- Posted by Tiroth at 10:37 pm on July 19, 2008

I would block the punches and try to get make it so she can't hit anyone until she calms down.


-- Posted by Silence of Thought at 12:43 pm on July 22, 2008

I believe that the "guys can't hit girls" rule is unreasonable, since every person should have a right to self-defense. However, anyone who delivers the first blow should be at fault, male or female. Also, anyone who easily overpowers the other and does so just to inflict more pain should be at fault as well. So I agree with you that nobody should fight.
However, girls are human just like guys, and in extreme circumstances are prone to lose their temper and get aggressive, just like anyone else. The guy should have the right to hit back for the reason of defense, but NOT because the girl is throwing away her "delicate femininity."


-- Posted by The Samsoniteman at 2:18 pm on July 22, 2008

The only interesting thing you've said, Nature, is that you don't think girls should fight because it's "unfeminine". THAT is disgusting, I don't give a damn what you think about violence.


-- Posted by Assaultrifle at 6:29 pm on July 22, 2008

Yeah anyone can fight including girls. There's nothing wrong with girls learning how to fight and sparring and stuff. No one should attack someone else unless in self defense though.


-- Posted by nigeltheoutlaw at 7:26 pm on July 22, 2008

It's fine for girls to be physically agressive; it doesn't make them "unfeminine". Or can only guys woop somebody without social reprucussions. What bull.


-- Posted by runthespread at 2:04 am on July 23, 2008

I wish more females gave an opinion on this.

Again, I think it's absurd that guys just can't hit girls. Girls use that to an advantage, sure, kick a handicapped kid.


-- Posted by boothy at 8:25 am on July 23, 2008

No way. If a lad hits me, I'll go for it. If a lass hits me, I will not hit back. It's just not right.


-- Posted by crazy4you at 12:03 pm on July 23, 2008

I really disagree with that. No guy should EVER hit a girl for any reason. The guy deserved it, so what? It's disrespectful to hit a girl.

I also disagree against the "love, not war" thing. People fight for a reason. They have an opinion about something. Fighting is being assertive. If you don't fight back and you let everybody get their way then you are being very passive and you won't get anywhere with that.


-- Posted by Silence of Thought at 7:43 pm on July 23, 2008

Quote: from crazy4you at 3:03 pm on July 23, 2008


I really disagree with that. No guy should EVER hit a girl for any reason. The guy deserved it, so what? It's disrespectful to hit a girl.

It's completely ignorant that you think that the guy would deserve being hit no matter what. I'd hit a girl to defend myself. Hell, I consider my safety more important than being a gentleman. It's disrespectful to hit ANYONE, not just a girl.


-- Posted by crazy4you at 5:54 pm on July 24, 2008

Quote: from Silence of Thought at 7:43 pm on July 23, 2008


Quote: from crazy4you at 3:03 pm on July 23, 2008

I really disagree with that. No guy should EVER hit a girl for any reason. The guy deserved it, so what? It's disrespectful to hit a girl.

It's completely ignorant that you think that the guy would deserve being hit no matter what. I'd hit a girl to defend myself. Hell, I consider my safety more important than being a gentleman. It's disrespectful to hit ANYONE, not just a girl.



I know. I'm saying that IF the guy deserved it... Like if he said something nasty, than that gives her ever right to give him a little slap. He shouldn't slap her back for that though.

Now if it's pull blown punching and stuff, then heck, go for it. If she deserves it she should know it.


-- Posted by Feminawesome at 6:17 pm on July 24, 2008

Quote: from runthespread at 2:04 am on July 23, 2008


I wish more females gave an opinion on this.  

Again, I think it's absurd that guys just can't hit girls. Girls use that to an advantage, sure, kick a handicapped kid.



I wasn't going to respond to this, but since you said you wanted to hear a female perspective...

I don't really see things in a "feminine" or "masculine" light, so I don't see it as unfeminine for a woman to fight. I think a man has every right to hit back. I don't think men should go around punching women, but I don't believe women should go around punching men, either. I don't see sex as having much to do with whether or not violence is acceptable.


-- Posted by runthespread at 5:06 am on July 26, 2008

Quote: from crazy4you at 5:54 pm on July 24, 2008


Quote: from Silence of Thought at 7:43 pm on July 23, 2008

Quote: from crazy4you at 3:03 pm on July 23, 2008

I really disagree with that. No guy should EVER hit a girl for any reason. The guy deserved it, so what? It's disrespectful to hit a girl.
 

 It's completely ignorant that you think that the guy would deserve being hit no matter what. I'd hit a girl to defend myself. Hell, I consider my safety more important than being a gentleman. It's disrespectful to hit ANYONE, not just a girl.



I know. I'm saying that IF the guy deserved it... Like if he said something nasty, than that gives her ever right to give him a little slap. He shouldn't slap her back for that though.

Now if it's pull blown punching and stuff, then heck, go for it. If she deserves it she should know it.


I don't really agree. Deserving is an opinion and physical abuse is hardly justifiable by an opinion. If you're going to qualify men as more capable of fighting than women, that's one thing. But if a less capable entity struck, that shouldn't mean that the more capable one shouldn't retaliate...same with countries, if a small country attacked the US, the US shouldn't hesitate to attack back even if it was a little attack that was "deserved."

And I doubt a girl would admit to deserving hits, even if she threw the first blows. It's more likely that she'd get the guy in trouble for it due to the double standard.


-- Posted by Alabamarama at 10:45 pm on Aug. 2, 2008

I disagree. So what if it's unfeminine? Yes, the man should be able to hit her back, but not because she's lost her femininity. Women should not be obligated to follow the social guidelines implicated by "femininity," just as men aren't always "masculine."


-- Posted by sophos at 10:43 am on Aug. 5, 2008

Gentlemen's rule of thumb: Always respect the weaker sex.


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