-- Posted by The Artful Dodger at 9:34 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 It corresponds to language. Anybody of any race can speak any language. Hell, there are Dominicans out there who look like Akon. And then they're the near white ones descended from Spanish people. Most if not a good chunk of Latin people in the West are mestizo (thats european and native...native being amerindian, aztec, carib, taino or whatever) and alot more than are acknowledged have African ancestry too.   My aunt(by marrying my uncle) is darker than me and she's 100% Cubana, accent and all. So yeah...that's my beef with the terms "hispanic" "latino" and their use in the same context as "black" and "white". Agree? Disagree? -- Posted by Latin Muscle at 9:36 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 All true. Just because i call myself latino people think i am from south america, when my parents are actually from Spain. -- Posted by SgtPatches at 9:36 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 disagree. it doesn't just correspond to language, it responds to a cultural heritage. They all have in common the fact that they are a mix of Indian, Spanish, and sometimes black (for the Dominicans). -- Posted by nsixxrules at 9:36 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 hahahahaha lol dominicans that look like akon lmao. true tho they only speak spanish that's all. they vary from color and beauty. (yes colombian chicks are hott lmao) if there was a race called "cholo" then it might count?? -- Posted by revived5656 at 9:37 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 tru -- Posted by nigeltheoutlaw at 9:37 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 I partially agree with you, and partially with SgtPatches. -- Posted by hithere at 9:38 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 so you're saying race is solely based on nationality? you don't make sense to me at all. -- Posted by lilolme at 9:39 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Disagree thats my nationality im dark but im latino so thats not fair my mom is purto rican and my dad is domician but still i have black and white in me but im 50%latino blood -- Posted by El King at 9:40 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 9:37 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 I partially agree with you, and partially with SgtPatches. Me too. -- Posted by The Artful Dodger at 9:43 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Quote: from lilolme at 9:39 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Disagree thats my nationality im dark but im latino so thats not fair my mom is purto rican and my dad is domician but still i have black and white in me but im 50%latino blood What constitutes latino blood could be lots of different things. Are Hatians are different race because they speak French? 'Hispanic' countries have many shades of grey. Are Americans a different race from the English, because they're's mroe diversity (I don't know taht for a fact. feel free to sub that witha better example) -- Posted by HideOrSeek at 9:45 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Nowadays, the only race is Human. -- Posted by whoareyou at 9:53 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 How else could you categorize a person of a Spanish-speaking nation? Their rooted together by the conquista. I'm not against what you're saying, but I can't think of a better solution. -- Posted by MuffinBABY at 10:45 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 There's no such thing as race. Just differences -- Posted by whoisabs at 10:50 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Quote: from The Artful Dodger at 9:34 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 It corresponds to language. This statement is about as ignorant as the morons who think that hispanic is a race. Hispanic is a culture.  Language is only one part of the culture. -- Posted by The Artful Dodger at 10:57 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 10:50 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Quote: from The Artful Dodger at 9:34 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 It corresponds to language. This statement is about as ignorant as the morons who think that hispanic is a race. Hispanic is a culture. Language is only one part of the culture. I don't think Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and Spaniards share quite the same culture. Yet they still come under hispanic. -- Posted by whoisabs at 10:59 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 I know, it isn't as if the Spanish colonized Mexico or Puerto Rico, thus introducing their culture into those lands. Next you are going to try and claim that the Anglo culture doesn't exist in Canada, Britian, New Zealand, etc. -- Posted by The Artful Dodger at 11:01 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 I didn't say that Hispanic Culture and all that didn't exist.. The word Hispanic belongs with Franco, Anglo and all that. Not black, white etc. That's my point in the first post. In fact, that's why WHOLE argument. -- Posted by whoisabs at 11:03 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 It corresponds to language. I don't think Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and Spaniards share quite the same culture. Wait what? -- Posted by The Artful Dodger at 11:09 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 11:03 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 It corresponds to language. I don't think Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and Spaniards share quite the same culture. Wait what? They don't. They don't even talk with the same accent, or slang. it's like saying Americans and British have the same culture. It's similar, related yes, but not the same. Some things are distinctly British, and others distinctly American. Depending on how you categorize the United Kingdom and America may fall into the same category, just like if your categorizing by language, or countries that were once run by England you'll get certain groups. My beef, is cross-categorization. When people get mixed up. which i strongly believe is the case with the terms hispanic and latino. -- Posted by jakelong at 11:10 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 what you say is true for hispanic: its a group of ppl with the same language. but latino is a group of ppl with different races and background. So its NOT a "race" but it still a heritage and its NOT a language. -- Posted by jakelong at 11:13 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Quote: from The Artful Dodger at 11:09 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 It's similar, related yes, but not the same. Some things are distinctly British, and others distinctly American. Well the reason we feel similar in the US is because here ppl who are english or german heritage are called "anglo". So we are not anglo. -- Posted by whoisabs at 11:26 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Quote: from The Artful Dodger at 11:09 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 11:03 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 It corresponds to language.     I don't think Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and Spaniards share quite the same culture.    Wait what? They don't. They don't even talk with the same accent, or slang. Now we are back to you showing off how much of an idiot that you really are, and proving my previous posts. First of all, look at the USA and how the accents and slang vary between various regions. Also, come back when you learn what the hell culture encompasses. -- Posted by jakelong at 11:38 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Quote: from The Artful Dodger at 11:01 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 I didn't say that Hispanic Culture and all that didn't exist.. The word Hispanic belongs with Franco, Anglo and all that. Not black, white etc. That's my point in the first post. In fact, that's why WHOLE argument. I never heard of "franco" excpet the dictator   But yeah i get you point its not a race. we all agree here. but theres some common culture. and yeah its got variations. The thing is just if we compare different latino culture they got more in common with each other than with anglo culture. And forget about abs. Hes on the rag again. -- Posted by The Artful Dodger at 11:39 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 11:26 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Quote: from The Artful Dodger at 11:09 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 Quote: from whoisabs at 11:03 pm on Aug. 5, 2008 It corresponds to language.     I don't think Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and Spaniards share quite the same culture.     Wait what? They don't. They don't even talk with the same accent, or slang.   Now we are back to you showing off how much of an idiot that you really are, and proving my previous posts.   First of all, look at the USA and how the accents and slang vary between various regions.   Also, come back when you learn what the hell culture encompasses. Ok. Don't get all e-thug on me. I don't have to go anywhere. In fact I got all night. There is American culture. There are also several American subcultures. You know? Cultures WITHIN cultures. So when you're talking about different accents and practices in America you're still talking about different cultures...buddy. Oh shit lol. So yeah, I could say all the english speaking countries of the world share Anglo/English culture. Just like your saying that the Spanish countries have Hispanic culture. That doesn't mean that you can't break it up, or that hispanics are the same wherever you go. Fuck, there's HUMAN CULTURE. You're just typical...caught up in the word trap...not to mention this has nothing to do with the main point of my thread. If you want to make your own little 'culture' thread go ahead. But over here, we (and by we I mean me, the threadstarter) like to keep things on point. -- Posted by justfriends at 10:44 pm on Aug. 6, 2008 hispanic and latino are different. latinos share a certain culture. hispanics share a certain tongue. brazilians are latinos but they aren't hispanics. they don't speak spanish. they speak portuguese. -- Posted by Takinam at 12:42 am on Aug. 7, 2008 One could place Latino as a race, if one saw fit to do so. Humans are migratory creatures anyway. -- Posted by LastZephyr at 10:31 am on Aug. 7, 2008 I don't know that any anthropologist is technically claiming that the group of Hispanic/Latino is a race in itself, but in terms of filling out forms or applications... If I see a bubble marked "Mexican-American" I fill it in before Latino.  My ancestors came from Mexico, not some general continent.  Hispanics (in the definition I'm familiar with, those descended from South America or Spain) make up a large percentage of the population.  Although they are not technically a race of people, they still need to be accounted for and I can't think of a more effective way to do that. -- Posted by babygurl 2008 at 12:37 pm on Aug. 7, 2008 Agree -- Posted by The Artful Dodger at 5:32 pm on Aug. 7, 2008 yeah, i actually checked that out after. latino doesnt mean the same thing. it means latin america (geographical). that considered, by and large my argument doesn't change. -- Posted by Chava at 5:34 pm on Aug. 7, 2008 Hispanic is the race and Spanish is the language. I mean people from England are considered English and they speak English. A race can be the same name as the language.