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-- Posted by GdFtherOFCOWS at 4:13 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

So I am in the middle of a case and it is wreaking my brain.

The T.V. star Nickel Samurai, Matt Engarde, is accused of killing the Jammin' Ninja, Juan Corrida, also a T.V. star.  They weren't on the best of terms, but Matt didn't have any reason to kill the guy! I think that someone tried to frame Matt.

There is entirely too much evidence at the scene of the crime. Honestly, who would leave a knife in someone after stabbing him?  I myself would have taken the knife.  The stabbing wasn't even the cause of death. The cause was strangulation via bandanna.


Work is tough.


-- Posted by JudeLaurence at 4:18 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

It was professor plum, in the bedroom, with a wrench!


-- Posted by GdFtherOFCOWS at 4:18 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

Quote: from DarkLink224 at 6:18 pm on Aug. 14, 2008


It was professor plum, in the bedroom, with a wrench!

You're not helping at all.


-- Posted by Redstar7 at 11:54 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

Quote: from DarkLink224 at 4:18 pm on Aug. 14, 2008


It was professor plum, in the bedroom, with a wrench!
What the heck are you going on about?! It couldn't have been with the wrench.

It was clearly Miss Scarlet in the billiards room with the rope.


-- Posted by the real anti christ at 1:32 am on Aug. 15, 2008

I told you earlier!!! MINJAS!


-- Posted by Prince o palities at 6:07 pm on Aug. 15, 2008

Quote: from Redstar7 at 1:54 am on Aug. 15, 2008


Quote: from DarkLink224 at 4:18 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

It was professor plum, in the bedroom, with a wrench!
What the heck are you going on about?! It couldn't have been with the wrench.  

It was clearly Miss Scarlet in the billiards room with the rope.


Actually, I was with Miss Scarlet in the billiard room.  While there was a rope involved, everyone was quite alive when we were done if you catch my oh-so-subtle drift.


-- Posted by JudeLaurence at 9:23 pm on Aug. 15, 2008

After PoP's and Ms. Scarlet's cabal to hang him failed, Prof. Plum dragged him upstairs to finish him off, I tell you.


-- Posted by Redstar7 at 3:17 pm on Aug. 16, 2008

But there wasn't even a bedroom in that house! Still you're clearly mistaken.


-- Posted by GdFtherOFCOWS at 8:51 pm on Aug. 16, 2008

Wtf you all talking about.  The murder happened at a Hotel during an awards ceremony.


-- Posted by OLPFan200 at 12:44 pm on Aug. 18, 2008

Quote: from GdFtherOFCOWS at 11:51 pm on Aug. 16, 2008


Wtf you all talking about. The murder happened at a Hotel during an awards ceremony.

Have you never played Clue?!


-- Posted by GdFtherOFCOWS at 1:42 pm on Aug. 18, 2008

Quote: from OLPFan200 at 2:44 pm on Aug. 18, 2008


Quote: from GdFtherOFCOWS at 11:51 pm on Aug. 16, 2008

Wtf you all talking about.  The murder happened at a Hotel during an awards ceremony.

Have you never played Clue?!



I have, but they aren't suspects in the case.  I have the Manager as suspect #1.  She was dating the victim and he had something to do with her mentor's suicide.


-- Posted by 4est at 6:53 pm on Aug. 20, 2008

r u csi or s0mthing


-- Posted by GdFtherOFCOWS at 8:41 pm on Aug. 20, 2008

Quote: from 4est at 8:53 pm on Aug. 20, 2008


r u csi or s0mthing

An Attorney.

Developments:  

The lady who I think killed Juan, was dating him because his past manager committed suicide.

His manager was her mentor, and she left a suicide note that was never found.  (Ink was found on her fingertips at the time)  Juan was the person who discovered her, but was the note was never found.  Police suspected him in hiding the note, but couldn't prove anything.


-- Posted by OLPFan200 at 5:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008

The whole knife thing is either a poor attempt at a cover up ("oh there's a knife well I guess we don't need to check for other causes of death"), or an act out of anger/passion. So either you're dealing with an idiot, or a jealous lover or betrayed partner sort of thing.

And I'm a little confused by your developments thing. To many pronouns or something.


-- Posted by the real anti christ at 6:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from OLPFan200 at 7:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008


The whole knife thing is either a poor attempt at a cover up ("oh there's a knife well I guess we don't need to check for other causes of death"), or an act out of anger/passion. So either you're dealing with an idiot, or a jealous lover or betrayed partner sort of thing.

And I'm a little confused by your developments thing. To many pronouns or something.


PRONOUNS ARE AMERICAN!!!! You simply wouldn't understand.


-- Posted by GdFtherOFCOWS at 7:56 am on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from OLPFan200 at 7:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008


The whole knife thing is either a poor attempt at a cover up ("oh there's a knife well I guess we don't need to check for other causes of death"), or an act out of anger/passion. So either you're dealing with an idiot, or a jealous lover or betrayed partner sort of thing.

And I'm a little confused by your developments thing. To many pronouns or something.


OK, I'll type more out for you Canadians.

DEVELOPMENTS:

Adrian Andrews, the manager of Matt Engarde, was involved with Juan Corrida.  Her mentor was Celeste, who was Juan's former manager.  

Celeste committed suicde by hanging herself. Police found ink on her fingertips, but no suicide note.  Juan was the first one on the scene, and police suspected him of hiding the note.  Nothing was found to prove he did, so police couldn't do anything.

NEW DEVELOPMENTS:

The knife has my client's fingerprints on it.


-- Posted by GdFtherOFCOWS at 8:06 am on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from OLPFan200 at 7:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008


And I'm a little confused by your developments thing. To many pronouns or something.

I'm only a high school graduate, I don't know what pronouns are.


-- Posted by OLPFan200 at 8:50 am on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from GdFtherOFCOWS at 11:06 am on Aug. 21, 2008


Quote: from OLPFan200 at 7:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008

And I'm a little confused by your developments thing. To many pronouns or something.

I'm only an American high school graduate, I don't know what pronouns are.


There, that looks better.


-- Posted by OLPFan200 at 8:52 am on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from the real anti christ at 9:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008


Quote: from OLPFan200 at 7:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008

The whole knife thing is either a poor attempt at a cover up ("oh there's a knife well I guess we don't need to check for other causes of death"), or an act out of anger/passion. So either you're dealing with an idiot, or a jealous lover or betrayed partner sort of thing.  

 And I'm a little confused by your developments thing. To many pronouns or something.


PRONOUNS ARE AMERICAN!!!! You simply wouldn't understand.

Does anything you say anymore make sense to anyone?


-- Posted by OLPFan200 at 8:59 am on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from GdFtherOFCOWS at 10:56 am on Aug. 21, 2008


Quote: from OLPFan200 at 7:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008

The whole knife thing is either a poor attempt at a cover up ("oh there's a knife well I guess we don't need to check for other causes of death"), or an act out of anger/passion. So either you're dealing with an idiot, or a jealous lover or betrayed partner sort of thing.  

 And I'm a little confused by your developments thing. To many pronouns or something.


OK, I'll type more out for you Canadians.

DEVELOPMENTS:

Adrian Andrews, the manager of Matt Engarde, was involved with Juan Corrida. Her mentor was Celeste, who was Juan's former manager.

Celeste committed suicde by hanging herself. Police found ink on her fingertips, but no suicide note. Juan was the first one on the scene, and police suspected him of hiding the note. Nothing was found to prove he did, so police couldn't do anything.

NEW DEVELOPMENTS:

The knife has my client's fingerprints on it.


This doesn't make any bloody sense. Why did Adrian become involved with Juan after Celeste's death, other than a coincidence? Wait, Juan is dead...maybe the suicide was forced/faked(i.e. murdered) because Adrian wanted to be the best (can't be the best if someone is teaching you). Can't connect Juan yet though. And not sure what to make of the fingerprints.


-- Posted by GdFtherOFCOWS at 10:34 am on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from OLPFan200 at 10:59 am on Aug. 21, 2008


This doesn't make any bloody sense. Why did Adrian become involved with Juan after Celeste's death, other than a coincidence? Wait, Juan is dead...maybe the suicide was forced/faked(i.e. murdered) because Adrian wanted to be the best (can't be the best if someone is teaching you). Can't connect Juan yet though. And not sure what to make of the fingerprints.

She was really close to Celeste, and I assume she was trying to get close to him to find out what he did with the note.

Actually, soon after Celeste killed herself, Adrian tried to off herself as well.


-- Posted by OLPFan200 at 11:43 am on Aug. 21, 2008

Maybe Juan did something and the note outed him? Or maybe it outed something far more personal that, if read, would crush Adrian?

But still, how does this lead to Juan's death, and further, how does this relate to Matt stabbing Juan's corpse?


-- Posted by GdFtherOFCOWS at 1:23 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from OLPFan200 at 1:43 pm on Aug. 21, 2008


Maybe Juan did something and the note outed him? Or maybe it outed something far more personal that, if read, would crush Adrian?

But still, how does this lead to Juan's death, and further, how does this relate to Matt stabbing Juan's corpse?


Don't know, but I am about to head back to working on it.  Details later.


-- Posted by 4est at 3:34 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

To me, it seems very shady that they are assuming there is a note simply based on the ink on her fingertips. I mean, hello, letters, shopping lists, writing a check, etc. People use pens for more than suicide notes.

I'm going to go ahead and say that Celeste killed herself, Juan found her, she wasn't quite dead but had irreversible damage, and he stabbed her out of love and not wanting her to live a painful life as a partial retard forever.

How are you an attorney if you're only a highschool graduate? Is that really the only prerequisite in Arkansas?


-- Posted by GdFtherOFCOWS at 4:38 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from 4est at 5:34 pm on Aug. 21, 2008


To me, it seems very shady that they are assuming there is a note simply based on the ink on her fingertips. I mean, hello, letters, shopping lists, writing a check, etc. People use pens for more than suicide notes.

Because I also write shopping lists before I kill myself.


I'm going to go ahead and say that Celeste killed herself, Juan found her, she wasn't quite dead but had irreversible damage, and he stabbed her out of love and not wanting her to live a painful life as a partial retard forever.

Celeste was not stabbed, Juan was.  Autopsy confirmed that she died by strangulation.   Ditto with Juan.


-- Posted by 4est at 6:37 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

Wait, Juan was dead too?!

Nobody told me pen ink wore off after 5 minutes.

What if she wrote a letter to someone unrelated - her mother, her estranged lover, etc. and it hasn't been discovered yet?

What if she was having a normal day, about to go shopping, and then got some really shitty news? Or maybe she was bipolar - one moment it was a normal day, the next she was depressed.

The point is that I think it's absurd to assume that ink on fingertips = hidden suicide note.


-- Posted by GdFtherOFCOWS at 8:28 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from 4est at 8:37 pm on Aug. 21, 2008


Wait, Juan was dead too?!

*facepalm*  Did you even read the begining of the topic?


What if she wrote a letter to someone unrelated - her mother, her estranged lover, etc. and it hasn't been discovered yet?

Police turned the house upside down and sideways and didn't find anything.


-- Posted by GdFtherOFCOWS at 8:34 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from 4est at 5:34 pm on Aug. 21, 2008


How are you an attorney if you're only a highschool graduate? Is that really the only prerequisite in Arkansas?

Actually, anyone can be an attorney for about $20 - $40.


-- Posted by 4est at 9:51 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from GdFtherOFCOWS at 8:28 pm on Aug. 21, 2008


Quote: from 4est at 8:37 pm on Aug. 21, 2008

Wait, Juan was dead too?!

*facepalm*  Did you even read the begining of the topic?

 


What if she wrote a letter to someone unrelated - her mother, her estranged lover, etc. and it hasn't been discovered yet?

Police turned the house upside down and sideways and didn't find anything.


Right, usually people you know, mail letters.


-- Posted by the real anti christ at 8:24 pm on Aug. 24, 2008

Quote: from OLPFan200 at 10:52 am on Aug. 21, 2008


Quote: from the real anti christ at 9:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008

Quote: from OLPFan200 at 7:10 am on Aug. 21, 2008

The whole knife thing is either a poor attempt at a cover up ("oh there's a knife well I guess we don't need to check for other causes of death"), or an act out of anger/passion. So either you're dealing with an idiot, or a jealous lover or betrayed partner sort of thing.

  And I'm a little confused by your developments thing. To many pronouns or something.


PRONOUNS ARE AMERICAN!!!! You simply wouldn't understand.

NO BUT ATLEAST ITS IN CAPS!!!

Does anything you say anymore make sense to anyone?



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