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-- Posted by jonlester31 at 10:02 am on Aug. 19, 2008
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/aug/19/sports/sp-maddux19 It has been confirmed that vetern pitcher Greg Maddux is being traded from the San Diego Padres to the LA Dodgers
-- Posted by The Fantasy at 10:02 am on Aug. 19, 2008
werd.
-- Posted by Whiteman at 10:02 am on Aug. 19, 2008
your a redsox fan why do you care
-- Posted by robdude at 10:03 am on Aug. 19, 2008
he's washed up
-- Posted by madrascal32 at 10:03 am on Aug. 19, 2008
what did the Padres get in return?Greg Maddux is a great pitcher,i dont know if he been doing good in a while.
-- Posted by madrascal32 at 10:03 am on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from Whiteman at 10:02 am on Aug. 19, 2008
your a redsox fan why do you care
he like both.
-- Posted by jonlester31 at 10:04 am on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from Whiteman at 1:02 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
your a redsox fan why do you care
because I like the Dodgers too
-- Posted by jonlester31 at 10:05 am on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from robdude at 1:03 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
he's washed up
so do you think Randy Johnson, Tim Wakefield, and Curt Schilling are washed up too?
-- Posted by carnage44 at 10:05 am on Aug. 19, 2008
he still has enough in the tank to help them.
-- Posted by robdude at 10:06 am on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from jonlester31 at 1:05 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from robdude at 1:03 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
he's washed up
so do you think Randy Johnson, Tim Wakefield, and Curt Schilling are washed up too?
did i say that einstien?
-- Posted by Jadien at 10:06 am on Aug. 19, 2008
Point?
-- Posted by jonlester31 at 10:07 am on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from robdude at 1:06 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from jonlester31 at 1:05 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from robdude at 1:03 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
he's washed up
so do you think Randy Johnson, Tim Wakefield, and Curt Schilling are washed up too?
did i say that einstien?
you're just saying that because he's old, right? So he's under .500 maybe it's because he was with the padres
-- Posted by madrascal32 at 10:10 am on Aug. 19, 2008
6W 9L 3.99ERA 80K 161H 80R his era isn't too bad.
-- Posted by jonlester31 at 10:11 am on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from madrascal32 at 1:10 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
6W 9L 3.99ERA 80K 161H 80R his era isn't too bad. 
it's because he has no run support, he was a Padre after all
-- Posted by Vintorez at 10:12 am on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from jonlester31 at 1:05 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from robdude at 1:03 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
he's washed up
so do you think Randy Johnson, Tim Wakefield, and Curt Schilling are washed up too?
Randy johnson has shown that he can still compete, but he's far from the athlete he used to be Wakefield was never good Schilling is retired (or he said he was) they're all washed up
-- Posted by jonlester31 at 10:14 am on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from Vintorez at 1:12 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from jonlester31 at 1:05 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from robdude at 1:03 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
he's washed up
so do you think Randy Johnson, Tim Wakefield, and Curt Schilling are washed up too?
Randy johnson has shown that he can still compete, but he's far from the athlete he used to be Wakefield was never good Schilling is retired (or he said he was) they're all washed up 
Wakefield was never good is a retarded thing to say. He basiclly carried the Pirates to a WS on his back.
-- Posted by Vintorez at 10:23 am on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from jonlester31 at 1:14 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from Vintorez at 1:12 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from jonlester31 at 1:05 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from robdude at 1:03 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
he's washed up
so do you think Randy Johnson, Tim Wakefield, and Curt Schilling are washed up too?
Randy johnson has shown that he can still compete, but he's far from the athlete he used to be Wakefield was never good Schilling is retired (or he said he was) they're all washed up 
Wakefield was never good is a retarded thing to say. He basiclly carried the Pirates to a WS on his back.
wtf are you talking about? the pirates haven't won a WS since 1979 nor have they been seen in a WS game since please stop talking baseball out of your ass
-- Posted by jonlester31 at 11:21 am on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from Vintorez at 1:23 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from jonlester31 at 1:14 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from Vintorez at 1:12 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from jonlester31 at 1:05 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from robdude at 1:03 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
he's washed up
so do you think Randy Johnson, Tim Wakefield, and Curt Schilling are washed up too?
Randy johnson has shown that he can still compete, but he's far from the athlete he used to be Wakefield was never good Schilling is retired (or he said he was) they're all washed up 
Wakefield was never good is a retarded thing to say. He basiclly carried the Pirates to a WS on his back.
wtf are you talking about? the pirates haven't won a WS since 1979 nor have they been seen in a WS game since please stop talking baseball out of your ass 
yeah I worded that wrong. he was phenominal in the 92Pennant but his other pitchers weren't so lucky. And a NL Rookie Pitcher of the Year(wich he was) means he must be good.
-- Posted by Vintorez at 12:46 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from jonlester31 at 2:21 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from Vintorez at 1:23 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from jonlester31 at 1:14 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from Vintorez at 1:12 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from jonlester31 at 1:05 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from robdude at 1:03 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
he's washed up
so do you think Randy Johnson, Tim Wakefield, and Curt Schilling are washed up too?
Randy johnson has shown that he can still compete, but he's far from the athlete he used to be Wakefield was never good Schilling is retired (or he said he was) they're all washed up 
Wakefield was never good is a retarded thing to say. He basiclly carried the Pirates to a WS on his back.
wtf are you talking about? the pirates haven't won a WS since 1979 nor have they been seen in a WS game since please stop talking baseball out of your ass 
yeah I worded that wrong. he was phenominal in the 92Pennant but his other pitchers weren't so lucky. And a NL Rookie Pitcher of the Year(wich he was) means he must be good.
do you know how many "rookie of the years" ended up being flops? it happens all the damn time, you can't say a player is good based on playing well in one year of your career. Oh, and Wakefield never won Rookie of the year. And all the starters from the 92 Pirates were good, so i dunno where you get "the others weren't so lucky". Where do you get your info?
-- Posted by jonlester31 at 12:49 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from Vintorez at 3:46 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from jonlester31 at 2:21 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from Vintorez at 1:23 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from jonlester31 at 1:14 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from Vintorez at 1:12 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from jonlester31 at 1:05 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from robdude at 1:03 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
he's washed up
so do you think Randy Johnson, Tim Wakefield, and Curt Schilling are washed up too?
Randy johnson has shown that he can still compete, but he's far from the athlete he used to be Wakefield was never good Schilling is retired (or he said he was) they're all washed up 
Wakefield was never good is a retarded thing to say. He basiclly carried the Pirates to a WS on his back.
wtf are you talking about? the pirates haven't won a WS since 1979 nor have they been seen in a WS game since please stop talking baseball out of your ass 
yeah I worded that wrong. he was phenominal in the 92Pennant but his other pitchers weren't so lucky. And a NL Rookie Pitcher of the Year(wich he was) means he must be good.
do you know how many "rookie of the years" ended up being flops? it happens all the damn time, you can't say a player is good based on playing well in one year of your career. Oh, and Wakefield never won Rookie of the year. And all the starters from the 92 Pirates were good, so i dunno where you get "the others weren't so lucky". Where do you get your info? 
I don't see how you don't think Wakefield has never been good.
-- Posted by Vintorez at 1:03 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
He's average, not good, nor bad.
-- Posted by jonlester31 at 1:24 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
Quote: from Vintorez at 4:03 pm on Aug. 19, 2008
He's average, not good, nor bad.
then give me a list of who you consider 5good, average, and bad each
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