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-- Posted by iconoclast at 7:56 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

looks like the pigs need better shit to do

i guess its fun intimidating people though

or maybe theyre paranoid, never underestimate a 'suspect'  


-- Posted by greeneyedone at 7:57 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

I know where I live, if there is more than one car, the person that was pulled over is getting arrested because they have to have another cop with them whenever they arrest someone.


-- Posted by mrlupo8 at 7:57 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

yeah their too fat to catch meth heads now a days so they box everybody in and once in a while its worth the time wasted. and they dont have shit to do


-- Posted by iconoclast at 7:57 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Quote: from greeneyedone at 10:57 pm on Aug. 19, 2008


I know where I live, if there is more than one car, the person that was pulled over is getting arrested because they have to have another cop with them whenever they arrest someone.
i got 2 cop cars for my stop and on over 50% of traffic stops ive seen 2-3


-- Posted by motorhead113 at 7:58 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Yeah, for some reason there was a shitload of bacon out tonight. I saw 6-7 cruisers on the way home from a friends house. I'm glad I didn't go bombin tonight. I'm a fuckin' ninja like that, but 6 patrol cars? Outnumberedness sucks.


-- Posted by iconoclast at 7:58 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

they brought three cruisers and two fire trucks because some idiots were setting off low-budget fireworks two years ago

fucking idiots


-- Posted by agerask at 7:59 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

why do you care, just don't speed


-- Posted by dr woot at 8:00 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

In case someone tries to get away they're all like, "Aw snap!"


-- Posted by iconoclast at 8:04 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Quote: from agerask at 10:59 pm on Aug. 19, 2008


why do you care, just don't speed
because theyre wasting our tax dollars


-- Posted by mattchew at 8:06 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Probly cause new joisey is full of yanks.


-- Posted by hinshawwrx at 9:03 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Officer safety.

/end useless thread


-- Posted by iconoclast at 9:20 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

i already mentioned paranoia hinshawwrx but thanks for reiterating

it really drove the point home


-- Posted by iconoclast at 9:20 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

if cops werent fucking idiotic douchebags maybe they wouldnt have to be as concerned about safety


-- Posted by Holden Commodore at 9:34 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

:cops werent fucking idiotic douchebags :

I know you didn't say that. I read it wrong. You know DAMN Well that the first person you call when you have a problem is the police and here you are talking shit on them? Try putting yourself in their position. You don't know WHO or WHAT you're pulling over, what they've done, what they COULD DO.. It's better to be safe than sorry. If no bullshit ever happened then they wouldn't have backup. Stop making fuckin troll topics. What, are you gonna now post how the "white man" has been keeping you down for what, 4, 5, 600 years? Get over yourself and open your eyes. This is 2008. People get killed everyday, cops have to deal with it, and when some douchebag decides he wants to do 5+ and they decide to pull him over, the person is MAD because they got caught doing something wrong. Grow up


-- Posted by iconoclast at 9:52 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

I'm in a bad mood tonight, so I guess I'll rip you and hinshaw some new assholes.


I know you didn't say that. I read it wrong. You know DAMN Well that the first person you call when you have a problem is the police and here you are talking shit on them?
Oh, hi. This is a statement I have no evidence for. I'm assuming this based on nothing at all.


Try putting yourself in their position. You don't know WHO or WHAT you're pulling over, what they've done, what they COULD DO.. It's better to be safe than sorry.
Let's just go out with heavy armor and shotguns! Newsflash, idiot, the chances of being viciously attacked, let alone killed are almost nothing except in very dangerous inner-city areas.


If no bullshit ever happened then they wouldn't have backup.

Assumption 1: Police think rationally

Assumption 2: Police are not power hungry douchebags

Assumption 3: Police are not paranoid idiots

But, let's just assume that there's a good reason for everything that's done. Things are easier that way.


Stop making fuckin troll topics.
Hi, I'm a car forum thundercunt, my car forum is a very serious forum. It's my very serious retreat that I defend against all possible intruders. In reality, I'm a fat ugly fuck without a sense of humor.


What, are you gonna now post how the "white man" has been keeping you down for what, 4, 5, 600 years?
I am white, you blithering fucktard.


Get over yourself and open your eyes.
I will explain very slowly....

Dislike for certain aspects of an organization of individuals does not mean that this organization is utterly worthless, or that it should not be ideally respected.  

Now, was that clear enough for you?


This is 2008.
Oh, I'm sorry. I was stuck back in the 1800s. I'm just an ignorant nigger ape who hates the po-po.


some douchebag decides he wants to do 5+
So, why is he a douchebag?


and they decide to pull him over, the person is MAD because they got caught doing something wrong. Grow up
ITS WRONG BECAUSE ITS THE LAW, LAWS ARE NEVER WRONG, I LOVE THE LAW....ahhhhhhh

No seriously, you get a grip. Your kind of thinking keeps bullshit paranoia alive, and lets these assholes get away with murder. I have a sense of humor, and perspective on these things that isn't extremely one-dimensional like yours. Kindly go fuck yourself, and good day.


-- Posted by Holden Commodore at 9:59 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

wat ? wite?


-- Posted by iconoclast at 9:59 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Quote: from Holden Commodore at 12:59 am on Aug. 20, 2008


wat ? wite?


obviously you havent been around here that long


-- Posted by Holden Commodore at 10:00 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

no, perhaps you should enlighten me.


-- Posted by iconoclast at 10:02 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Quote: from Holden Commodore at 1:00 am on Aug. 20, 2008


no, perhaps you should enlighten me.
sigh....

   


-- Posted by mcodeath at 10:17 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

Why?

Thats why. Doesn't matter if its inner city or not, there are people who are fully unpredictable and its better safe than sorry.


-- Posted by iconoclast at 10:39 pm on Aug. 19, 2008

that's very rare, though. these stories are taken from across the nation out of millions of traffic stops

its just not plausible for it to happen in most areas


-- Posted by hinshawwrx at 1:28 am on Aug. 20, 2008

very rare? Hell maybe you've not looked around.

www.officer.com for some recent incidents involving police.

Fact is, Officer safety is key. Seeing as not to long ago you could turn on the tv and watch one of 5 police chases throughout the country. OR the fact that they have enough footage to make over 100 hours of "wildest police chases" and "most daring moments" with maybe a 5% repeat rate.

Fact is, your a fucking dumbass. Go talk to local law enforcement, do a ride along even. Then maybe you'll FINALLY realize some of the shit you speak against that you have NO idea about.


-- Posted by iconoclast at 5:05 am on Aug. 20, 2008

Quote: from hinshawwrx at 4:28 am on Aug. 20, 2008


very rare? Hell maybe you've not looked around.
Maybe you're a fucking dumbass. Statistically rare. I'm talking about officers actually getting shot or stabbed. In routine traffic stops, except in extremely dangerous areas, things like the video above are very rare. Occasionally, there will be the drunk guy that resists arrest, though.


Fact is, Officer safety is key.
Oh, hi. I'm spewing the same irrelevant bullshit as before.

Because it's highly unlikely that a plane will drop out of the sky and squash my ass, I feel no need to live in a bunker.


Seeing as not to long ago you could turn on the tv and watch one of 5 police chases throughout the country.
Really, when? Has this ever been the case? While police chases are not uncommon in the media, this has nothing to necessarily do with traffic stops nor does this portray an accurate depiction of the danger to the police.

Funny how you should use the media as a 'source' for your 'argument', you pathetic waste of space.


OR the fact that they have enough footage to make over 100 hours of "wildest police chases" and "most daring moments" with maybe a 5% repeat rate.
Once again, people remember the exciting things that go on, not the boring. Many police chases also go on for a very long time, so try again.


Fact is, your a fucking dumbass.
Oh, the fucking irony.

You have about as much intellect and understanding of the way the world works as a piece of stale dog shit.


Go talk to local law enforcement
This is a great way to find out objective information about the issue


do a ride along even. Then maybe you'll FINALLY realize some of the shit you speak against that you have NO idea about.
There hasn't been a murder here since 1988. Murders, while common in the news, are usually in city areas, and are statistically rare. Same with shootings of police. Why one would have ride along with police to know this....I don't know. But, maybe this is just a thinly veiled emotional appeal.

Do I have to eat dog shit to know it tastes like shit?

No, the smell is enough.


-- Posted by mymerej at 9:24 am on Aug. 20, 2008

Quote: from Holden Commodore at 9:34 pm on Aug. 19, 2008


You know DAMN Well that the first person you call when you have a problem is the police...(other useless shit here)

??????? Uhm, no.


-- Posted by hinshawwrx at 11:24 am on Aug. 20, 2008

No murder since 1988 and you act like this is the same case for the rest of the world. Talk about narrowminded.

LAst year the city of Peoria had 23 murders, including one on new years day. They couldn't wait long eh.

More the drunk guys resist. Goto Chicago and see what happens. Heres a hint, in the ghetto if they see a cop they run. True story.

Completly different situation from living in a bunker to having backup in case something happens. But hey, in your peaceful town where theres not been a murder in 20 years no one needs help, hell I bet no one ever has to call the police either eh?

Media wasn't source for the argument, it was simply a link to show you what happens. Then again the media is clearly all lies and secretly controlled by the government and nazi's right?

No one said a ride along would show you theres no murders in your town, however you would realize what all police do in a day. Its a great learning tool, that obviously your too narrowminded to take advantage of and continue to argue stupid shit based on NO source at all. Amazing how that works eh?

Waste of space, in the 10 threads about police you've made, you've yet to persuade one person that police are useless and do nothing at all. Fact is, without police as even a simple mediator, the world would be a LOT worse.


-- Posted by iconoclast at 11:42 am on Aug. 20, 2008

Quote: from hinshawwrx at 2:24 pm on Aug. 20, 2008


No murder since 1988 and you act like this is the same case for the rest of the world. Talk about narrowminded.
Go on and point out where I said this.


LAst year the city of Peoria had 23 murders, including one on new years day. They couldn't wait long eh.
Of course, you ignored what I said about urban areas. Even so, the exact number doesn't matter, how many of those had to do with traffic stops?


More the drunk guys resist. Goto Chicago and see what happens. Heres a hint, in the ghetto if they see a cop they run. True story.  
Notice how I already mentioned very dangerous areas, but you totally ignored what I said.


Completly different situation from living in a bunker to having backup in case something happens.
Sorry you can't think in a broad context, but hey, I'll explain it. They're both paranoia.


Media wasn't source for the argument, it was simply a link to show you what happens.
The media isn't an accurate representation of what happens.


Then again the media is clearly all lies and secretly controlled by the government and nazi's right?
No, but they're sensationalist, exaggerating dickweeds.


No one said a ride along would show you theres no murders in your town, however you would realize what all police do in a day.
Again, you don't need direct experience to know something. Except with things such as severe depression, saying 'you don't know what you're talking about unless you've experienced it directly' isn't really a valid statement.


Its a great learning tool, that obviously your too narrowminded to take advantage of and continue to argue stupid shit based on NO source at all.
Most of my 'sources' are basic logic and common sense, with some research thrown in. Hint: If you refuse to rely on anything but studies and external sources and don't think for yourself, then it shows pretty big stupidity on your part. Research is good and all, but if you can't think for yourself, then your point is worthless. That is, unless we're talking about chemistry.



Waste of space, in the 10 threads about police you've made, you've yet to persuade one person that police are useless and do nothing at all.
Really? Enlighten me. When did I exactly say the police are useless? Being a legalist asshat, you interpret anything but utmost admiration for police forces as a personal attack. Some police do valuable things, but at least today, most police work is a joke. I actually believe that ideally, the police should be respected, but unfortunately many do very stupid things that make them undeserving of it.


Fact is, without police as even a simple mediator, the world would be a LOT worse.
Of course it would. That's like saying the sky is blue. Whether or not their current actions as 'mediators' contribute to a positive atmosphere is the big question.



Amazing how that works eh?
Pretty fucking amazing. You're like this guy on here called yankeefan. Let me tell you a bit about him. He's a fanatical 'Christian' or a troll, who weaves these huge snowball fallacies out of nothing. Except, you're a lot less eloquent, and a lot more loud.

1. Yank says some nonsensical crap

2. Response is given

3. Yank picks on technicalities and insignificant flaws in the other person's posts

4. Respondent points this out

5. Goes off on another tangent

yada yada yada

get a new line kid, youre boring, no one cares about your stupid car forum, and youre a lamebrained fucktard


-- Posted by hinshawwrx at 12:47 pm on Aug. 20, 2008

Funny how you say no experience is needed for something to make comments, especially with a job like law enforcement and say media isn't accurate, yet your whole basis for hate of law enforcement is based off just that, the media.

Get a new line? Your the one trying to argue in every thread about how law enforcement and laws are stupid and have NO EVIDENCE to support such. Oh yea, your links in your famous speed limits are useless thread, thats a form of media, therefore your argument is based on nothing but lies according to you.

No one cares about this forum? Then why do you keep coming back again? Obviously SOMEONE cares.

Hell half the posts I make towards you are to piss you off, that and you have no idea what goes on during a traffic stop or a day in the life of law enforcement.


-- Posted by iconoclast at 1:20 pm on Aug. 20, 2008

No experience? No direct experience, if you're intelligent and observant. I don't even watch the news, so I don't know what you're talking about.

Nice job ignoring my point about basic logic. I don't need a study to 'prove' that certain laws are stupid. They just go contrary to basic human rights, which is a logical error. And, someone enforcing a stupid law that does such, without being effectively forced to, is a numbskull. Unlike you, I can think for myself.

Technically everything printed is a form of media, but nice job taking things out of context. You're a real winner here. Those links were not part of the 'mainstream' media which is typically the most sensationalist and vapid. Nor did I base my entire argument on that, most of it was just common sense and basic logic, but you ever so severely demanded to see some 'source' for something that doesn't need one, so I delivered. And, as predicted, you nitpicked, twisted things, etc.

You are confusing 'unfounded opinion' with basic logic, probably purposely because you don't like logic, seeing as it would force you to change your ignorant views if you used it. One is objective, one is not. I can easily demonstrate that both 'speeding' and 'drug' laws are illogical based on their violation of basic liberties and dishonesty.

Funny you should say that you make posts to piss me off, this seems pretty unlikely considering you explode every time you make some failing argument.

Not only does your very posting style pretty much burst with anger and frustration, but you're pretty much a clone of other angry hotheads who wanted to defend their crap to the death.

Especially since I don't really give a shit what you say, since you haven't said anything that would stand in a logical discussion as far as I can remember.

So, genius, what goes on during a traffic stop? You act like it's so special, kind of like how some fucktards act like the mod forum is particularly interesting.

Look up the definition of logic, learn about it, get to know it. Then maybe someone will take you seriously. You don't need studies to prove blatantly obvious things. However, since most people have been brainwashed with this 'speed kills' bullshit, a lot of people think you do. Especially the pigs who are fed this horseshit at the academy so they never question their robbing of people.


yankeefan was damn 'convincing' aside from the fact that he wove huge snoball fallacies and everything he said was logically worthless. with or without his bullshit 'links'. so really, there's not much difference here.

But I guess 'logic' is worthless without statistics to back it up?


-- Posted by hinshawwrx at 3:55 pm on Aug. 20, 2008

ROFLCAKES

you said media is biased, slandered, etc etc etc. Then you argue when I say your media is the same because its media like you generalized.

Seriously, your a complete idiot. Go for a ride a long, even for a few hours. If you want to argue after that, then go for it but you'll have a completely different out look.


-- Posted by iconoclast at 9:30 pm on Aug. 20, 2008

media i referred to in context was mainstream media, fox news cnn etc

once again nitpicking

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