-- Posted by Anonymous at 9:26 am on Aug. 21, 2008
Support PETA
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), with more than 2.0 million members and supporters, is the largest animal rights organization in the world.
PETA focuses its attention on the four areas in which the largest numbers of animals suffer the most intensely for the longest periods of time: on factory farms, in laboratories, in the clothing trade, and in the entertainment industry. We also work on a variety of other issues, including the cruel killing of beavers, birds and other "pests," and the abuse of backyard dogs.
PETA works through public education, cruelty investigations, research, animal rescue, legislation, special events, celebrity involvement, and protest campaigns.
Support ASPCA
The ASPCA was founded in 1866 as the first humane organization in the Western Hemisphere. The Society was formed to alleviate the injustices animals faced then, and we continue to battle cruelty today. Whether it's saving a pet who has been accidentally poisoned, fighting to pass humane laws, rescuing animals from abuse or sharing resources with shelters across the country, we work toward the day in which no animal will live in pain or fear. Come and join us in the fight to end animal cruelty—
PETA and ASPCA supports animals that look like this:
I didn't want to post all the gruesome ones. If you're curious, google search animal cruelty.
To keep this from total advertising, what have you done to help animals that are tortured or neglected? Are you a vegetarian? Do you support helping mistreated animals but still eat meat? Have you donated to PETA, ASPCA, or other organizations? Share.
-- Posted by wOlF at 9:26 am on Aug. 21, 2008
I don't support PETA, because they are the craziest fuckers around.
-- Posted by silverbullets at 9:30 am on Aug. 21, 2008
i dont eat poultry. i dont eat meat often. i tell people the truth about where theyr food comes from. i rescue any homeless animal in need of help. i make the aspca aware of bad situations. like theres a guy behind us who has 3 dogs that live in a car while he live in a house.
-- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 9:30 am on Aug. 21, 2008
Fuck PETA. I support animals rights but fuck PETA. They may have good intentions but Ive heard bad thngs about their methods.
-- Posted by Anonymous at 9:30 am on Aug. 21, 2008
Quote: from UnusualOne at 12:28 pm on Aug. 21, 2008
NOT ANIMAL RIGHTS.
ANIMAL WELFARE.
That's my opinion, extremist animal rights people are nuts.
Welfare however, is a different matter.
I didn't mention that in my topic. But, I've wondered about that. Isn't welfare of an animal a right? If you say no, then the welfare of a human is no different. Governments shouldn't care.
-- Posted by Just Waiting Here at 9:31 am on Aug. 21, 2008
I do eat meat, but I never waste my meat. It's part of the reason that I'm willing to try all edible parts of an animal, just because I find it more respectful that way.
I haven't done anything to make a difference in this area. My sister and I have donated animal food and treats to shelters and the like, but I haven't ever reported a mistreated animal (because I haven't seen one), nor a donated to the actual organization.
I don't support PETA, because they are the craziest fuckers around.
But its for a good cause.
The road to hell is paved in good intentions.
Yeahh, and if I die tonight, at least I can say I did what I wanted to doo, tell me, how about you?
I don't think you were referencing that song, but yeah..
To the OP: PETA's a bit cuckoo
-- Posted by SovSull at 9:32 am on Aug. 21, 2008
i put animals out of their misery by eating them also peta is completely crazy
-- Posted by Light Assassin at 9:32 am on Aug. 21, 2008
Peta literally plants bombs in places like drug companies. My dad works at one of the top 3 drug companies in the world, and what they use animals for is not as cruel as everyone makes it out to be. PETA has no right to be so fucking psychotic. therefore, PETA fails.
-- Posted by Light Assassin at 9:34 am on Aug. 21, 2008
Quote: from UnusualOne at 12:28 pm on Aug. 21, 2008
NOT ANIMAL RIGHTS.
ANIMAL WELFARE.
That's my opinion, extremist animal rights people are nuts.
Welfare however, is a different matter.
I didn't mention that in my topic. But, I've wondered about that. Isn't welfare of an animal a right? If you say no, then the welfare of a human is no different. Governments shouldn't care.
Animals will never be as important as humans. Just based on the fact that you and I are having this conversation right now, you can tell that humans are much smarter than any animals. If animals deserved rights that were as developed as human rights, they would have to be smart enough to do something about it.
I can't bring myself to not eat meat... but I do refuse to buy leather etc.
-- Posted by the raven at 9:35 am on Aug. 21, 2008
Quote: from UnusualOne at 12:28 pm on Aug. 21, 2008
NOT ANIMAL RIGHTS.
ANIMAL WELFARE.
That's my opinion, extremist animal rights people are nuts.
Welfare however, is a different matter.
True story. I agree 200%. I've been rescuing animals my entire life, and I have never supported the extremist views of animal rights. Their movements get nothing done, and it is nothing but fear mongering (and that's not just PeTA, ALF and other AR orgs do more than their fair share of bullshit).
IFAW is much better than the organizations you listed, honestly. Even the ASPCA has serious flaws in how they operate. As does the HSU.
And it should be noted that ASPCA is New York based, not necessarily the overlord of every SPCA out there.
-- Posted by qi at 9:35 am on Aug. 21, 2008
I don't support PETA. As for the ASPCA, well, I'm not a fan of the way they take care of their animals and their kill policy. I have donated to numerous non-kill shelters. I have also fed, spayed, and neutered multiple colonies of homeless cats before.
-- Posted by BeautifulxLiar at 9:37 am on Aug. 21, 2008
Quote: from UnusualOne at 12:28 pm on Aug. 21, 2008
NOT ANIMAL RIGHTS.
ANIMAL WELFARE.
That's my opinion, extremist animal rights people are nuts.
I didn't mention that in my topic. But, I've wondered about that. Isn't welfare of an animal a right? If you say no, then the welfare of a human is no different. Governments shouldn't care.
No, they're both different things.
Welfare is to look after the animal responsibly.
Rights is to treat the animal as if it were human. And while I believe animals are not lower than humans, they are also different. You can't treat animals as though they are humans.
True story. I agree 200%. I've been rescuing animals my entire life, and I have never supported the extremist views of animal rights. Their movements get nothing done, and it is nothing but fear mongering (and that's not just PeTA, ALF and other AR orgs do more than their fair share of bullshit).
IFAW is much better than the organizations you listed, honestly. Even the ASPCA has serious flaws in how they operate. As does the HSU.
And it should be noted that ASPCA is New York based, not necessarily the overlord of every SPCA out there.
I was wondering where you were
-- Posted by Anonymous at 9:40 am on Aug. 21, 2008
Quote: from UnusualOne at 12:28 pm on Aug. 21, 2008
NOT ANIMAL RIGHTS.
ANIMAL WELFARE.
That's my opinion, extremist animal rights people are nuts.
Welfare however, is a different matter.
I didn't mention that in my topic. But, I've wondered about that. Isn't welfare of an animal a right? If you say no, then the welfare of a human is no different. Governments shouldn't care.
Animals will never be as important as humans. Just based on the fact that you and I are having this conversation right now, you can tell that humans are much smarter than any animals. If animals deserved rights that were as developed as human rights, they would have to be smart enough to do something about it.
So because animals can't talk, they're not smart. That white dog on TV can't ride a skateboard? That seems pretty smart to me. We're animals ourselves in a sense.
-- Posted by BeautifulxLiar at 9:41 am on Aug. 21, 2008
I don't support PETA. As for the ASPCA, well, I'm not a fan of the way they take care of their animals and their kill policy. I have donated to numerous non-kill shelters. I have also fed, spayed, and neutered multiple colonies of homeless cats before.
So because animals can't talk, they're not smart. That white dog on TV can't ride a skateboard? That seems pretty smart to me. We're animals ourselves in a sense.
Correction, we are animals.
-- Posted by the raven at 9:41 am on Aug. 21, 2008
Quote: from UnusualOne at 12:37 pm on Aug. 21, 2008
I didn't mention that in my topic. But, I've wondered about that. Isn't welfare of an animal a right? If you say no, then the welfare of a human is no different. Governments shouldn't care.
No, they're both different things.
Welfare is to look after the animal responsibly.
Rights is to treat the animal as if it were human. And while I believe animals are not lower than humans, they are also different. You can't treat animals as though they are humans.
Should also be noted that animal rights activists do not believe in working dogs. Horseback riding and bee-keeping are also out of the question. And many of those organizations have been fighting a brick wall trying to get these things outlawed.
I guess it's okay to support keeping a dog from following the instincts we've bred into them over centuries, even millenniums.
-- Posted by BeautifulxLiar at 9:41 am on Aug. 21, 2008