Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by aGIRLunknown at 4:36 am on Aug. 29, 2008 OK so these are my views please don't criticize them and say I am wrong. This is My opinion I know in today's society I am considered wrong, But I would like to see you grow up in a house hold and family with NOTHING but racist people, Eventually you might think the same thing, or start to think you do. I don't discriminate against people for their color or Gender or w/e else. I respect people's life decisions...... So don't call me racist b/c I am NOT, I have never called anyone a "N", Nor will I Ever I find it wrong and hurtful... Like I could NEVER EVER date or have a child with any other race but white. For some reason I can't bring myself to do that. Now I have many black friends and they all know my feelings towards that kinda thing. I kinda get grossed out if I see a black and white couple together But I won't ever say anything I just smile and say hello. Some of my black friends are dating some of my white friends and they know my feelings like I said before and they find it ok, I rly don't care who they date I just can not for the life of me date any race but my own -- Posted by VirtusInternus at 4:37 am on Aug. 29, 2008 good for you -- Posted by bangalterdaft at 4:40 am on Aug. 29, 2008 Everyone has their preferences. Just because you perfer to date white people dosen't make you racist. It is just your preference. Simple as that. -- Posted by marshmellowman at 4:41 am on Aug. 29, 2008 So let's say you and your white husband have a child that's black, what would you do then? But you are a racist, you don't need to say nigger to be one, you're avoiding people because of the colour of their skin. That's racism. -- Posted by VirtusInternus at 4:42 am on Aug. 29, 2008 maybe you made the nigger thread-out with it -- Posted by shadowofchar at 4:43 am on Aug. 29, 2008 race shouldn't play a factor in whether or not you want to date someone any more than looks should... don't judge someone for what they have no control over (looks [not fitness, that's a health issue and not a looks issue; by 'looks' i mean eye color, nose size/shape, etc], race, sex, gender identity, sexuality, etc)... judge people for the choices they make (how well they take care of their health, how they treat others, what they pursue in life, etc) -- Posted by aGIRLunknown at 4:46 am on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from marshmellowman at 7:41 am on Aug. 29, 2008 So let's say you and your white husband have a child that's black, what would you do then? But you are a racist, you don't need to say nigger to be one, you're avoiding people because of the colour of their skin. That's racism. I wouldn't But I would adopt a black or white child if it came down to it. -- Posted by marshmellowman at 4:48 am on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from aGIRLunknown at 12:46 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from marshmellowman at 7:41 am on Aug. 29, 2008 So let's say you and your white husband have a child that's black, what would you do then?    But you are a racist, you don't need to say nigger to be one, you're avoiding people because of the colour of their skin. That's racism. I wouldn't But I would adopt a black or white child if it came down to it. So you don't plan on having children at all? Because it's very possible for a white couple to have a black child, however unlikely. Well that's better if you'd adopt either a black or white child. -- Posted by vicky91 at 4:50 am on Aug. 29, 2008 im the same really. none of my friends date different races though -- Posted by aGIRLunknown at 4:51 am on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from marshmellowman at 7:48 am on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from aGIRLunknown at 12:46 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from marshmellowman at 7:41 am on Aug. 29, 2008 So let's say you and your white husband have a child that's black, what would you do then?   But you are a racist, you don't need to say nigger to be one, you're avoiding people because of the colour of their skin. That's racism.    I wouldn't But I would adopt a black or white child if it came down to it. So you don't plan on having children at all? Because it's very possible for a white couple to have a black child, however unlikely. Well that's better if you'd adopt either a black or white child. I have a certain time span to have children Like b4 I am 25 cuz I am that freaken special (not rly it just sux ass)... But if I couldn't I would adopt either or. I wouldn't adopt a white child and say fuck the black child I just could never have a half white and half black child myself, I think a lot of black children r cute white children as well. -- Posted by TheAntiBarbie at 7:18 am on Aug. 29, 2008 Not wanting to date outside of your own race isn't really racism, but  you can't blame your family for making you racist. -- Posted by toastme16 at 7:37 am on Aug. 29, 2008 having pride in one's race isn't racist. Just because I won't ever date a black doesn't make me racist. and it is impossible to have a black child if both parents are fully, pure white. and racism itself isn't wrong, everyone is racist when you think about it. -- Posted by baby tee at 8:41 am on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from bangalterdaft at 12:40 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Everyone has their preferences. Just because you perfer to date white people dosen't make you racist. It is just your preference. Simple as that. true -- Posted by Youngchica at 12:43 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Wow.  So you would be grossed out because me and my WHITE boyfriend are walking down the street? Wtf? We are not garbage you know -- Posted by babygurl 2008 at 1:21 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 ok and what you want us to do with this situation -- Posted by Headst0ck at 1:33 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from toastme16 at 7:37 am on Aug. 29, 2008 and racism itself isn't wrong, everyone is racist when you think about it. For the love of God would you please refrain from saying dumb shit. -- Posted by whoareyou at 1:44 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Congratulations, you must be proud of yourself. I mean, considering the fact that you're nazi sympathizer and you come from a family of white supremacists. -- Posted by kidd rune at 3:55 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from marshmellowman at 4:41 am on Aug. 29, 2008 But you are a racist, you don't need to say nigger to be one, you're avoiding people because of the colour of their skin. That's racism. No it's not. I have never called anyone a "N", Nor will I Ever I find it wrong and hurtful... Saying nigger doesn't make you racist. it's very possible for a white couple to have a black child Oh, really? So their kid has 200,000 years worth of genetic mutations right before birth? -- Posted by Keile at 9:35 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from kidd rune at 3:55 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from marshmellowman at 4:41 am on Aug. 29, 2008 But you are a racist, you don't need to say nigger to be one, you're avoiding people because of the colour of their skin. That's racism. No it's not.   I have never called anyone a "N", Nor will I Ever I find it wrong and hurtful... Saying nigger doesn't make you racist.   it's very possible for a white couple to have a black child Oh, really? So their kid has 200,000 years worth of genetic mutations right before birth? Actually, avoiding someone because of disdain towards their racial background is racist. You don't like that person because of his race. Thats racist. The genetic mutation conjecture crap isn't true and it is possible for a otherwise white couple to have a black child as long as both such people have recent black ancestry. -- Posted by kidd rune at 9:43 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Actually, avoiding someone because of disdain towards their racial background is racist. That AUTOMATICALLY means that you see them as inferior or that you hate them? No, it doesn't. You don't like that person because of his race. Thats racist. Yes, but the 1st sentence isn't ALWAYS linked to the other. The genetic mutation conjecture crap isn't true and it is possible for a otherwise white couple to have a black child as long as both such people have recent black ancestry. Seeing as recent would have to make them about 1/4 negro, they would still be 'black' by the one-drop rule. Two 100% whites can't make a negro of any form. -- Posted by The Artful Dodger at 9:46 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from kidd rune at 9:43 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Actually, avoiding someone because of disdain towards their racial background is racist. That AUTOMATICALLY means that you see them as inferior or that you hate them? No, it doesn't. You don't like that person because of his race. Thats racist. Yes, but the 1st sentence isn't ALWAYS linked to the other.   The genetic mutation conjecture crap isn't true and it is possible for a otherwise white couple to have a black child as long as both such people have recent black ancestry. Seeing as recent would have to make them about 1/4 negro, they would still be 'black' by the one-drop rule. Two 100% whites can't make a negro of any form. One drop rule, just the labels black & white, is just a social construct. Black people genes don't just get in the stream and take over 100%. Most "black" people walking in the West (islands included) are mixes already. -- Posted by kidd rune at 9:55 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from The Artful Dodger at 9:46 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from kidd rune at 9:43 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Actually, avoiding someone because of disdain towards their racial background is racist. That AUTOMATICALLY means that you see them as inferior or that you hate them? No, it doesn't.     You don't like that person because of his race. Thats racist. Yes, but the 1st sentence isn't ALWAYS linked to the other.       The genetic mutation conjecture crap isn't true and it is possible for a otherwise white couple to have a black child as long as both such people have recent black ancestry. Seeing as recent would have to make them about 1/4 negro, they would still be 'black' by the one-drop rule.    Two 100% whites can't make a negro of any form. One drop rule, just the labels black & white, is just a social construct. Black people genes don't just get in the stream and take over 100%. Most "black" people walking in the West (islands included) are mixes already. Yes, but if a white had ANY Negro genes, they'd be considered Negroes by the one-drop rule. If they were Negroes, they would not be included in the 'two whites make a negro baby' claim, would they? -- Posted by The Artful Dodger at 9:58 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from kidd rune at 9:55 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from The Artful Dodger at 9:46 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from kidd rune at 9:43 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Actually, avoiding someone because of disdain towards their racial background is racist. That AUTOMATICALLY means that you see them as inferior or that you hate them? No, it doesn't.   You don't like that person because of his race. Thats racist. Yes, but the 1st sentence isn't ALWAYS linked to the other.       The genetic mutation conjecture crap isn't true and it is possible for a otherwise white couple to have a black child as long as both such people have recent black ancestry. Seeing as recent would have to make them about 1/4 negro, they would still be 'black' by the one-drop rule.   Two 100% whites can't make a negro of any form.    One drop rule, just the labels black & white, is just a social construct. Black people genes don't just get in the stream and take over 100%. Most "black" people walking in the West (islands included) are mixes already. Yes, but if a white had ANY Negro genes, they'd be considered Negroes by the one-drop rule. If they were Negroes, they would not be included in the 'two whites make a negro baby' claim, would they? I don't think any few dormant strands of DNA from colonial times can really qualify any body as a negro, just as I don't consider myself a Scott. -- Posted by Keile at 10:03 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Quote: from kidd rune at 9:43 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Actually, avoiding someone because of disdain towards their racial background is racist. That AUTOMATICALLY means that you see them as inferior or that you hate them? No, it doesn't.   You don't like that person because of his race. Thats racist. Yes, but the 1st sentence isn't ALWAYS linked to the other.   The genetic mutation conjecture crap isn't true and it is possible for a otherwise white couple to have a black child as long as both such people have recent black ancestry. Seeing as recent would have to make them about 1/4 negro, they would still be 'black' by the one-drop rule.   Two 100% whites can't make a negro of any form. You don't have to hate them to be racist. You just have to show disdain in a manner that befits inequality. Hate is hard to accurately gauge and not many will admit to hating someone unless a positive can be gleaned from saying so. Avoiding someone on the street because of their background is RACIST. Asking to your McDonald's order to be taken by another simply because of their background is RACIST. Throwing rocks at people because they are of a different background is racist. These beliefs befit racial hate and/or inequality. It is OK to not like someone because of the content of w ho they are, but not liking them for who they are as a person is racist if it involves racially motivated intentions. Yet, any of these actions can be done without actively saying you believe one is inferior or admitting to hating said person based on background. Actions speak louder than tight-lipped words. Quote: from kidd rune at 9:43 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 Actually, avoiding someone because of disdain towards their racial background is racist. That AUTOMATICALLY means that you see them as inferior or that you hate them? No, it doesn't.   You don't like that person because of his race. Thats racist. Yes, but the 1st sentence isn't ALWAYS linked to the other.   The genetic mutation conjecture crap isn't true and it is possible for a otherwise white couple to have a black child as long as both such people have recent black ancestry. Seeing as recent would have to make them about 1/4 negro, they would still be 'black' by the one-drop rule.   Two 100% whites can't make a negro of any form. The one-drop rule doesn't biologically exist, so the children would be of mixed race ancestry. " The one-drop rule is a historical colloquial term in the United States that holds that a person with any trace of African ancestry is considered black unless having an alternative non-white ancestry which he or she can claim, such as Native American, Asian, Arab, or Australian aboriginal.[1] " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_drop_rule http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biracial http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadroon http://onedroprule.org/forum-2.html Two people of direct European descent would have children that exhibit a combination of said features. Would they have a child that doesn't? No. You are stating the obvious. You will not be Scottish and have Japanese or Nigerian children. But if you have a predominately white phenotype (this is exceedingly common) as a person of mixed ancestry, society would dictate a "white" person having children of different background, though, this would not be the case. It just goes to show you how superficial our society that if a child shows difference in scarcely observable phenotype than his/her parent's, that it is somehow on the news. -- Posted by kidd rune at 10:28 pm on Aug. 29, 2008 You don't have to hate them to be racist. You just have to show disdain in a manner that befits inequality. Hate is hard to accurately gauge and not many will admit to hating someone unless a positive can be gleaned from saying so. Avoiding someone on the street because of their background is RACIST. Asking to your McDonald's order to be taken by another simply because of their background is RACIST. Throwing rocks at people because they are of a different background is racist. These beliefs befit racial hate and/or inequality. It is OK to not like someone because of the content of w ho they are, but not liking them for who they are as a person is racist if it involves racially motivated intentions. Yet, any of these actions can be done without actively saying you believe one is inferior or admitting to hating said person based on background. Actions speak louder than tight-lipped words. Unless someone tries one of these acts, they aren't racist. Avoiding Negroes doesn't imply that you hate or see them as inferior, maybe you would rather stay with your race because you feel more comfortable with them, not because you find them superior or because you like them more. The one-drop rule doesn't biologically exist, so the children would be of mixed race ancestry. " The one-drop rule is a historical colloquial term in the United States that holds that a person with any trace of African ancestry is considered black unless having an alternative non-white ancestry which he or she can claim, such as Native American, Asian, Arab, or Australian aboriginal.[1] " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_drop_rule http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biracial http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadroon http://onedroprule.org/forum-2.html Two people of direct European descent would have children that exhibit a combination of said features. Would they have a child that doesn't? No. You are stating the obvious. You will not be Scottish and have Japanese or Nigerian children. But if you have a predominately white phenotype (this is exceedingly common) as a person of mixed ancestry, society would dictate a "white" person having children of different background, though, this would not be the case. It just goes to show you how superficial our society that if a child shows difference in scarcely observable phenotype than his/her parent's, that it is somehow on the news. Someone said "it's very possible for a white couple to have a black child" This, in all sense, is impossible. That's all I said. If the whites had ANY negro genes, they wouldn't be called Negroes. If they had no negro genes, they couldn't have a Negro child. -- Posted by Takinam at 2:14 am on Aug. 30, 2008 @kidd_rune, We were on different pages pertaining to the white/black child issue. I assumed we were referring to White-Americans. And enough of your Negro gene bullshit. If it were true and race was such a pertinent reality. Then why is it that certain white populations don't produce features exclusive to other populations? Why aren't there many Sicilian redhead children? Are these Anglo genes? What are genes that all humans share? I think, what you've been doing is recognizing that there is not a total homogeneity between selective peoples (there cannot be, climate adaption) and labeling whatever specific genes each people gained and retained during climate adaption (an example would be skin colour) as negro, white, etc. These things are simply climate adaptions. They are no more and no less than that. Such as misuse of relevant science in an effort to further an agenda is pathetic. Can you prove that any normal human feature isn't superficial? They are not representative of the tremendous gap that you seem to exemplify when discussing whites and blacks and are superficial. The only basis for which racists usually have against this superficiality debate is the IQ issue. And the Flynn effect accounts for that. --- The Definition of Racism; Prejudice or discrimination based on an individual's race; can be expressed individually or through institutional policies or practices. ... That portion of the definition proves my point. If you express prejudice or discrimination, an example would be excluding someone of perceived racial difference from a group on the basis of race and another would be the showcasing of prejudice by moving to the other side of the sidewalk when faced with a skewed vision of someone of another background, then you are guilty of racism and thus, a racist. Do you see any contention?   All of my stated examples are racist as defined by this and other definitions of racism. This means that the OP is racist. www.hsp.org/default.aspx --- Racism 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. 2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination. 3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races. A policy or system of government based on fostering a doctrine of discrimination and exclusion based on perceived difference in race. That sounds oddly like the white nationalist white nation agenda. Wait, that is the white nation agenda. Surprise, surprise! You support a racist agenda! Hatred or intolerance (disdain) of another race. Hmm. Lets see. Showcasing intolerance towards another race. Hmm. That makes you racist again. Or are you in contention that you can't stand minorities and want an all-white nation? I am surprised I didn't just do research on racism. I was sure your conjecture wasn't the true definition, I was just too lazy to actually find anything. --- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism google.com define: racism -- Posted by Nimzo at 4:23 am on Aug. 30, 2008 I think its fair enough actually and as usual there's a fantastic evolutionary explanation for it. Go read up on sexual selection. Probably the main reason we have different races today is sexual selection. The females from each 'group' choose guys who they like the look of, their kids then inherit not only the preferred genes from their father but they also inherit the mothers preferences for what traits they look for in a mate. What this amounts to is that if you have separate populations then those populations are going to gradually change based on what physical traits the females prefer to look for in their mates, since the females preferences are also inherited the process is self perpetuating. So really its only natural that the OP would prefer to date guys from her own race. Just thought i would make an interesting side note; as an interracial child myself its kind of funny how people always recognise my dad as my dad when they see him (he's sri lankan), but have a hard time seeing any resemblance between me and my mum. I have a feeling that this could be because we are hardwired to notice skin color before any other characteristics. -- Posted by kidd rune at 9:03 am on Aug. 30, 2008 We were on different pages pertaining to the white/black child issue. I assumed we were referring to White-Americans. And enough of your Negro gene bullshit. If it were true and race was such a pertinent reality. Then why is it that certain white populations don't produce features exclusive to other populations? Why aren't there many Sicilian redhead children? Are these Anglo genes? Whites can have any color hair that exists, and any color eyes that exist. Italy has gone through numerous Moorish invasions, they are not the epitome of whites. What are genes that all humans share? I think, what you've been doing is recognizing that there is not a total homogeneity between selective peoples (there cannot be, climate adaption) and labeling whatever specific genes each people gained and retained during climate adaption (an example would be skin colour) as negro, white, etc. These things are simply climate adaptions. They are no more and no less than that. Such as misuse of relevant science in an effort to further an agenda is pathetic. Can you prove that any normal human feature isn't superficial? What about bone structure, thought process, and all of the other traits? The Definition of Racism; Prejudice or discrimination based on an individual's race; can be expressed individually or through institutional policies or practices. ... That portion of the definition proves my point. If you express prejudice or discrimination, an example would be excluding someone of perceived racial difference from a group on the basis of race and another would be the showcasing of prejudice by moving to the other side of the sidewalk when faced with a skewed vision of someone of another background, then you are guilty of racism and thus, a racist. Do you see any contention?   All of my stated examples are racist as defined by this and other definitions of racism. This means that the OP is racist. http://www.hsp.org/default.aspx Look: those silly definitions you give were created just do disprove race. Racism is only hatred/intolerance to another race and/or thinking one race is superior. I think an all-white nation should exist to COMBAT racism and to keep white genes alive. Preservation is racism? I didn't know this! -- Posted by The Artful Dodger at 9:06 am on Aug. 30, 2008 And all white nation doesn't seem like it would combat anything racism-wise. To me, it sounds more like running away or avoiding even the possibility for racism. -- Posted by kidd rune at 9:07 am on Aug. 30, 2008 Quote: from The Artful Dodger at 9:06 am on Aug. 30, 2008 And all white nation doesn't seem like it would combat anything racism-wise. To me, it sounds more like running away or avoiding even the possibility for racism. Racism arises from being exposed to other races. Obama is trying to get votes from the mostly white states, seeing as they are 'less likely to be racist' because they have no reason to be. Pages: 1 2  Next