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-- Posted by VirtusInternus at 3:50 am on Sep. 4, 2008

it's true.
don't believe me then talk to my dealer


-- Posted by return2me at 3:51 am on Sep. 4, 2008

sounds like someones on...

oh, wait...


-- Posted by xBeautifulTragedyx at 3:51 am on Sep. 4, 2008

stfu.


-- Posted by Bearsy at 3:51 am on Sep. 4, 2008

Quote: from return2me at 3:51 am on Sep. 4, 2008


sounds like someones on...

oh, wait...


hehe


-- Posted by Scarlet Tears at 3:52 am on Sep. 4, 2008

Teeeheee
I mini lol'd


-- Posted by jamesish at 3:54 am on Sep. 4, 2008

proof?


-- Posted by VirtusInternus at 3:55 am on Sep. 4, 2008

Quote: from xBeautifulTragedyx at 10:51 pm on Sep. 4, 2008


stfu.

you shut the fuck up asshat
me and my dealer are gonna stake out your ass ho


-- Posted by i r sekz at 7:34 am on Sep. 4, 2008

So was Bush and probably a few other presidents.


-- Posted by austin s23 at 10:21 am on Sep. 4, 2008

thats fucking stupid.


-- Posted by Rikk at 11:51 am on Sep. 4, 2008

Well he did smoke weed and did a few lines, I don't know about addiction though.


-- Posted by Wilder at 12:09 pm on Sep. 4, 2008

Tried coke =/= addicted to coke (especially considering how cigs are more addictive than cocaine and coke addictions generally take at least a decade).

Fuck up less please?


-- Posted by wallopwoop at 12:31 pm on Sep. 4, 2008

Quote: from VirtusInternus at 3:50 am on Sep. 4, 2008


it's true.
don't believe me then talk to my dealer


Obamapublicly admitted to his cocaine use in his book. This is widely known. And as was stated, Bush did coke too... as well as knock up prostitutes.


-- Posted by VirtusInternus at 2:08 am on Sep. 5, 2008

Quote: from austin s23 at 5:21 am on Sep. 5, 2008


thats fucking stupid.

My source=CNN and Fox.

and, oh Wilder the great one (sarcasm), they referred to him as an ADDICT, not a one of user so lets see your mouth start the fuck up in say, oh 1 second  


-- Posted by Rikk at 8:26 am on Sep. 5, 2008

Quote: from Wilder at 3:09 pm on Sep. 4, 2008


Tried coke =/= addicted to coke (especially considering how cigs are more addictive than cocaine and coke addictions generally take at least a decade).

Fuck up less please?


Cigarettes are nowhere near as addictive as cocaine. Cocaine addiction is pretty quick, cigarettes take years.


-- Posted by Wilder at 9:26 am on Sep. 5, 2008

Quote: from VirtusInternus at 3:08 am on Sep. 5, 2008


Quote: from austin s23 at 5:21 am on Sep. 5, 2008

thats fucking stupid.

My source=CNN and Fox.

and, oh Wilder the great one (sarcasm), they referred to him as an ADDICT, not a one of user so lets see your mouth start the fuck up in say, oh 1 second


I'm not really interested in what you say Fox said about Barack. The amount of cocaine that he did is fairly well-established and uncontested, and it's not enough for him to have been an addict.


Cigarettes are nowhere near as addictive as cocaine. Cocaine addiction is pretty quick, cigarettes take years.

Unfortunately I don't have my AP Psych book that I got the cigs fact from; you can check wikipedia under "cocaine addiction" to see how most take over a decade to develop, however.


-- Posted by Rikk at 9:37 am on Sep. 5, 2008

Seems like you haven't tried coke. I don't have wikipedia to back me up, I have my friends.

If you snort often enough to get addicted it won't happen in 10 years, in fact you probably won't live long enough.


-- Posted by Wilder at 9:44 am on Sep. 5, 2008

Quote: from Rikk at 10:37 am on Sep. 5, 2008


Seems like you haven't tried coke. I don't have wikipedia to back me up, I have my friends.

If you snort often enough to get addicted it won't happen in 10 years, in fact you probably won't live long enough.


I've snorted plenty of coke, as have most of the people I know. Numbers are numbers, and cocaine dependence generally takes a very long time to form. I understand that people can get addicted much faster than this, but those are anecdotal accounts.

The study itself discusses how previous studies had suggested a more "explosive" addiction potential where the first two years were the highest risk, and then goes into various reasons why their findings might be different. Definitely worth the read.


-- Posted by Rikk at 9:51 am on Sep. 5, 2008

Quote: from Wilder at 12:44 pm on Sep. 5, 2008


Quote: from Rikk at 10:37 am on Sep. 5, 2008

Seems like you haven't tried coke. I don't have wikipedia to back me up, I have my friends.  

 If you snort often enough to get addicted it won't happen in 10 years, in fact you probably won't live long enough.


I've snorted plenty of coke, as have most of the people I know. Numbers are numbers, and cocaine dependence generally takes a very long time to form. I understand that people can get addicted much faster than this, but those are anecdotal accounts.

The study itself discusses how previous studies had suggested a more "explosive" addiction potential where the first two years were the highest risk, and then goes into various reasons why their findings might be different. Definitely worth the read.


I guess it all really depends on how often and how much you snort, I can hardly believe that someone who does cocaine on a regular basis (say three times a week at the most) can not be addicted after a year of use, not mentioning the risks you take and situations you go through just for more coke, 10 years of coke seems long enough to kill somebody.

Now if you use it like once a month you can go a lifetime without getting addicted.


-- Posted by Wilder at 9:57 am on Sep. 5, 2008

Quote: from Rikk at 10:51 am on Sep. 5, 2008


Quote: from Wilder at 12:44 pm on Sep. 5, 2008

Quote: from Rikk at 10:37 am on Sep. 5, 2008

Seems like you haven't tried coke. I don't have wikipedia to back me up, I have my friends.

  If you snort often enough to get addicted it won't happen in 10 years, in fact you probably won't live long enough.


 

 I've snorted plenty of coke, as have most of the people I know. Numbers are numbers, and cocaine dependence generally takes a very long time to form. I understand that people can get addicted much faster than this, but those are anecdotal accounts.  

 The study itself discusses how previous studies had suggested a more "explosive" addiction potential where the first two years were the highest risk, and then goes into various reasons why their findings might be different. Definitely worth the read.


I guess it all really depends on how often and how much you snort, I can hardly believe that someone who does cocaine on a regular basis (say three times a week at the most) can not be addicted after a year of use, not mentioning the risks you take and situations you go through just for more coke, 10 years of coke seems long enough to kill somebody.

Now if you use it like once a month you can go a lifetime without getting addicted.


That's probably part of the reason that whatever source my textbook was using came to its conclusion--it's a lot more common for new smokers to smoke a lot of cigs every week than it is for someone to snort tons of coke every week. We use nicotine in a way that is more prone to addiction.


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