-- Posted by AMember at 6:36 am on Sep. 6, 2008 So I realised some people from this forum went of a "raid spree" and tried to disrupt the community of a forum I attend and be all smart people with insults to everyone. May I ask why and why are the staff on this forum allowing this to happen? -- Posted by Eos at 6:37 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Because they cant keep up? -- Posted by AMember at 6:39 am on Sep. 6, 2008 You mean the staff can't keep up? -- Posted by Eos at 6:40 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Quote: from AMember at 2:39 pm on Sep. 6, 2008 You mean the staff can't keep up? Yes, i guess so. -- Posted by LightThisCity at 6:40 am on Sep. 6, 2008 You really had to bring up this fucking topic, didnt you? -- Posted by AMember at 6:41 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Suppose so but i don't it's right though. because I can understand the whole thing about a certain population hates the forum I attend and a population from that forum hates this forum. But no one is doing anyone any favours if they raid the forums. It just makes you look bad and I don't intend to do what they did because I am actually old and mature enough to sort things out or atleast figure out why they did it; with a reasonable and mature explanation. -- Posted by AMember at 6:43 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Quote: from LightThisCity at 6:40 am on Sep. 6, 2008 You really had to bring up this fucking topic, didnt you? Yes I did, but I did it with a mature on non insulting manner. There is no need to swear nor get a tantrum over it. It's not my fault members of this forum wanted to raid another forum. I'm just merely asking why and what's the point. -- Posted by barnabas at 6:47 am on Sep. 6, 2008 because we cannot control livewire members behavior off livewire. when they mention it here the moderating staff is quick to mention that behavior like that is rude and unnacceptable, but we have no way of knowing what people do when they are logged on here. it is an internet site, not the gestapo. -- Posted by AMember at 6:53 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Quote: from barnabas at 6:47 am on Sep. 6, 2008 because we cannot control livewire members behavior off livewire. when they mention it here the moderating staff is quick to mention that behavior like that is rude and unnacceptable, but we have no way of knowing what people do when they are logged on here. it is an internet site, not the gestapo. I suppose you have a point about that but wouldn't the members here get some sort of punishment? I mean if a staff member is willing to co-operate with me and I can give them some infomation that might help them find the members on here because with all due respect I don't and never will abuse this forum over some certain members abusing the forum I'm on. I personal think it's pointless what they did and they should deserve some sort of punishment. I'd rather sort this our with a mature manner than what they did anyway. -- Posted by barnabas at 7:13 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Quote: from AMember at 8:53 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Quote: from barnabas at 6:47 am on Sep. 6, 2008 because we cannot control livewire members behavior off livewire.    when they mention it here the moderating staff is quick to mention that behavior like that is rude and unnacceptable, but we have no way of knowing what people do when they are logged on here. it is an internet site, not the gestapo. I suppose you have a point about that but wouldn't the members here get some sort of punishment? I mean if a staff member is willing to co-operate with me and I can give them some infomation that might help them find the members on here because with all due respect I don't and never will abuse this forum over some certain members abusing the forum I'm on. I personal think it's pointless what they did and they should deserve some sort of punishment. I'd rather sort this our with a mature manner than what they did anyway. we cannot punish people for things they do offsite. we are not their parents nor are we the police. If it happens outside of livewire we have no control. -- Posted by audrey820 at 7:19 am on Sep. 6, 2008 It's a back and forth thing that we have no control over. Some of your members come here. It gets these guys riled up and they head over there. I have no idea who started it and I quite frankly don't care. There's no need to point fingers and track down who started it.   As someone stated, we can't control what happens off of LW. We moderate LW, not the lives of members. We don't control them.   When the topic comes up, it's generally discouraged by a few mods. But that's as much as we can do. We try not to censor so much here. Unfortunately, the members here get a lot of amusement out of the fact that you guys ban easily and for no reason. It's a trend that will pass. I'm a moderator here and you're welcome to message me to discuss this further if you would like. -- Posted by AMember at 7:26 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Quote: from audrey820 at 7:19 am on Sep. 6, 2008 It's a back and forth thing that we have no control over. Some of your members come here. It gets these guys riled up and they head over there. I have no idea who started it and I quite frankly don't care. There's no need to point fingers and track down who started it. As someone stated, we can't control what happens off of LW. We moderate LW, not the lives of members. We don't control them. When the topic comes up, it's generally discouraged by a few mods. But that's as much as we can do. We try not to censor so much here. Unfortunately, the members here get a lot of amusement out of the fact that you guys ban easily and for no reason. It's a trend that will pass. I'm a moderator here and you're welcome to message me to discuss this further if you would like. Fair enough, I guess I can't do anything about it. hence why they do this because they get away with it. And there's reasons why they get banned. I'm sure if someone on this forum left a profile message saying... "You sure are ugly as fuck" Or say someone insulted a modertor on here they would get punished in how ever the rules are here on this forum. We do the same, they gave us reasons to ban them. We don't tolerate it and I'm sure you don't either. If it does continue then I guess I will personally revert to instant banning, I don't like allowing people to abuse on the forum I moderate. I'll let people from this forum on anytime but if all they want to do is cause drama and abuse members, staff and the forum itself what's the point having them there. So they shouldn't complain. But fair enough. I thank all that have been positive about this matter with me, this is how communities should act together. It's how people make friends. -- Posted by barnabas at 7:35 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Quote: from AMember at 9:26 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Quote: from audrey820 at 7:19 am on Sep. 6, 2008 It's a back and forth thing that we have no control over.    Some of your members come here. It gets these guys riled up and they head over there. I have no idea who started it and I quite frankly don't care. There's no need to point fingers and track down who started it.      As someone stated, we can't control what happens off of LW. We moderate LW, not the lives of members. We don't control them.      When the topic comes up, it's generally discouraged by a few mods. But that's as much as we can do. We try not to censor so much here.    Unfortunately, the members here get a lot of amusement out of the fact that you guys ban easily and for no reason. It's a trend that will pass.    I'm a moderator here and you're welcome to message me to discuss this further if you would like. Fair enough, I guess I can't do anything about it. hence why they do this because they get away with it. And there's reasons why they get banned. I'm sure if someone on this forum left a profile message saying... "You sure are ugly as fuck"   Or say someone insulted a modertor on here they would get punished in how ever the rules are here on this forum. We do the same, they gave us reasons to ban them. We don't tolerate it and I'm sure you don't either. If it does continue then I guess I will personally revert to instant banning, I don't like allowing people to abuse on the forum I moderate. I'll let people from this forum on anytime but if all they want to do is cause drama and abuse members, staff and the forum itself what's the point having them there. So they shouldn't complain. But fair enough. I thank all that have been positive about this matter with me, this is how communities should act together. It's how people make friends. you should go check out our member to mod forum. It is full of people saying all sorts of terrible things to mods. We believe in freedom of expression here. also, our pictures/profiles have a delete button. if a person doesnt like the comment someone leaves, tehy can delete it. It is only taken to the moderators if it is a repeat process, ie harrassment of one particular member. our rules are really very lax here. -- Posted by audrey820 at 7:37 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Well no. Members here constantly insult moderators and we laugh it off instead of trying to cover it up. There are pretty much constantly topics insulting us, we leave them. Sometimes they have valid points. If they don't, we still like to let them vent. To be a mod, you have to have tough skin. I don't think anyone has ever been banned for harassing a mod unless it was an account created just to troll. http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yyaaisi-support-a.html http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yaipity-support-a.html See? And we don't instantly ban for people saying rude things. And definitely not for swearing. We may message the member first. Then warn them. We ban as a last resort, not because we can. Oh yeah. It's funny that you ban instantly for swearing but then a member here posted a link to a profile that had a porn image. JUST SAYING! I do have to say thanks. I think you guys have given the members a new appreciation for the way we moderate here. :p Hopefully it dies down. Cause dealing with your teenhut spammers doesn't bring joy to our lives either. -- Posted by AMember at 7:44 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Give me info on the TH spammers and I'm sure I'll do something as the for the porn thing I like to mention we got that as well. But overall it's pissing annoying, you seem more relaxed. And on top of it don't worry about "hiding" thing because I had a poll against me all on false claims. We tolerate to a certain manner but if the users intentions is to just abuse then we just ban them. What's the point I say. -- Posted by audrey820 at 7:51 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Well, we didn't get porn here. Someone linked to a profile of one of your moderators and there was a huge porn picture. It was shocking, really. We like to give people chances here. Some of our best moderators originally joined to troll or spam. Then the site grew on them and they changed. Became support leaders and very active community members. Then became moderators and do excellent work for the team. People can change if you give them a chance instead of banning at the first sign of trouble. That's how we see it anyways. I'd rather not name names of your members. If we aren't punishing our members, it's hypocritical of me to help you punish people there. -- Posted by AMember at 7:56 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Fair enough. Atleast there was a decent discussion about this. I dread to think what happened if the people who attempted to raid our site were on now. -- Posted by audrey820 at 7:58 am on Sep. 6, 2008 At least one of them is on. They aren't always jerks, really. As I said, your policy of banning almost immediately and for no reason amuses them. I think it's a challenge to see how little they can do and still get banned. -- Posted by Killtyronedead at 8:05 am on Sep. 6, 2008 lulz.  TeenHuts mods suck so much worse than ours. Does anyone remember that thread I made telling David Jones to remove his head from his ass? -- Posted by Killtyronedead at 8:07 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Quote: from barnabas at 10:35 am on Sep. 6, 2008 our rules are really very lax here. Hell, I wouldn't want it any other way. Oh...wait...I'd love to tell people to kill themselves. -- Posted by audrey820 at 8:16 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Quote: from Killtyronedead at 11:07 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Quote: from barnabas at 10:35 am on Sep. 6, 2008 our rules are really very lax here. Hell, I wouldn't want it any other way. Oh...wait...I'd love to tell people to kill themselves. Don't get banned again, Ty.   I'd miss you. I need a Red Sox buddyyyy -- Posted by Killtyronedead at 8:17 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Quote: from audrey820 at 11:16 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Quote: from Killtyronedead at 11:07 am on Sep. 6, 2008 Quote: from barnabas at 10:35 am on Sep. 6, 2008 our rules are really very lax here.    Hell, I wouldn't want it any other way.    Oh...wait...I'd love to tell people to kill themselves. Don't get banned again, Ty.   I'd miss you. I need a Red Sox buddyyyy I won't get banned, again.  I wish I could say that to people especially in TDEI but I know I can't because it'll get me banz0red and that would make us all very sad. -- Posted by barnabas at 10:56 am on Sep. 6, 2008 agreed. v. sad indeed.