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-- Posted by dragonking at 7:33 am on Sep. 6, 2008

Out of the two evils, Obama or McCain I have chosen to be more for McCain. A big reason is taxes. On Obama's website it says he will lower income taxes, when he actually will raise them in another area. So that's like giving you money with one hand and taking it back with his other. He would raise taxes on investments. That's really bad because a lot of older people and some younger need that income to pay there bills since they don't make enough at their job or to be able to be retired. There would be a lot more unemployment if people who would be retired are looking for jobs to survive while people of other ages need them too.

I sort of can't believe I am more for McCain but I am.  What about you?


-- Posted by robdude at 7:34 am on Sep. 6, 2008

I like McCain too, his experience is underrated


-- Posted by Meals on wheels at 7:36 am on Sep. 6, 2008

obama is better


-- Posted by playboyfreak456 at 7:39 am on Sep. 6, 2008

I think in times like this, we need Obama. Mainly because of the war and the state of our economy.


-- Posted by Mattie17 at 7:39 am on Sep. 6, 2008

Quote: from Meals on wheels at 3:36 pm on Sep. 6, 2008


obama is better
^this


-- Posted by xkisskiss90 at 7:40 am on Sep. 6, 2008

McCain, I agree that his experience is underrated.  Many people I know do not know anything about Obama's policies or stance on issues.  They are just voting for him because they "like him." But how can you genuinely like someone and consider voting for them when you dont know anything about them?


-- Posted by Mattie17 at 7:40 am on Sep. 6, 2008

Quote: from Meals on wheels at 3:36 pm on Sep. 6, 2008


obama is better
^this


-- Posted by dragonking at 7:44 am on Sep. 6, 2008

Quote: from playboyfreak456 at 10:39 am on Sep. 6, 2008


I think in times like this, we need Obama. Mainly because of the war and the state of our economy.

America needs to change and be socialist not with a democrat or republican president.  That would really help to end the wars and the bad economy.


-- Posted by breannafhchick06 at 7:54 am on Sep. 6, 2008

i think that mcCain can do a better job fixing our economy


-- Posted by playboyfreak456 at 8:13 am on Sep. 6, 2008

Quote: from dragonking at 10:44 am on Sep. 6, 2008


Quote: from playboyfreak456 at 10:39 am on Sep. 6, 2008

I think in times like this, we need Obama. Mainly because of the war and the state of our economy.

America needs to change and be socialist not with a democrat or republican president. That would really help to end the wars and the bad economy.


a.) No, we don't. b.) Even if it would work, it would never happen. c.) The closest thing you can get to ending the war and the bad economy is Obama. McCain won't even acknowledge that the economy is bad and he says he "it doesn't matter if we stay in Iraq for 10,000 year."


-- Posted by MushroomSatsujin at 8:26 am on Sep. 6, 2008

Undecided. Im kinda leaning to Obama because McCain=draft


-- Posted by Elm at 8:31 am on Sep. 6, 2008

Quote: from dragonking at 7:33 am on Sep. 6, 2008


Out of the two evils, Obama or McCain I have chosen to be more for McCain.  A big reason is taxes.  On Obama's website it says he will lower income taxes, when he actually will raise them in another area.  So that's like giving you money with one hand and taking it back with his other.  He would raise taxes on investments.  That's really bad because a lot of older people and some younger need that income to pay there bills since they don't make enough at their job or to be able to be retired.  There would be a lot more unemployment if people who would be retired are looking for jobs to survive while people of other ages need them too.

I sort of can't believe I am more for McCain but I am. What about you?


They are so close on so many issues it isn't funny.  McCain wants a standard 35% tax on the highest bracket and Obama wants a 39.5.  Is that really the choice American's face a freaking 4% difference?

Yeah Obama's economic policies are duplicitous saying increased taxes on the produces and investors (and today almost everyone invests) is simply going to move jobs and investments out of the nation - all the while hes shifting taxation burdens so that the taxes on the poor are going to go up (along with everyone else's) it just won't be your payroll tax.


-- Posted by Elm at 8:33 am on Sep. 6, 2008

Quote: from playboyfreak456 at 8:13 am on Sep. 6, 2008


Quote: from dragonking at 10:44 am on Sep. 6, 2008

Quote: from playboyfreak456 at 10:39 am on Sep. 6, 2008

I think in times like this, we need Obama. Mainly because of the war and the state of our economy.
 

 America needs to change and be socialist not with a democrat or republican president.  That would really help to end the wars and the bad economy.


a.) No, we don't. b.) Even if it would work, it would never happen. c.) The closest thing you can get to ending the war and the bad economy is Obama. McCain won't even acknowledge that the economy is bad and he says he "it doesn't matter if we stay in Iraq for 10,000 year."

How do you expect increased tax burdens on producers will encourage them to produce within the nation instead of move outside the nation where the tax burden will be less?

How do you expect individuals to save via investment in us businesses if after risking their money (because you can and will lose money in the stock market) they are taxed at 20% additional to income tax IF they happen to make any money?

Obama doesn't know anything about the economy.  He thinks he can force multinationals to stay in the US - hes dreaming thats why they are called MULTI national.


-- Posted by Neodymie at 12:46 pm on Sep. 6, 2008


How do you expect individuals to save via investment in us businesses if after risking their money (because you can and will lose money in the stock market) they are taxed at 20% additional to income tax IF they happen to make any money?

Wow really? 20% more? That's ridiculous!


-- Posted by jazzysolovely at 8:29 am on Sep. 7, 2008

McCain just cares about the war. I highly doubt that he's gonna worry about the economy if he gets elected. All he wants 2 go is b in the Middle East.


-- Posted by holysaiyan1 at 11:52 am on Sep. 7, 2008

Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 11:26 am on Sep. 6, 2008


Undecided. Im kinda leaning to Obama because McCain=draft

Please provide citations for your claim, because all the sources I can find provide evidence to the contrary.

Ironically, Jack Murtha and Charles Rangel have both called for bringing back the draft.  Both are prominent Democrats, not Republicans.


-- Posted by Neodymie at 5:40 pm on Sep. 7, 2008

Quote: from jazzysolovely at 8:29 am on Sep. 7, 2008


McCain just cares about the war. I highly doubt that he's gonna worry about the economy if he gets elected. All he wants 2 go is b in the Middle East.

First of all Obama wants to keep a lot of troops in Iraq after his "withdrawal" and wants to continue military operations there.

Second he will just move our troops to Afghanistan or Pakistan which are both in the middle east last time I checked.

Third most of the problems we are having with the economy are due to energy problems. Obama's energy plan is fail therefor economy will die.


-- Posted by jakelong at 6:03 pm on Sep. 7, 2008

how do you know his energy is fail?


-- Posted by Neodymie at 6:12 pm on Sep. 7, 2008

Quote: from jakelong at 6:03 pm on Sep. 7, 2008


how do you know his energy is fail?

Well in a couple weeks it might be better seeing as how it changes constantly.


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