Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by snowcone200 at 8:35 am on Sep. 9, 2008 How do you feel when you hear that phrase? I heard it from a movie and it spoke volumes to me. I think I gave up on faith a while ago. -- Posted by xJosex at 8:37 am on Sep. 9, 2008 I was stunned... Like tis.................. -- Posted by King Kong at 8:37 am on Sep. 9, 2008 I think it's stupid -- Posted by FurryPanther at 8:37 am on Sep. 9, 2008 God has allowed man to have free will, and that is what people have done with it. Evil acts in no way disprove God... FP -- Posted by King Kong at 8:37 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 4:37 pm on Sep. 9, 2008 God has allowed man to have free will, and that is what people have done with it. Evil acts in no way disprove God... FP agreed -- Posted by The Oath at 8:37 am on Sep. 9, 2008 It's an event that was kind of irrelevant to God's existence, but whatever floats your boat. More so, I think the quote speaks of emotion. -- Posted by disco pig at 8:38 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Ok how I feel about this: in terms of God, suffering exists as a means to test his subjects - to see if they remain a follower even through trials and tribulation. It is easy to say "I believe in God" when living in wealth but it takes true belief to do so when living in a shithole. -- Posted by Kankalicious at 8:39 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:37 am on Sep. 9, 2008 God has allowed man to have free will, and that is what people have done with it. Evil acts in no way disprove God... FP Precisely. -- Posted by marshmellowman at 8:39 am on Sep. 9, 2008 The same thing that I think when people say if wars have occurred then God cannot exist. Whilst I may not believe in God, things like that are certainly no indication to disprove the existence of God. People took it upon themselves to do evil actions, it wasn't God that did them. Whilst God's intention might have been for good to allow man to do what they want, free will will always bring with it good and bad. -- Posted by Mattie17 at 8:39 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 4:37 pm on Sep. 9, 2008 God has allowed man to have free will, and that is what people have done with it. Evil acts in no way disprove God... FP agree -- Posted by endoftheline at 8:40 am on Sep. 9, 2008 I personally don't believe in God anyways, but I don't think that's necessarily true. Life's a trial, right? That which doesn't destroy your faith makes it stronger? -- Posted by osmoticdespair at 8:40 am on Sep. 9, 2008 I always find it odd. It is not like Auschwitz was the first terrible thing to have happened. -- Posted by FurryPanther at 8:40 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from osmoticdespair at 9:40 am on Sep. 9, 2008 I always find it odd. It is not like Auschwitz was the first terrible thing to have happened. Agreed. Salem Witch Trials, anyone? FP -- Posted by Elm at 8:40 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from snowcone200 at 8:35 am on Sep. 9, 2008 How do you feel when you hear that phrase? I heard it from a movie and it spoke volumes to me. I think I gave up on faith a while ago.     God gave us free will. We had but two options. Be tantamount slaves to God and dutifully obey every order or be our own creatures with decision making skills. Auschwitz exists because of the free will of humans not because of the lack of caring that God has towards us. -- Posted by ibanez at 8:43 am on Sep. 9, 2008 ''the way to heaven is through suffering''. -- Posted by justin1990rm at 8:47 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:37 am on Sep. 9, 2008 God has allowed man to have free will, and that is what people have done with it. Evil acts in no way disprove God... FP i think god is an asshole though, he knew by giving free will he would be screwing alot of people over, and in  a way its his fault; we are like his naughty children -- Posted by osmoticdespair at 8:47 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from justin1990rm at 4:47 pm on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:37 am on Sep. 9, 2008 God has allowed man to have free will, and that is what people have done with it. Evil acts in no way disprove God...    FP i think god is an asshole though, he knew by giving free will he would be screwing alot of people over, and in a way its his fault; we are like his naughty children You'd rather not have free will? -- Posted by FurryPanther at 8:48 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from justin1990rm at 9:47 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:37 am on Sep. 9, 2008 God has allowed man to have free will, and that is what people have done with it. Evil acts in no way disprove God...    FP i think god is an asshole though, he knew by giving free will he would be screwing alot of people over, and in a way its his fault; we are like his naughty children And he also know all the good that could come out of it. There were two options: we have free will, and will occasionally abuse it, or we don't, and are the drones of God. Quite frankly, God would be more of an asshole by forcing the latter. FP -- Posted by King Kong at 8:49 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from justin1990rm at 4:47 pm on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:37 am on Sep. 9, 2008 God has allowed man to have free will, and that is what people have done with it. Evil acts in no way disprove God...    FP i think god is an asshole though, he knew by giving free will he would be screwing alot of people over, and in a way its his fault; we are like his naughty children you'd rathe be a robot? -- Posted by justin1990rm at 8:50 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:48 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from justin1990rm at 9:47 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:37 am on Sep. 9, 2008 God has allowed man to have free will, and that is what people have done with it. Evil acts in no way disprove God...   FP    i think god is an asshole though, he knew by giving free will he would be screwing alot of people over, and in  a way its his fault; we are like his naughty children And he also know all the good that could come out of it. There were two options: we have free will, and will occasionally abuse it, or we don't, and are the drones of God. Quite frankly, God would be more of an asshole by forcing the latter. FP if we had no free will, we wouldnt notice it, it would be "feel" the same as living with free will -- Posted by barnabas at 8:51 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 10:40 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from osmoticdespair at 9:40 am on Sep. 9, 2008 I always find it odd. It is not like Auschwitz was the first terrible thing to have happened. Agreed. Salem Witch Trials, anyone? FP or a million other atrocities that have existed since before the recorded history of man? So long as there are men there will be wars-Albert Einstein. Honestly I find this quote much more profound than the one in the OP -- Posted by King Kong at 8:52 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from justin1990rm at 4:50 pm on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:48 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from justin1990rm at 9:47 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:37 am on Sep. 9, 2008 God has allowed man to have free will, and that is what people have done with it. Evil acts in no way disprove God...       FP   i think god is an asshole though, he knew by giving free will he would be screwing alot of people over, and in a way its his fault; we are like his naughty children    And he also know all the good that could come out of it.    There were two options: we have free will, and will occasionally abuse it, or we don't, and are the drones of God.    Quite frankly, God would be more of an asshole by forcing the latter.    FP if we had no free will, we wouldnt notice it, it would be "feel" the same as living with free will but we'd stil be robots -- Posted by Khadgar at 8:54 am on Sep. 9, 2008 I always turned on Free Will, otherwise my sims were boring after about 5 minutes. It was always more fun to watch them go bolting through the hallway to the kitchen to grab 8 bags of chips from the fridge and spend all that money on replenishing their hunger meter by only half when in the same amount of time they could have prepared a meal for the entire family and NOT littered the floor with garbage. Way more fun that way. -- Posted by justin1990rm at 8:55 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from King kong at 8:52 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from justin1990rm at 4:50 pm on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:48 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from justin1990rm at 9:47 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:37 am on Sep. 9, 2008 God has allowed man to have free will, and that is what people have done with it. Evil acts in no way disprove God...    FP       i think god is an asshole though, he knew by giving free will he would be screwing alot of people over, and in  a way its his fault; we are like his naughty children   And he also know all the good that could come out of it.   There were two options: we have free will, and will occasionally abuse it, or we don't, and are the drones of God.   Quite frankly, God would be more of an asshole by forcing the latter.   FP    if we had no free will, we wouldnt notice it, it would be "feel" the same as living with free will but we'd stil be robots happy robots, then he could turn on our free will when we got to heaven? -- Posted by FurryPanther at 8:56 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from justin1990rm at 9:50 am on Sep. 9, 2008 if we had no free will, we wouldnt notice it, it would be "feel" the same as living with free will We would be nothing more than puppets. I don't think that'd feel the same. Besides, God created us to worship and honour him. Those two things, along with faith in his existence, cannot arise if we don't have free will. Our entire existence would be null and void. FP -- Posted by justin1990rm at 9:03 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:56 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from justin1990rm at 9:50 am on Sep. 9, 2008 if we had no free will, we wouldnt notice it, it would be "feel" the same as living with free will We would be nothing more than puppets. I don't think that'd feel the same. Besides, God created us to worship and honour him. Those two things, along with faith in his existence, cannot arise if we don't have free will. Our entire existence would be null and void. FP you would feel the same because its impossible to know whether you have free will or not -- Posted by Khadgar at 9:05 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from justin1990rm at 9:03 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:56 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from justin1990rm at 9:50 am on Sep. 9, 2008 if we had no free will, we wouldnt notice it, it would be "feel" the same as living with free will    We would be nothing more than puppets. I don't think that'd feel the same.    Besides, God created us to worship and honour him. Those two things, along with faith in his existence, cannot arise if we don't have free will. Our entire existence would be null and void.    FP you would feel the same because its impossible to know whether you have free will or not Exactly. One would surmise, "I can go to the store OR stay home. I must have free will." However, it's a catch 22. Whatever you do is what god made you do. Whatever you think is what god made you thought. T'is the illusion of free will, and there is no way to prove or disprove it. -- Posted by King Kong at 9:12 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from justin1990rm at 5:03 pm on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:56 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from justin1990rm at 9:50 am on Sep. 9, 2008 if we had no free will, we wouldnt notice it, it would be "feel" the same as living with free will    We would be nothing more than puppets. I don't think that'd feel the same.    Besides, God created us to worship and honour him. Those two things, along with faith in his existence, cannot arise if we don't have free will. Our entire existence would be null and void.    FP you would feel the same because its impossible to know whether you have free will or not # lok at it this way. if there was no free will. i'd all belive in god -- Posted by jamesish at 9:12 am on Sep. 9, 2008 God gave us free will.  Blame people for the evil that they do.  Not God. -- Posted by exceedinglyrare at 9:38 am on Sep. 9, 2008 Quote: from snowcone200 at 11:35 am on Sep. 9, 2008 How do you feel when you hear that phrase? I heard it from a movie and it spoke volumes to me. I think I gave up on faith a while ago.     I find it amusing, because the existence of a horrible place has nothing to do with the existence, or lack thereof, of any deity. Pages: 1 2  Next