Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by ForeignFishes at 2:53 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Which are you? Do you think it's possible to be both? Would you rather be bored or lonely for the rest of your life? Discuss. -- Posted by ForeignFishes at 2:54 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 It seems that intellectuals are overwhelmingly wolves... Are we all lonely and misunderstood? -- Posted by themagicposition at 2:55 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 I would rather be a wolf, however don't they go around in pacts? So they wouldn't be lonely. -- Posted by ForeignFishes at 2:56 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Quote: from themagicposition at 2:55 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 I would rather be a wolf, however don't they go around in pacts? So they wouldn't be lonely. Way to take the meaning out of the question and rape it in the ass. -- Posted by the real anti christ at 3:05 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 But honestly there are many people who are not misunderstood but who are leaders. Being misunderstood/loner and being a leader and an innovater are not always mutual. You analogy is bad, nobody will ever admit to being a sheep. Even people who are sheep. Everyone wants to be viewed by the world as misunderstood and superiorly intelligent. -- Posted by ForeignFishes at 3:16 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Quote: from the real anti christ at 3:05 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 But honestly there are many people who are not misunderstood but who are leaders. Being misunderstood/loner and being a leader and an innovater are not always mutual. You analogy is bad, nobody will ever admit to being a sheep. Even people who are sheep. Everyone wants to be viewed by the world as misunderstood and superiorly intelligent. So you think there is no validity in the statement? You could pick apart any analogy or any musing until it sounds ridiculous and inapplicable. It takes a powerful, self-aware person to be part of a pack but also their own person equally. Are you certain you can be both a follower and a loner simultaneously? -- Posted by the real anti christ at 3:20 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Quote: from ForeignFishes at 5:16 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Quote: from the real anti christ at 3:05 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 But honestly there are many people who are not misunderstood but who are leaders. Being misunderstood/loner and being a leader and an innovater are not always mutual. You analogy is bad, nobody will ever admit to being a sheep. Even people who are sheep. Everyone wants to be viewed by the world as misunderstood and superiorly intelligent. So you think there is no validity in the statement? You could pick apart any analogy or any musing until it sounds ridiculous and inapplicable. It takes a powerful, self-aware person to be part of a pack but also their own person equally. Are you certain you can be both a follower and a loner simultaneously? Yes I think there is no validity as it is stated. People who are "misunderstood" and loners are almost valueless to society and so by a purely utilitarian view are sheep. If you had said are you a sheep or a leader then it would have made more sense. -- Posted by ForeignFishes at 3:29 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Quote: from the real anti christ at 3:20 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Quote: from ForeignFishes at 5:16 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Quote: from the real anti christ at 3:05 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 But honestly there are many people who are not misunderstood but who are leaders. Being misunderstood/loner and being a leader and an innovater are not always mutual. You analogy is bad, nobody will ever admit to being a sheep. Even people who are sheep. Everyone wants to be viewed by the world as misunderstood and superiorly intelligent.    So you think there is no validity in the statement? You could pick apart any analogy or any musing until it sounds ridiculous and inapplicable. It takes a powerful, self-aware person to be part of a pack but also their own person equally. Are you certain you can be both a follower and a loner simultaneously? Yes I think there is no validity as it is stated. People who are "misunderstood" and loners are almost valueless to society and so by a purely utilitarian view are sheep. If you had said are you a sheep or a leader then it would have made more sense. I think you misunderstand. It's not about leaders nor value to society. It's about loners and followers and personal fulfillment. My question is can you be both an individual and a follower at once? And can you only really be fulfilled if you ARE both? -- Posted by medjai at 4:30 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Wolves are not lonely they are tucking pack animals and extremely social. -- Posted by medjai at 4:32 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Being an individual does not require leadership, you can be an individual and follow someone. -- Posted by ForeignFishes at 4:33 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Quote: from medjai at 4:30 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Wolves are not lonely they are tucking pack animals and extremely social. It's a metaphor. It's not about leadership. It's about loners. -- Posted by medjai at 4:41 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 What is the point in being a loner? I can see zero benefits to having no social network whatsoever. If you need time to yourself you can get it easily without being a loner and you certainly aren't a leader if you're alone. Also you are a lot less likely to be bored in a group. I think it's funny so many here would close to be a loner: -- Posted by ForeignFishes at 4:48 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Quote: from medjai at 4:41 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 What is the point in being a loner? I can see zero benefits to having no social network whatsoever. If you need time to yourself you can get it easily without being a loner and you certainly aren't a leader if you're alone. Also you are a lot less likely to be bored in a group. I think it's funny so many here would close to be a loner: FOR THE LAST TIME IT IS NOT ABOUT LEADERSHIP!! For me actually, I am never bored when I am by myself. If I'm alone, I can do whatever the fuck I want to and usually it ends up being productive or at least entertaining enough to keep me busy. Not to say that I am never entertained when in a group, but what is more awkward than being bored in a big group? It is unproductive. It all depends on the person. Some people just don't thrive in group atmospheres. -- Posted by medjai at 4:52 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 If you are bored in a group find a new group. I'm not bored bymyself either but I get more emotional stimulation in a group and enjoy a group more, to each his own though I was answering from my perspective. -- Posted by schoon at 5:19 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Quote: from ForeignFishes at 5:56 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Quote: from themagicposition at 2:55 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 I would rather be a wolf,    however don't they go around in pacts?    So they wouldn't be lonely. Way to take the meaning out of the question and rape it in the ass. haha but he has a point -- Posted by Radon at 3:39 am on Sep. 22, 2008 You are talking to "intellectuals" on a teen support forum. For many people here, social life is on the internet. The results of this poll are not surprising, especially considering that nobody likes to identify as a sheep. -- Posted by Crazy snake at 8:41 am on Sep. 22, 2008 Sheep get killed by humans and wolves. However, if I was a sheep that was guaranteed not to be killed by a wolf, or a human, or anything... As long as I could have a partner, I'd be happy. I know how lonely feels, and its not good. Though wolves are not really that lonely, as previous members have stated...wolf lol -- Posted by save the world at 3:20 pm on Sep. 26, 2008 Quote: from ForeignFishes at 11:54 pm on Sep. 21, 2008 Are we all lonely and misunderstood? Funnily (or not) enough, you were misunderstood in this thread. And - from what I remember about your other topics - it wasn't the first time either. -- Posted by fezzy at 6:46 pm on Sep. 26, 2008 I'd rather be with friends than be preoccupied. So therefore I'd much rather be a sheep than be a wolf. -- Posted by nikki at 1:52 am on Sep. 27, 2008 What if you're neither? I'm neither bored nor lonely, and I don't see why you'd want to put yourself in either category. -- Posted by noraa at 10:56 am on Oct. 1, 2008 I am a wolf. I don't follow, I lead. I don't have many friends, but I don't do whatever everybody else is doing. Most people in the world are sheep, although they describe themselves as wolves. -- Posted by nikki at 1:43 pm on Oct. 1, 2008 I don't get why you have to be either. What's the point in sitting here and categorising yourself like that? -- Posted by gronk at 10:31 am on Oct. 13, 2008 Boredom and lonliness would have a fairly high correlation co-efficient. But if I had to choose one it would be sheep, its more biblical. I would prefer to have mates and nothing to do then have everything to do but with no one to do it with -- Posted by hithere at 4:48 pm on Oct. 13, 2008 Boredom and loneliness are directly related in my opinion. I don't really understand this model. -- Posted by randomrocks at 5:41 pm on Oct. 13, 2008 I would want to be a sheep.. I don't think that I could handle being lonely for the rest of my life. -- Posted by the seer at 9:00 pm on Oct. 17, 2008 I would be a Sheppard. I'm very observant,  natural born leader and often find myself left with nothing to do but contemplate life and I take great pride in my flock. Sorry if I broke the rules but I don't think I could see myself in either of these positions but rather somewhere in-between. besides one should never deal in absolutes. -- Posted by Scui at 12:04 am on Nov. 22, 2008 I don't understand this at all. I am most definitely a sheep, and I don't see why that is a problem. I follow other people and I let other people take the lead, and I don't find myself getting bored or lonely. In fact, when I'm bored it's most often because I'm lonely. Just because I follow other people doesn't mean that I'm bored - in fact, if I 'leave' something that I'm 'following' it's because I disagree with something that is of fundamental importance to that particular group. That doesn't make me a 'wolf' who is 'lonely' either. Very, very bad analogy. -- Posted by palepalepeach at 6:52 pm on Nov. 26, 2008 I'm not sure I exactly understand the metaphor, but I think I'd rather be a sheep.   I think what I'm keeping most in mind is the fact that wolves must kill and sheep must be killed.  As unpleasant as it would be to be killed, I would rather accept that than live with the grizzly reality of being a killer. -- Posted by TRIPonME at 10:37 pm on Nov. 26, 2008 Black sheep, vegetarian wolf....why does it really matter? For the sake of answering the OP, I'd rather be a wolf: I'd rather CHOOSE to be lonely than to be mindlessly herded around in boredom. -- Posted by medjai at 5:07 pm on Nov. 28, 2008 I am a Shepard. Interestingly enough, the movie "No Country for Old Men" posits this same question. Pages: 1 2  Next