Pages: 1 2 3 4  Next -- Posted by shadow heart at 9:03 am on Sep. 24, 2008 ok so in a school run by a church they dont teach evolution coz they say its wrong in the bible but i think the should have to coz children should be able to make there own minds up about it what do you think? -- Posted by mtllcrckmn at 9:04 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Agreed. -- Posted by Frubeling at 9:04 am on Sep. 24, 2008 I think of pie -- Posted by Candy Man at 9:05 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Whatever you just said is convincing, so yeah, I'll take your side. -- Posted by YamiUnme at 9:05 am on Sep. 24, 2008 I agree. -- Posted by Chiefette at 9:05 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from shadow heart at 9:03 am on Sep. 24, 2008 ok so in a school run by a church they dont teach evolution coz they say its wrong in the bible but i think the should have to coz children should be able to make there own minds up about it what do you think? Then by the same token, creation needs to be taught in public schools.  The road runs both ways. -- Posted by Ad libitum at 9:05 am on Sep. 24, 2008 You know why that is, don't you? Religion and science are two seperate ideas. -- Posted by SpM at 9:06 am on Sep. 24, 2008 The required national curriculum should be more explicit in the matter. -- Posted by SpM at 9:07 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from Glory at 5:05 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 Then by the same token, creation needs to be taught in public schools. The road runs both ways. Creationism is not a scientific theory, and does not belong in a science classroom. Creation myths can be discussed in Religious Education classes (and I do stress discussed rather than taught). -- Posted by switchfoot52 at 9:08 am on Sep. 24, 2008 i went to a christian school and they taught about what evolution was but said that god created us and evolution is just a scientific theory. teaching all the theories should be required. u should look it up. maybe ur school is illegal. my christian school was illegal and still is. they don't teach phonics, reading, or health -- Posted by SpM at 9:10 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from switchfoot52 at 5:08 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 i went to a christian school and they taught about what evolution was but said that god created us and evolution is just a scientific theory. teaching all the theories should be required. u should look it up. maybe ur school is illegal. my christian school was illegal and still is. they don't teach phonics, reading, or health Just a scientific theory? A theory, in science, has massive amounts of evidence to support it. The word has very different meanings in scientific and casual contexts. -- Posted by nikki at 9:12 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from Glory at 5:05 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from shadow heart at 9:03 am on Sep. 24, 2008 ok so in a school run by a church they dont teach evolution coz they say its wrong in the bible but i think the should have to coz children should be able to make there own minds up about it what do you think? Then by the same token, creation needs to be taught in public schools. The road runs both ways. Creationism is already taught in religion lessons. It shouldn't be taught in a science class because it is NOT a scientific theory. But religious schools shouldn't be able to get away with just not teaching evolution. -- Posted by Chiefette at 9:16 am on Sep. 24, 2008 BUT, if evolution is going to be taught as science in the Christian schools, creation should be taught in the public schools.  Both are nothing more than theories.  You cannot say one is over the other without bringing a personal opinion into it.  Public schools don't have religion lessons.  Why should evolution be taught to everyone when creation is only taught to a select few.  Should the students not have the right to decide what to believe AFTER being given both sides of the argument? On the same token, public schools shouldn't be able to get away with just not teaching creation. -- Posted by JoyToy at 9:17 am on Sep. 24, 2008 You're in a school run by a church. If you want to explore evolution and different scientific ideas you shouldn't be in a school run by a church. Also as someone else said, if they taught evolution in a school run by a church they'd have to teach creation in public schools. :] -- Posted by SpM at 9:17 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from Glory at 5:16 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 BUT, if evolution is going to be taught as science in the Christian schools, creation should be taught in the public schools. Both are nothing more than theories. You cannot say one is over the other without bringing a personal opinion into it. Public schools don't have religion lessons. Why should evolution be taught to everyone when creation is only taught to a select few. Should the students not have the right to decide what to believe AFTER being given both sides of the argument? On the same token, public schools shouldn't be able to get away with just not teaching creation. Firstly, schools over here do have Religious Education classes. Secondly, please define "scientific theory". If you get it right you get 50 points.   -- Posted by Enigma of Eternity at 9:18 am on Sep. 24, 2008 I agreez. -- Posted by nikki at 9:18 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from Glory at 5:16 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 Public schools don't have religion lessons. Ah, now, in England, religious education is compulsory - everyone is taught the creation theory, as well as the equivalent stories from the other main religions. On the same token, public schools shouldn't be able to get away with just not teaching creation. I agree with you completely. Both should be taught in both public and church-funded or religious schools. -- Posted by Chiefette at 9:21 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Here, there aren't religious education classes. People are too afraid of being accused of "pushing religion". They have to keep religion out of the schools.  If a teacher hints at creation and parents find out, they can get in a world of trouble.  So much for freedom of religion? Honestly. Evolution isn't a theory A Scientific theory is a testable "model" used for prediction purposes. Something that can be tested and proven. BUT, it in no means implies or give facts. -- Posted by SpM at 9:21 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from Nikki at 5:18 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 I agree with you completely. Both should be taught in both public and church-funded or religious schools. You don't think evolution should be taught, and creationism studied? -- Posted by Dexter Ward at 9:22 am on Sep. 24, 2008 The only problem is a lot of parents send their kids to Church run schools specifically because they don't want their kids learning about evolution. -- Posted by Chiefette at 9:23 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Evolution is no more proven that creation. I went to a religious school in middle school and we were taught both.  They taught us creation as truth, but we also were taught evolution for the sake of finding similarities, and the possibility that both exist. -- Posted by SpM at 9:25 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from Glory at 5:21 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 Honestly. Evolution isn't a theory A Scientific theory is a testable "model" used for prediction purposes. Something that can be tested and proven. BUT, it in no means implies or give facts. In what way is evolution - or rather modern evolutionary synthesis - untestable or unable to make predictions? Suggested reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_theory_and_fact -- Posted by SpM at 9:27 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from Glory at 5:23 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 Evolution is no more proven that creation. Do you deny the existence of distinct dog breeds all descended from a single ancestor? If you don't, you accept that evolution is a fact. -- Posted by Chiefette at 9:28 am on Sep. 24, 2008 That is not evolution.  That is cross breeding or survival of the fittest. No one has proof that there was only one original breed of dog.  A dog will never become a cat.  A cat will never become a fish.  That is changing within a species, not species crossing the borders into another species. I deny that humans came from monkeys. I deny that dogs came from plants. I deny that something came from nothing. -- Posted by SpM at 9:30 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from Glory at 5:28 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 That is not evolution. That is survival of the fittest. No, it is the survival of the chosen. Sausage dogs are not fit. Point is, the inherited traits of these breeds have changed over time through selective breeding, yes? -- Posted by SpM at 9:32 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from Glory at 5:28 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 I deny that humans came from monkeys. I deny that dogs came from plants. I deny that something came from nothing. That is not evolution, that is speciation. Common misconception. Evolution does not require one species to become another. Speciation is a result of evolution, but not a requirement or an intrinsic part of it. As for something coming from nothing, what are we talking about here? The "creation" of the Universe? -- Posted by Chiefette at 9:35 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from SpM at 9:30 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from Glory at 5:28 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 That is not evolution. That is survival of the fittest.   No, it is the survival of the chosen. Sausage dogs are not fit.   Point is, the inherited traits of these breeds have changed over time through selective breeding, yes? "Sausage dogs" are a designer dog that were cross bred by people to make a strange dog. Traits may have been changed over time, but the species has not changed. That would be like saying a change in height and eye color through generations of people is evolution. -- Posted by nikki at 9:36 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from SpM at 5:21 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 You don't think evolution should be taught, and creationism studied? Well, at my school, both were taught. Neither was taught as being proven fact, and that's the way it should be. Neither should be taught as being the whole truth - they both need to be taught for what they are - theories. -- Posted by SpM at 9:36 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from Nikki at 5:36 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 Well, at my school, both were taught. Neither was taught as being proven fact, and that's the way it should be. Neither should be taught as being the whole truth - they both need to be taught for what they are - theories. Please read it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_as_theory_and_fact -- Posted by nikki at 9:37 am on Sep. 24, 2008 Quote: from Glory at 5:28 pm on Sep. 24, 2008 I deny that something came from nothing. So you deny the big bang theory? Pages: 1 2 3 4  Next