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-- Posted by Crazy snake at 6:16 pm on Oct. 3, 2008

I only put it in here, so none of the trolls or stupid people can reply.

So, can someone please explain chaos theory? In a non wikipedia way?


-- Posted by Roy at 6:17 pm on Oct. 3, 2008

why do you even care? chaos theory sucks the big one.

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-- Posted by GdFtherOFCOWS at 6:17 pm on Oct. 3, 2008

Shit Happens, that causes other shit to happen that would have otherwise not.


I punch you in the face, you go to the hospital, and you trip on the sidewalk going in.


You would have never tripped on the sidewalk, had I not punched you in the face.


-- Posted by Killtyronedead at 6:18 pm on Oct. 3, 2008

It's the mathematical belief that anything in the world can cause a reaction somewhere else.

Basically, it's the belief that a butterfly can flap its wings in Kansas and the resulting effect can cause a tsunami somewhere else in the world.

The other name for chaos theory is the "butterfly effect," yes, the same name for that stupid movie with Ashton Kutcher.  The movie is not a proper representation, though.


-- Posted by HeartofJuyoMk2 at 6:19 pm on Oct. 3, 2008

Entropy causes entropy, disturbances cause ripples which can be greater than the initial disturbance, which then cause new ripples and so on...


-- Posted by The Last Magister at 6:19 pm on Oct. 3, 2008

Quote: from Killtyronedead at 6:18 pm on Oct. 3, 2008


It's the mathematical belief that anything in the world can cause a reaction somewhere else.

Basically, it's the belief that a butterfly can flap its wings in Kansas and the resulting effect can cause a tsunami somewhere else in the world.

The other name for chaos theory is the "butterfly effect," yes, the same name for that stupid movie with Ashton Kutcher. The movie is not a proper representation, though.


This basically.


-- Posted by fenrir at 6:30 pm on Oct. 3, 2008


In Mathematics, chaos theory describes the behavior of certain dynamical systems - that is, systems whose state evolves with time - that may exhibit dynamics that are highly sensitive to initial conditions (popularly referred to as the butterfly effect). As a result of this sensitivity, which manifests itself as an exponential growth of perturbations in the initial conditions, the behavior of chaotic systems appears to be random. This happens even though these systems are deterministic, meaning that their future dynamics are fully defined by their initial conditions, with no random elements involved. This behavior is known as deterministic chaos, or simply chaos.

Chaotic behavior is also observed in natural systems, such as the weather. This may be explained by a chaos-theoretical analysis of a mathematical model of such a system, embodying the laws of physics that are relevant for the natural system.


I traded in my science books for Theology/Philosophy books, and Wikipedia seems to suffice.


-- Posted by Killtyronedead at 6:32 pm on Oct. 3, 2008

Quote: from fenrir at 9:30 pm on Oct. 3, 2008



In Mathematics, chaos theory describes the behavior of certain dynamical systems - that is, systems whose state evolves with time - that may exhibit dynamics that are highly sensitive to initial conditions (popularly referred to as the butterfly effect). As a result of this sensitivity, which manifests itself as an exponential growth of perturbations in the initial conditions, the behavior of chaotic systems appears to be random. This happens even though these systems are deterministic, meaning that their future dynamics are fully defined by their initial conditions, with no random elements involved. This behavior is known as deterministic chaos, or simply chaos.

Chaotic behavior is also observed in natural systems, such as the weather. This may be explained by a chaos-theoretical analysis of a mathematical model of such a system, embodying the laws of physics that are relevant for the natural system.


I traded in my science books for Theology/Philosophy books, and Wikipedia seems to suffice.


I think he wanted a non-Wiki explanation because he couldn't understand the Wiki explanation.


-- Posted by fenrir at 6:54 pm on Oct. 3, 2008

Quote: from Killtyronedead at 8:32 pm on Oct. 3, 2008


Quote: from fenrir at 9:30 pm on Oct. 3, 2008


In Mathematics, chaos theory describes the behavior of certain dynamical systems - that is, systems whose state evolves with time - that may exhibit dynamics that are highly sensitive to initial conditions (popularly referred to as the butterfly effect). As a result of this sensitivity, which manifests itself as an exponential growth of perturbations in the initial conditions, the behavior of chaotic systems appears to be random. This happens even though these systems are deterministic, meaning that their future dynamics are fully defined by their initial conditions, with no random elements involved. This behavior is known as deterministic chaos, or simply chaos.  

 Chaotic behavior is also observed in natural systems, such as the weather. This may be explained by a chaos-theoretical analysis of a mathematical model of such a system, embodying the laws of physics that are relevant for the natural system.


I traded in my science books for Theology/Philosophy books, and Wikipedia seems to suffice.


I think he wanted a non-Wiki explanation because he couldn't understand the Wiki explanation.

And obviously me being facetious hasn't struck you as blatantly obvious?  Why don't you and I have another IM debate over another topic you're knowingly ignorant over?


-- Posted by Crazy snake at 5:25 am on Oct. 4, 2008

Quote: from Killtyronedead at 2:32 am on Oct. 4, 2008


Quote: from fenrir at 9:30 pm on Oct. 3, 2008


In Mathematics, chaos theory describes the behavior of certain dynamical systems - that is, systems whose state evolves with time - that may exhibit dynamics that are highly sensitive to initial conditions (popularly referred to as the butterfly effect). As a result of this sensitivity, which manifests itself as an exponential growth of perturbations in the initial conditions, the behavior of chaotic systems appears to be random. This happens even though these systems are deterministic, meaning that their future dynamics are fully defined by their initial conditions, with no random elements involved. This behavior is known as deterministic chaos, or simply chaos.  

 Chaotic behavior is also observed in natural systems, such as the weather. This may be explained by a chaos-theoretical analysis of a mathematical model of such a system, embodying the laws of physics that are relevant for the natural system.


I traded in my science books for Theology/Philosophy books, and Wikipedia seems to suffice.


I think he wanted a non-Wiki explanation because he couldn't understand the Wiki explanation.

Actualy, I can understand wikipedia explanations  . I just hate people quoting wiki, cause they usually leave in all the numbers and brackets. But thanks anyway, now I get it


-- Posted by medjai at 3:30 pm on Oct. 4, 2008

Ok it's simple.

Imagine you're a physics professor, you don't know it, but today you're randomly going to have a moment of eureka and get on course to solving the compatibility problem with relativity and quantum.

You're lecturing your class, and a really hot young student drops her pencil and bends down to get it all innocent but provocative like, and you fucking pop a boner right there in front of everyone.

You run out of class and are so humiliated you don't come up with that compatibility theory for relativity and quantum, all because a girl picked up her pencil.

Hot girls change the world.


-- Posted by fenrir at 11:30 pm on Oct. 4, 2008

Quote: from medjai at 5:30 pm on Oct. 4, 2008


Ok it's simple.

Imagine you're a physics professor, you don't know it, but today you're randomly going to have a moment of eureka and get on course to solving the compatibility problem with relativity and quantum.

You're lecturing your class, and a really hot young student drops her pencil and bends down to get it all innocent but provocative like, and you fucking pop a boner right there in front of everyone.

You run out of class and are so humiliated you don't come up with that compatibility theory for relativity and quantum, all because a girl picked up her pencil.

Hot girls change the world.


Which you've also explained how one person's choice to maintain physical attractiveness causes typical reactions from others in a form of attraction (i.e. straight males and bi/gay women), but how exactly does having a boner mean anything beyond a simply causal link of attraction?  I highly doubt we'd compare choice-consequence carelessly whenever going beyond primal desires of lustful intentions.


-- Posted by Crazy snake at 5:41 am on Oct. 5, 2008

Quote: from fenrir at 7:30 am on Oct. 5, 2008


Quote: from medjai at 5:30 pm on Oct. 4, 2008

Ok it's simple.  

 Imagine you're a physics professor, you don't know it, but today you're randomly going to have a moment of eureka and get on course to solving the compatibility problem with relativity and quantum.  

 You're lecturing your class, and a really hot young student drops her pencil and bends down to get it all innocent but provocative like, and you fucking pop a boner right there in front of everyone.  

 You run out of class and are so humiliated you don't come up with that compatibility theory for relativity and quantum, all because a girl picked up her pencil.  

 Hot girls change the world.


Which you've also explained how one person's choice to maintain physical attractiveness causes typical reactions from others in a form of attraction (i.e. straight males and bi/gay women), but how exactly does having a boner mean anything beyond a simply causal link of attraction? I highly doubt we'd compare choice-consequence carelessly whenever going beyond primal desires of lustful intentions.

Hahaha, that made me laugh.  


-- Posted by schoon at 12:57 pm on Oct. 6, 2008

and why did you put intellectuals in ( )? It's in the intellectual forum


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