Pages: 1 2  Next -- Posted by PureBlackNight at 3:59 am on Oct. 20, 2008 timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4969312.ece In The United Kingdom... You Are Going To have A Passport In Order To Get A Cell Phone! -- Posted by Spirit of Desire at 4:01 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Fine, I have a passport. No problem. -- Posted by italianfire at 4:02 am on Oct. 20, 2008 oooo man... i lost mine :( -- Posted by Pax Anarchia at 4:09 am on Oct. 20, 2008 LOL, stupid UK -- Posted by SAMMYJS99 at 4:11 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from PureBlackNight at 6:59 am on Oct. 20, 2008 timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4969312.ece In The United Kingdom... You Are Going To have A Passport In Order To Get A Cell Phone! can some1 spell "communism". -- Posted by SpM at 4:11 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Spirit of Desire at 12:01 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Fine, I have a passport. No problem. You don't think totalitarianism is just a wee bit troubling? -- Posted by SpM at 4:11 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from SAMMYJS99 at 12:11 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 can some1 spell "communism". What the fuck are you talking about? -- Posted by allsmiles at 4:12 am on Oct. 20, 2008 I'm glad everyone else is starting to be registered for stupid shit. It's getting kinda lonely on the PSOR. -- Posted by Dannay at 4:22 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Sorry but who hasn't got one.. oh the reason is cos it's something to do with terrorism that's fine with me. -- Posted by SpM at 4:25 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Dannay at 12:22 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Sorry but who hasn't got one.. oh the reason is cos it's something to do with terrorism that's fine with me. ...? -- Posted by ThisVampireHeart at 4:33 am on Oct. 20, 2008 problem? saves for identity fraud i guess -- Posted by chargrilledwoppa at 4:38 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from ThisVampireHeart at 4:33 am on Oct. 20, 2008 problem? saves for identity fraud i guess massive problem. hackers, government may turn bad, problems of data loss, basic civil and political rights... :S -- Posted by Wakeupcall at 4:58 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Doesn't bother me. I have a passport. -- Posted by Acid World at 5:00 am on Oct. 20, 2008 So they're going to log all of the information of their citizens into a giant surveillence database and track/survey phone-calls of people buying pay as you go phones (as well as probably anybody who speaks key words like "bomb")? You guys are all cry babies. Deal with it, V will come and save you. -- Posted by SpM at 5:01 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 12:58 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Doesn't bother me. I have a passport. I hope you're the first one to die in the government sponsored death camps. Or perhaps the last one to die. Whichever is a worse fate. -- Posted by Acid World at 5:01 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 4:58 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Doesn't bother me. I have a passport. Yeah but it's the principle of what they want to do. They are doing it so that they can get more information on their citizens which they are going to put into a surveillance database. They are then going to monitor who buys pay as you go phones and possibly wire-tap them to make sure they aren't terrorists. -- Posted by Wakeupcall at 5:02 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Acid World at 5:01 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 4:58 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Doesn't bother me. I have a passport. Yeah but it's the principle of what they want to do. They are doing it so that they can get more information on their citizens which they are going to put into a surveillance database. They are then going to monitor who buys pay as you go phones and possibly wire-tap them to make sure they aren't terrorists. Again. Unless I suddenly have the urge to become a terrorist, I'm not bothered. -- Posted by Wakeupcall at 5:04 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from SpM at 5:01 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 12:58 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Doesn't bother me. I have a passport. I hope you're the first one to die in the government sponsored death camps. Or perhaps the last one to die. Whichever is a worse fate. ...why? -- Posted by SpM at 5:05 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 1:04 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from SpM at 5:01 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 12:58 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Doesn't bother me. I have a passport.    I hope you're the first one to die in the government sponsored death camps.    Or perhaps the last one to die. Whichever is a worse fate. ...why? Because it's the small-minded apathy of cunts like yourself that is resulting in my civil liberties melting faster than the polar ice caps. -- Posted by TheatreMinelli at 5:05 am on Oct. 20, 2008 I don't know what you are all getting worked up about it's a pile of bullshit. It will never get through the legislature. The commons are tetchy about this kind of crap. -- Posted by Wakeupcall at 5:09 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from SpM at 5:05 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 1:04 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from SpM at 5:01 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 12:58 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Doesn't bother me. I have a passport.   I hope you're the first one to die in the government sponsored death camps.   Or perhaps the last one to die. Whichever is a worse fate.    ...why? Because it's the small-minded apathy of cunts like yourself that is resulting in my civil liberties melting faster than the polar ice caps. Unfortunately, because there are terrorists lurking about, and crimes happening otherwise, CCTV and a certain level of survelliance is needed. We actually have an extraordinary amount of liberties in this country. I know - if you think living in the west is that bad, fuck off. Go to a middle eastern country and try bitching about the government. Or a small part of Russia. Maybe Zimbabwe? You ungrateful, whining bastard. Unless you have plans to commit crime, you have nothing to worry about. -- Posted by Gemmax at 5:13 am on Oct. 20, 2008 go for it -- Posted by SpM at 5:14 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 1:09 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Unfortunately, because there are terrorists lurking about, and crimes happening otherwise, CCTV and a certain level of survelliance is needed. We actually have an extraordinary amount of liberties in this country. I know - if you think living in the west is that bad, fuck off. Go to a middle eastern country and try bitching about the government. Or a small part of Russia. Maybe Zimbabwe? You ungrateful, whining bastard. Unless you have plans to commit crime, you have nothing to worry about. You think I'm ungrateful because I actually give a shit about preserving the liberties we're lucky enough to have? I'm whiny because I don't live in abject fear of the statistically irrelevant possibility of getting blown up? Unless you have plans to live in a free society, you have nothing to worry about! Orwell save us. -- Posted by marshmellowman at 5:15 am on Oct. 20, 2008 It's just some news to mull over. Somehow I doubt this shit will fly in the House. Crazy stuff is always proposed, most of it doesn't get through. Come back and talk about it if it does ever pass. It already has lots of opposition anyway: "The proposals have sparked a fierce backlash inside Whitehall. Senior officials in the Home Office have privately warned that the database scheme is impractical, disproportionate and potentially unlawful. The revolt last week forced Jacqui Smith, the home secretary, to delay announcing plans for the database until next year." Stop overreacting people. -- Posted by SpM at 5:16 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from marshmellowman at 1:15 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Stop overreacting people. I, for one, am concerned about the LiveWirian response, not the proposal itself. -- Posted by Wakeupcall at 5:17 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from SpM at 5:14 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 1:09 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Unfortunately, because there are terrorists lurking about, and crimes happening otherwise, CCTV and a certain level of survelliance is needed. We actually have an extraordinary amount of liberties in this country.    I know - if you think living in the west is that bad, fuck off. Go to a middle eastern country and try bitching about the government. Or a small part of Russia. Maybe Zimbabwe?    You ungrateful, whining bastard.    Unless you have plans to commit crime, you have nothing to worry about. You think I'm ungrateful because I actually give a shit about preserving the liberties we're lucky enough to have? I'm whiny because I don't live in abject fear of the statistically irrelevant possibility of getting blown up? Unless you have plans to live in a free society, you have nothing to worry about! Orwell save us. Statistically irrelevant? 7/7 save us... Ok, let's have it your way. Let's get rid of this stupid 'ID' stuff. CCTV? No need for it! Police records? Get rid of it! Chaos ensues... -- Posted by marshmellowman at 5:18 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 1:09 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Unless you have plans to commit crime, you have nothing to worry about. That's the naive and completely idiotic comment that the uninformed say. It's not okay. Saying that I shouldn't be worried if i haven't done anything wrong, isn't the point. The point is they shouldn't be able to intrude on my personal privacy like that. I am guaranteed a right to a private life, and is should be kept that way. Centralised databases are also a massive point of weakness (in terms of security). Giving away your privacy has never been an option, and never will be. -- Posted by Wakeupcall at 5:20 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from marshmellowman at 5:18 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 1:09 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Unless you have plans to commit crime, you have nothing to worry about. That's the naive and completely idiotic comment that the uninformed say. It's not okay. Saying that I shouldn't be worried if i haven't done anything wrong, isn't the point. The point is they shouldn't be able to intrude on my personal privacy like that. I am guaranteed a right to a private life, and is should be kept that way. Centralised databases are also a massive point of weakness (in terms of security). Giving away your privacy has never been an option, and never will be. Intrude on your privacy like what? Asking you to prove that you are who you claim to be? -- Posted by marshmellowman at 5:20 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from SpM at 1:16 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 I, for one, am concerned about the LiveWirian response, not the proposal itself. So you're concerned about the response of the politically ignorant, naive and pre-pubescent children that probably don't even know how the house of commons and lords function at all? Great. All the response is showing that they need to be more versed in privacy rights and politics. -- Posted by SpM at 5:21 am on Oct. 20, 2008 Quote: from Wakeupcall at 1:17 pm on Oct. 20, 2008 Statistically irrelevant? 7/7 save us...   52 people died, out of a population of well over 50 million. Statistically irrelevant indeed. Ok, let's have it your way. Let's get rid of this stupid 'ID' stuff.   CCTV? No need for it! Police records? Get rid of it! Chaos ensues... Records for criminals? Great. Records for law abiding citizens? Fuck off. Pages: 1 2  Next